Talk:White House Iraq-War forgery allegations

WMD
This is all well and good but nobody KNEW that Saddam did not have WMD except Saddam. His own generals assumed that the "division next to them" had WMD. His scientists, destroying some of their cache, assumed Saddam had more caches elsewhere or other WMD. Israeli intelligence, British intelligence, etc. all agreed that he had WMD. Why? Because he wanted his "enemies" to think he did while assuming that he could handle the UN by destroying his cache (assuming he actually did BTW. No one really knows that either for sure. He apparently sent "stuff" off to Syria near the end of the actual war).

Pres. Clinton thought he had WMD. This issue is a non-starter. It is utter nonsense. The trouble with have "proof" to the contrary is no one believed the "proof!" Humint is the least reliable kind of intelligence and that is what you have here. Student7 (talk) 21:27, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

The article isn't about a link to WMD, it is about forging a connection with 9/11 to justify the war after the fact. That Humint got it wrong on WMD is one thing (for your reasons). But forging a connection to a disproven reason for war, let alone something that most people doubted the existence of in the first place (9/11 links), if it is true, would go down as a defining moment of when the Bush Administration went off the rails. Hiberniantears (talk) 13:05, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Merger
Just left this note at the Habbush letter page as well: I think we need to wait a little to see how/if Congress purues this. At the moment, that the letter exists, and that it was deemed a forgery is fact. However, that the White House ordered it to be forged, and pulled off a cover up to retroactively create a fact to justify the war in Iraq is currently an allegation (though one that is looking increasingly true). Should links between the White House and the creation of the letter be more clearly defined (through Congressional hearings probably) then I would say we should merge the two together. Hiberniantears (talk) 13:05, 8 August 2008 (UTC)