Talk:White Zinfandel

classification as a blush wine
This is an incorrect description for White Zinfandel. It is in fact a rose wine. A blush is a lighter variety of rose, White Zinfandel tends to be dark, nearing a red wine. This should be changed as well. As mentioned in the complete idiots guide to wine, among many other guides. 173.183.85.52 (talk) 07:21, 21 October 2010 (UTC)pr0pr0

Quotes around "varietal"
Seeing as varietal is the legitimate term here, should it really be put into "quotations"? No other words would sum up a White Zinfandel wine as accurately or as briefly, thus "quotations" would imply the opposite. The term varietal is the proper one to use in this instance, it shouldn't be implied to the average reader that it's a nickname or 'wine connoisseur lingo'. Simply put, any varietal wine should not have quotations around the term varietal. 173.183.85.52 (talk) 07:14, 21 October 2010 (UTC)pr0pr0

White?
Why is it called white, when it looks like a Rose 80.195.181.239 21:59, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Probably because the grape skins are removed from the wine early on in the manufacturing process. Usually, the red colour of red wines comes from the skins. I assume the Zinfandel grape without a skin still contains enough colour to cause a slight redness. Weyes 22:04, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Photo?
Does any one have a nice photo of White Zin (maybe in a glass)? I think that it could help make the page a little more interesting. The Bethling 17:25, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

This picture is no good.. Plastic cups...

Bluee Mountain (talk) 22:27, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I will produce and link to a photo of White Zinfandel wine in a bottle alongside a 3/4 full glass in the near future that I will authorize for use on this article.

173.183.85.52 (talk) 07:14, 21 October 2010 (UTC)pr0pr0

Importance
White Zin is not as important in the wine world as the vast volume of its consumtion suggests. Thus I am moving it to a lower importance. Dancingredshoes 04:26, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * As a Rose wine White Zinfandel is a very important wine and actually the sales levels of the wine does suggest it's importance. Point of view feelings in a wine connoisseur market should not delegate the importance of a wine.  If it was not for White Zinfandel, the industry would not be where it is today.  White Zinfandel has introduced many people to wine who would have not become wine drinkers otherwise and it is an important commercial commodity to the wineries that produce it.  The mere fact that Beringer, Sutter Home and other wineries have been able to produce other wines from the profits from this wine is significant.  Rose wines from the Zinfandel grape have been made in California since the 19th century as well as documented in Charles Sullivan's Zinfandel: A Story of a Grape and It's Wine.  I think this article should be restored to High Importance.--Christopher Tanner, CCC 04:07, 7 April 2007 (UTC)tanner-christopher
 * I originally assessed the article as being mid importance, and that's still my opinion. It's not overly important since it's essentially a popular style of blush.   It's clearly less important (even though more popular than) Zinfandel.  Though I notice that Zin is rated as being of Top importance, that's not saying much :-P
 * High seems a little too high to me. It's popular in the US, and it's an introduction to wine for millions of Americans, and so it's an important topic.   I just don't think that it is quite important enough to be more than mid.    If you disagree, I don't object that it being rated as high, since I feel that it's certainly more important than just low.   ---  The Bethling (Talk) 08:57, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I think you make a proper case for Mid, so that's where I'll put it.--Christopher Tanner, CCC 13:21, 7 April 2007 (UTC)tanner-christopher

Notable producers
This section, other than the Sutter Home note reads like advertising with non-cited tasting notes. Perhaps they should be more neutral in character and not advertising for the producers even though I am sure that wasn't the intention?--Christopher Tanner, CCC 13:10, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Cleanup and merge?
I've cleaned this up a bit - the origins of the grape are explained much better in the main Zin article. I'm still 60:40 in favour of merging this article with the main Zin article, where there's already quite a bit about White Zin, although I recognise its significance as an entity in its own right. FlagSteward (talk) 13:47, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I would be more partial to keeping the two separate. I think it has enough of its own identity to be distinguished and there is room for fleshing out this article. There is something to be said for the wine's "gateway" role in introducing new drinkers to wine as well notes about the backlash to the wine. Admittedly I'm not the most motivated of individuals to want to invest the time and research but I know there is sources there to expand upon those themes. AgneCheese/Wine 13:52, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

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The Photo
How are we exactly sure that photo is wine? I've never seen or heard of anybody ever drinking wine from a plastic cup with a straw. Gune (talk) 10:21, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I've seen it before-especially when they add ice cube to chill the wine. The photo's original author labeled it as White Zin and we have no reason to not extend good faith to what the author said. AgneCheese/Wine 16:17, 25 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Would you believe that wine is also sold in cans? It certainly is. Wine is consumed from plastic cups, through straws, and from cans.
 * Your question can apply to almost any photo in the Wikipedia wine project, especially photos of grapes. It looks like White Zinfandel to me. ~Amatulić (talk) 16:29, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Low Alcohol?
"Historically an inexpensive jug wine, White Zinfandel is a quaffing wine that is sweet, soft, and low in alcohol, making it a popular choice with those who would not otherwise drink wine." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.105.237.221 (talk) 04:24, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Franzia and Vendange, popular brands of White Zinfandel, are 11% ABV. Whispering Hills and Barefoot are 12.5% and 13%, respectively. Is that considered low alcohol for a wine? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.105.237.221 (talk) 04:21, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Possibly 13% is low in California :-). I modified the statement to often low in alcohol. Tomas e (talk) 14:30, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Heh, yeah Tomas is right. Under 13.5% is considered low alcohol here in the US under our tax code. We don't seem to have a concept of "moderate" alcohol :P AgneCheese/Wine 18:25, 30 January 2010 (UTC)