Talk:Whitefish, Montana/Archive 1

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Barek --

This article from the NY Times -- http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B0CE5DF1E38F937A25751C0A962958260&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss -- mentions his growing up in Whitefish, among other things. Here's the relevant paragraph:


 * When he was 13, living with his mother in Whitefish, Mont., Tommy Moe was caught smoking marijuana and kicked off his school's ski team. He was, he said, "experimenting, a normal kid trying to have a good time, making my father tear the hair from his head." Tom Moe, having divored and moved to Alaska to pursue his work, summoned his son to come live with him.

Dhc02 (talk) 02:10, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Issues involving race
Should any of these controversies be included on this page?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/08/us/girl-black-lives-matter-montana-agitator-trnd/index.html

This was a Black Lives Matter peaceful demonstration that was interrupted by a large and angry man, that got into the face of a young African American woman and screamed at her. It was covered in the media to include CNN. So it made national news.

The young woman said-- "In that moment, I felt those words that my father spoke to me from such a young age and I saw fear in his eyes and I knew he wasn't going to hurt me," Francine said. "He was just upset and uncomfortable, so I just stood my ground and it got captured in such a beautiful way." The man was arrested

Also https://flatheadbeacon.com/2021/03/23/whitefish-mountain-resort-employees-push-for-change-after-racist-encounter/

This is a case in which a young African American who said that during a conversation about equal representation, a co-worker — who was still in uniform at the time — turned to her and said, “Well, we have an (n-word) right here that works on the mountain, so what are you complaining about?” She reported the incident the following morning to her supervisors in the lift department and had subsequent conversations with resort management, including a meeting Despite her complaints, Rine said she initially felt unheard by management and thought the purpose of her meeting with Graves was “to help them shut (her) up.”

Other employees heard that comment and demanded the resort do something and they didn’t so there was a very large protest.

And this

https://www.npr.org/2018/01/23/579884628/victims-of-neo-nazi-troll-storm-find-difficulties-doing-something-about-it

In which a neo-nazi group threatened violence against Jewish people in the community. A prominent white supremacist who published a newspaper. The article says a person “was on the receiving end of harassing emails laced with racial slurs and frequent anti-semitic posts to her Facebook wall including memes with captions like "you should go jump in an oven" and "We're going to come to cremate you." Some of the "trollers" even named her 14-year-old son, and suggested her family should watch out.”

Things got ugly quickly. The resulting "troll storm" shed new light on an increasingly common – and unsettling – the tactic of far-right extremists that have gained more prominence since the 2016 election.

"At the core of Anglin's campaign was an old story of Jewish hatred," says Francine Roston, the rabbi of Glacier Jewish Community in Whitefish. Roston says the Daily Stormer promoted a false narrative that Jews were "taking over this white, pristine town" of Whitefish and driving the Whites out. Roston was on the receiving end of harassing emails laced with racial slurs and frequent anti-semitic posts to her Facebook wall including memes with captions like "you should go jump in an oven" and "We're going to come to cremate you." Some of the "trollers" even named her 14-year-old son and suggested her family should watch out. The supremacist even planned an armed neo-Nazi march through the snowy streets of Whitefish never happened. Instead, the town staged a large counter-rally denouncing the hate. But it never happened.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/05/richard-spencer-whitefish-neo-nazi-march

Is that something that should be included in an article like this or is it too controversial? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anastacio21 (talk • contribs) 19:54, 21 April 2021 (UTC) Anastacio21 (talk) 20:07, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

While I do not intend to gloss over anything important, I do not feel those belong on the Whitefish page unless they are defining characteristics of the town itself. With the level of information provided, if you feel that those events are specific enough to Whitefish and not just symptomatic of what is going on nationally, and really are a defining characteristic of Whitefish or something that someone would want to know about when researching Whitefish, then my suggestion would be to put them in a new page (maybe Racial Controversies in Whitefish) and link to that with a mention in the Whitefish Page.  DGrundler  talk 20:27, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Ok, that seems fair to me. It was truly a question, not a statement. There is a page on "Lost Coon Lake" that deals with a racial issue in the town of Whitefish and it's on its own page. I will look at doing that. Thank you. Anastacio21 (talk) 21:13, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Adding citations
Hello! I want to add citations to this page from historical books found in the Whitefish, Montana library. For a start: Stumptown to Ski Town by Betty Schafer and Mable Engelter; When You and I Were Young, Whitefish by Dorothy M. Johnson, and others that I can't remember right now. I've added one that I know is correct (the naming of Whitefish). I haven't thoroughly looked over the entire article, but citations appear to mainly be from articles written by the city itself, or promotional websites. As a long-time resident, I may have COI, and will strive to state only the facts in a neutral manner. Don't hesitate to contact me with questions or concerns. Drewpowersmt (talk) 03:23, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

Notable people
In the notable people section, it lists "John Corapi, charlatan". The linked article doesn't use the word "charlatan", and on a very quick skim I didn't find anything supporting the general idea of it either. Is this just someone editorializing? For what it's worth, I found my way to this article after reading about the town in the Washington Post. Some mention about Whitefish Energy Holdings might belong in the article as well. —Salton Finneger (talk) 20:31, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Sounds like vandalism. Found my way here after writing the Whitefish Energy article. Feel free to fix Corapi and add Whitefish. tedder (talk) 04:01, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I removed Corapi, but did not add anything regarding Whitefish Energy, having minimal knowledge on the topic. Several others on the notable people list do not have Whitefish mentioned anywhere in their linked articles, which isn't proof they don't have a Whitefish connection, but could leave one wondering why they are listed. The listed people who don't have Whitefish mentioned in their WP articles are Bob Brown, Steve Howe, Phil Jackson, Tim Kasher, and  John Morrison. —Salton Finneger (talk) 14:43, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

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Education
An edit was paid in the education section under Whitefish School District stating "They are a Class A school." It is unclear which school in the whitefish system this was referring to. What is a class a school? What is the source for this edit? I reverted the edit until this is clarified.  DGrundler  talk 14:23, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
 * My edits aren't paid. Class A refers to the size of the school for athletic competition. I've just added the mascot in order to get a link to the high school. --Tbennert (talk) 23:05, 19 April 2021 (UTC)


 * I meant to type "made" not "paid." Brain fart. Thanks for the clarification.  DGrundler  talk 20:26, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

Town legends
It is known by all people living in whitefish that there are many people famous for things they did while in whitefish. They aren’t world known celebrities but everyone in whitefish knows of them. 35.133.30.95 (talk) 03:51, 9 September 2022 (UTC)