Talk:Whoop That Trick

I have proposed to merge this article into the article for the film Hustle & Flow as the song only seems notable for its presence in that film. Kcordina 09:19, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Where does one even begin with this article??

I've cleaned it up. It's still not great--but it is now entirely factual and easier to read. :) --Katori22 19:49, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Whoever wrote that bit at the bottom did a good job. However I've moved the "stub" notice to below the last paragraph. --Katori22 20:42, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

How often does the article have to say that the song title is not directed towards women without explaining clearly how it is not? Should be merged with Hustle & Flow, definitely does not deserve seperate status. What does "used an interjection in celebration" mean? I don't understand that sentence. --217.153.176.154 14:59, 17 August 2006 (UTC) I edited the article but suggest a merge. --217.153.176.154 12:02, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Merging
I agree. It should be merged into Hustle & Flow, and put as a section in the Article. Or deleted entirely -- I don't see how it's so noteable at all. I mean, it's a good song and all, but it's just a song in the movie. There've been plenty of songs in movies that were good and probably don't have their own page on here, so =\ Mattfish 06:26, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

The comment that the lyrics are not tinged with misogyny is completely inaccurate. They may be less explicit than originally intended, but they remain misogynistic. In pointing this out, I am suggesting that the statement be removed and not amended, because it is too opinionated to be "factual." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.24.125.167 (talk) 00:45, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Tainted with misogyny?
This song, as the term "trick" is ambiguous, is not necessarily tinged with misogyny any more than any rap songs out these days. The title itself could refer to a pimp "whooping" his prostitute, or moreso, could refer to a male customer being "whooped" by a pimp and his gang.

Mainly, this song is part of an Academy Award-winning soundtrack, and that is what makes it notable for having its own Wikipedia page. Particularly, this soundtrack is unique in the sense that is the first and for now, the only, instance where a relatively average hiphop group has gotten any sort of recognition for their contribution to popular culture.

I realize that many people on Wikipedia may not understand, sympathize with, or enjoy this music, but it's a film! Hell, I am whiter than the background color I am writing on, but I am educated and cultured enough to recognize this song as being deserving of its own page. More importantly, this song's lyrics express what many rap songs express: the struggles that young black males deal with living in impoverished environments.

The "beats" are obviously very similar to other Three Six Mafia songs, but it's the lyrics that stand out. If that crusty, old group of mainly-white people at the Academy can recognize this soundtrack as award-winning, then I think us plebeians can do the same.

Perhaps it could be merged with the Hustle and Flow page, but it would need to be an addition that included every single part of the original Wikipedia entry. The fact that Terrence Howard is a new and talented actor (who has not acted in many "ghetto" roles), mixed with the fact that he sounded convincing in this track, is very powerful. It creates a very convincing environment in which "DJay" lives, and adds much to the film itself.

If this article is merged with the main Hustle and Flow page, then just don't change anything about it. I think we are all modern and intelligent and modest enough to realize that hiphop culture is not going anywhere, and it will remain a part of cultural theory, if not become even more influential.

Change this article? That would be a travesty.