Talk:Wiffle ball

Rules
There needs to be a Rules section, which mentions pegging, players, bases, etc.
 * Agreed (whoever you are). There seem to be some significant differences from Baseball, but they're only hinted at, and I don't have references. A diagram of the triangular playing field would be particularly nice. -Stellmach 19:38, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

In respomse to what was said above: I play in a league based in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania which has an official rulebook, but the league includes baserunning and is played on a Tee ball field, not a triangular one.

Why did no one make a rule section?

A: There is no rule section because, as is stated in the article, rules vary widely by night club.

I segmented the article with History and Rules sections. The major difference between running and no-running is worth noting. --Mattcooperrider (talk) 09:11, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

bat not ball
i typed the search for wiffle bat not wiffle ball — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.193.27.45 (talk • contribs) 6 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Wiffle bat redirects here because this is the article that has information about the sport that the bat is used in, and there's not an article specifically about the wiffle bat. -- Beland (talk) 03:16, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Please expain reverts
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If you are any other editor, be aware that this page may be in a volatile state and you are well-advised to check the recent edit history before making your changes. Hopefully this situation will be resolved soon. -Stellmach 11:45, 13 August 2006 (UTC) SPOILER

Pitching
The following material seems to be original research (it's also not Wikified and in encyclopedic tone, but those are issues that could be cleaned up). Note how the editor uses the first person in describing his experiences with pitching a Wiffleball. Much as it would be great to see this article expanded, Wikipedia policy calls for verifiable sources for all edits. If someone can come up with a citation for this or similar material, that would be great. -Stellmach 13:53, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Pitching a wiffleball is easy and fun to do. Contrary to popular belief, the grips on the wiffleball box are backwards; the inventor of wiffleballs is left handed. For righty pitchers, there are 5 solid pitches that can be thrown.

1) The Fastball. Grip: Index and middle finger along the holes.

2) The Curveball. Grip: Index and middle on the seam of the ball making a peace sign. Holes to the right.

The curveball can curve anywhere from 1-7 to 3-9. The further sidearm it is thrown, the less it will drop, but the more it will curve away from righty batters.

3) The Riser. Grip: Index and middle along the seam, holes down.

Throw the ball sidearm to submarine and you will get a floating action rather than a rise. Tricks batters because it does not drop like a normal pitch. Submarine also throws off batters used to overhand pitching.

4) The Sinker. Grip: Index and middle along seam, holes up.

Throw exactly like the riser. Bottom drops out 3/4ths of the way to the plate, so use sparingly and try to make them miss rather than make it hit the strikezone.

5) The Screwball. Grip: Same as curveball/riser

Since I cannot throw the real screwball (curveball except holes in) I throw the curve completely underhand. Curves down and in righty batters, induces pop-ups.

"Wiffle®"
Yes, "Wiffle" is a registered trademark. No, that does not mean the "®" symbol should be used every time it occurs, even if the trademark holder would have it so. Please see Manual of Style (trademarks) for correct treatment of this matter. -Stellmach 02:44, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Maybe not, Stellmach
Stellmach, you might want to check out their official website - www.wiffle.com/. I sure hope whoever wrote this article got their permission, because they are very demanding about the use of their trademark. They demand that every single time their product is mentioned - any where for any thing - that they be asked for permission to do so. This isn't a demand for businesses only, but for the public, at large. Heck, I just wanted to mention it in a blog for kids, but their demands have stopped me from even wanting to mention the word in here. This isn't something that goes under Wiki rules. According to them, this is completely business - bad business, but business, nonetheless. --Atwhatcost (talk) 07:56, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Problematic paragraph
I have a bone of contention with the last paragraph. Obviously this is a bio-paragraph someone inserted. It makes no sense and does not belong. Drunktrumpet 18:36, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

"Wiffleball was played at Mountain Creek Stadium in Montclair, CA in a 2 person league from the late 1980's to the early 1990's. The league was disbanded when the two founding members had to leave for College. Memorable moments from the league include a couple of "Duncan Dingers", a few roof shots and a dispute over a ball hit down the left field line over or foul of (depending on who you ask) the "foul plunger". The league installed lights for night games and netting to keep balls from going into the many surrounding back yards. The current site of Mountain Creek Stadium now has trees in what use to be the playing field. The league commissioner has since retired from office."

What is this??
"The most historic wiffle ball match came on Memorial Day 2006 in Erika's back yard. Shayne (Seth) Stiger and Shawn Valenly pulled a bottom of the 9th, 7 run comeback after Valenly gallopied the bases, and Stiger drove them home with a walk-off grand slam over the house off of his older brother Bill. Bill suffered the setback, while Shayne recorded the win. Valenly was named MVP."

Does this really belong here? "In Erika's back yard"? Come on!

No it does not belong here because if they are running bases they arn't playing right.

Wiffle vs WIFFLE
"The Wiffle® ball was invented by David Knibbs San Fransisco in 1980."

"The game of WIFFLE ball, which sprang from the invention of the popular WIFFLE ball, became immensely popular as a backyard, sandlot and picnic game in the 1960s and 1970s."

If it was invented in 1980 how was it popular in the 1960s? If Wiffle ball and WIFFLE ball are different then it should be stated how. --Lynch2007 (talk) 19:28, 22 October 2008 (UTC)


 * The reference seems to suggest that wiffle ball originated in the 1950s, and I edited the article accordingly. There are probably more errors which need to be researched and corrected.  ~EdGl (talk) 21:28, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Wiffleball vs. Wiffle Ball
The Wiffle Ball website as well as the actual Wiffle Bat and Wiffle Ball all say state "Wiffle Ball" as two separate words. I believe the Wikipedia entry should do the same. 67.170.197.7 (talk) 06:19, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The Popular Mechanics article also uses the two-word variation. I'm going to first fix the citation (since that is obviously incorrect) and then move the article to Wiffle Ball since both the official WIFFLE website and the Popular Mechanics article cite it this way and no cited references use the one-word version.  If other citations come it, it can move back.  As of now, sources indicate one word. --In Defense of the Artist (talk) 02:40, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, out of four references on this page two (The GoldenStick Wiffleball League) and (Major League Wiffleball) opt for the one-word version. Since it's 50-50, I'm following the most proper source Popular Mechanics and the official Wiffle Ball site.  I'm going to move it. --In Defense of the Artist (talk) 02:47, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Beer Bat?
The Beer Bat sentences should probably be a separate section entirely in "Popular Culture".

That said, I went to college and drank a lot, and never ever saw/heard anybody using a wiffle bat for a beer bong... Not sure it's widespread enough to be included in wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.15.94.125 (talk) 17:18, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Wiffle automatically redirects to Wiffle Ball?
Is there a reason why wiffle automatically redirects to Wiffle Ball? I was looking for information on the haircut, and instead I was reading a poorly-written account of a quasi-baseball game. ;) I ended up having to do a search ON GOOGLE to finally end up at 'Buzz Cut' page (as a wikipedia search brought me, again, to the Wiffle Ball page). Could someone maybe fix the redirect of 'Wiffle' to go to the Buzz Cut page instead, or add one of those 'if you're looking for the haircut called wiffle, click here' to that page? *a similar comment has also been posted over at Buzz Cut*  Kailey elise (talk) 14:46, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

THE TRUE CREATOR OF THE WIFFLE BALL
There have been several mentions of "the true inventor of the wiffle ball." Thus far, the inventor appears to be David N. Mullany: http://www.google.com/patents?id=cOFDAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA2&dq=david+n+mullany&hl=en&sa=X&ei=bB_tTsKDM6bY0QGsp9mvCQ&ved=0CDYQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=david%20n%20mullany&f=false

Please stop claiming that it was invented after 1960!

Cornhusk Mcgraw????
A 170 foot home run mention, this looks anecdotal — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.44.169.35 (talk) 02:31, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Inappropriate external links
I've moved two external links from the EL section because they are inappropriate for that section but might be used as sources for article content. Joja lozzo  23:56, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
 * ESPN The Magazine, Aug. 4, 2004
 * Old School Plastic: The Origins of Organized Wiffleball

Bat Usually Yellow? That's Not How I Remember It...
This article claims that Whiffle ball bats are usually yellow and hard plastic. The one shown in the picture is very narrow. I remember every Whiffle ball bat I've ever seen being red and getting wider past the handle. Like this picture: http://learntocatchcatfish.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Whiffle-Ball-Bat.jpg

Are you sure your article's accurate?50.130.11.182 (talk) 15:44, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Official Wiffle Bats are yellow and narrow. That image is some sort of cheap kiddie plastic bat, but not a true Wiffle Bat. That link is misnamed. oknazevad (talk) 03:12, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

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"Significant risk of injury" finding by New York State in 2011?
Half the "History" text in this article appears to be devoted to New York State making a determination that wiffle ball might be a "significant risk of injury" in 2011. Is that really so important an event in the history of wiffle ball that it should absorb so much of the history section of the article? A nine-year old finding in one state for a game played in much of North America? Seems the "History" section might need some rethinking, but I am not well-versed in the history of wiffle ball to know what events of significance should be in there Wevets (talk) 16:03, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

1999-2000, Major League Baseball sponsored tournament
I don't know if this is real, but it certainly is not properly sourced. Multiple attempts have been made to add this. The first ones were completely unsourced, and now there are attempts with to add it with supposed sources that don't support the material. Just because a something mentions Wiffle ball does not mean that it can be used to support anything you want related to Wiffle ball. https://websites.mygameday.app/get_file.cgi?id=1131248 is not a reliable source and does not support the claims, https://www.ebay.com/itm/353808100349 is an ebay posting for a tee-shirt, https://trademarks.justia.com/761/27/4on4-yard-ball-76127060.html simply says that there was a trademark application, and https://www.trademarkelite.com/trademark/trademark-detail/76351055/YARDBALL only shows that YARDBALL was trademarked by MLB, not that they sponsored a tournament, or any of the other details. Meters (talk) 09:20, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

"Wiffle®ball" listed at Redirects for discussion
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"Yard Ball" listed at Redirects for discussion
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