Talk:Wii/Archive 2

Games and Stuff
Basically, I'm saying to add Animal Crossing, Donkey Kong and Pilotwings, all of which have been confirmed. -- A Link to the Past 10:30, July 14, 2005 (UTC)


 * Could you throw me a source that has a statement/pressrelease from Nintendo stating this fact? Havok 12:17, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Nah man, too damn tired. But seriously, for one, AC WAS announced at the same time as Mario, from a guy named EAD Ninja. He may be a Gaming-Age forum member, but he has connections; he knew about Donkey Konga, Pikmin 2 and Fire Emblem long before anyone official knew anything about it. As for Donkey Kong, I can't remember, but I think I saw it announced in EGM. It may be on IGN as well. And as for Pilotwings, that news article is probably years old; Pilotwings 3, as I recall, other than Super Mario 128 being rumored to be on the NR, is the first game announced for the system. If you don't want to put any of these games on the list, then put it under rumors. -- A Link to the Past 16:40, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, I recall hearing about Animal Crossing and Donky Kong somewhere, so I'll personaly leave it alone. But its best not to add content as confirmed if you are unable to find or refrence evidence. Regardless if its lack of sleep or whatever. --Ritz 19:08, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry to say, this is not a website for rumors and speculation. Fact only please. So don't put anything as confirmed before Nintendo says it is confirmed. And nothing is confirmed before a release date has been given. Havok 21:51, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
 * That's not really your decision to make. Are you saying that Iwata saying "I'm gonna be able to play Super Smash Bros. with Reggie from halfway across the world" =/= a confirmation? I'll go with, oh, say...


 * GameRankings - Lists most of the games
 * GameFAQs - Confirms Smash Bros. Revolution, Metroid Prime 3 and Final Fantasy CC Revolution
 * IGN - Says that FAMITSU WEEKLY confirmed Donkey Kong, lists a Donkey Kong Revolution page, Metroid Prime 3 page, Mario Revolution page, Zelda Revolution page, and an Animal Crossing page (with an article where the CREATOR of Animal Crossing CONFIRMED that it was coming)
 * GameSpot - Lists most of the games

Now, where's your argument?

PS: Sorry for the aggression. But PLEASE, do some research before you decide to be bold like this. -- A Link to the Past 22:02, July 14, 2005 (UTC)


 * Iwata-San said he would like to see Super Smash Bros. as a launch title. All he said at E3 was that they are working on the games (Metroid Prime 3, Zelda, Mario etc.), Nothing concret. You should really learn to read the discussions posted on this page before you start attacking me. We've actually been trough this discussion about a month ago. And we - the people who edit this page - found "Confirmed titles" to be a stretched. And having something written as "Zelda Revolution" or "Mario Revolution" is extremly silly. It would be better to mark these titles under "Rumors", seeing as this is all they are for the time being. Of course Nintendo will make a Mario game for the Revolution, but it has yet to be officially confirmed. Havok 01:07, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Let's look at some of the facts.


 * June 6, 2005 - The latest issue of Famitsu Magazine reports that Nintendo is in development with a Revolution-bound sequel to the Donkey Kong franchise. The publication offers no details on the next-generation title. Donkey Kong confirmed.


 * IGNcube: You are a producer on Metroid Prime 3 for Revolution. Can you tell us about the game?

Shigeru Miyamoto: I've been working on the Metroid series with Mr. Tanabe. He's pretty much in charge of where that's going right now. I've been really trying to focus more on the Zelda, Mario and new DS titles, and I'm not really in a position to talk about them right now. Metroid Prime 3 confirmed.


 * Fans of Super Smash Bros. Melee are in for a doubly sweet treat. Iwata said that Nintendo is hard at work on a Super Smash Bros. sequel that will debut for the launch of Revolution. The system is scheduled to ship in mid-2006, according to reports. Better yet, this new Revolution Smash Bros. will take advantage of the console's Wi-Fi capabilities for online play out of the box. Super Smash Bros. confirmed.


 * May 19, 2005 - Nintendo is planning to take its popular life simulator franchise, Animal Crossing, to its next-generation console. In an interview with IGN today, Animal Crossing DS's producer hinted that a future Revolution version is a possibility. He later confirmed the news. Animal Crossing confirmed.


 * May 18, 2005 - Square Enix Co., Ltd. (Tokyo, Japan, "Square Enix") a leading developer and publisher of interactive entertainment software including two of the world's most popular franchises FINAL FANTASY(R) and DRAGON QUEST(TM), today announced plans for the FINAL FANTASY Crystal Chronicles series to be developed for the Revolution, Nintendo's next-generation console currently in development. Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles confirmed.


 * May 17, 2005 - Nintendo president Satoru Iwata on Tuesday morning confirmed news that is sure to make fans of the company everywhere say, "Duh!" Taking the stage at the company's pre-E3 2005 show in Los Angeles, Iwata waxed on about Nintendo's forthcoming Revolution console, and vaguely revealed a few key titles in development for the system.

Iwata said that Nintendo bring next-generation iterations of its lucrative Mario and Zelda franchises to Revolution. "Big franchises will of course be there [on Revolution]," Iwata said, adding, "including new versions of Mario and Zelda." Zelda and Mario confirmed.

We have adequate sources to show that all of these games are in development, but not because of common sense; because it's been said. -- A Link to the Past 01:42, July 15, 2005 (UTC)


 * Personally, I feel it's far too early to say any of the above are confirmed regardless of what other media sources are saying and even regardless of comments by Nintendo personnel. Until I see a press release, footage, or screenshots I'd rather put the entire section under rumors and speculation. Otherwise you're just reaching. Any of the above could be cancelled and none of the above are absolutely 100% concrete. K1Bond007 01:36, July 15, 2005 (UTC)
 * http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=48799 There's another link, from a refutable source (EAD Ninja - I can give you a guarantee that this guy has connections; IGN confirmed Fire Emblem a year and a half after this guy). Anyhow, just because they have the possibility of being cancelled or haven't showed us what it looks like doesn't mean they didn't confirm the games. Any unreleased game has the possibility of being cancelled, so that argument doesn't really hold weight. We consider a game confirmed when its development is confirmed. We either listen to the heavyweights in the gaming media all of the time or none of the time. -- A Link to the Past 01:42, July 15, 2005 (UTC)


 * I really doubt that "EAD Ninja" has the authority to "announce" anything on behalf of Nintendo. So as K1Bond007 said it's rumors, it's speculation. Havok 01:48, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Except for Fire Emblem, of course...

Jeuxfrance also confirms that list, and they got the information from ngcfrance.

And what you're telling me is that basically, when the creator of a series tells a prolific video game source that the game is in development for a specific console, it's not true? -- A Link to the Past 01:50, July 15, 2005 (UTC)


 * Nothing is official when it comes to games before the company as a whole make a statement about it. And I'm not talking about "We are going to make this game", but something we all call a press release. Also, keep in mind that this is not a news website. This article is about stating fact, not doing journalisme. If that's something you want to do, please use Wikinews.org. We are not trying to be assholes, but we want the article to be as correct as possible. Havok 01:57, 15 July 2005 (UTC)


 * But they haven't been confirmed. Nintendo hasn't officially announced anything. They haven't even technically announced the final system, it's name, or the controller. They are the source we should be concerned about, not IGN or GameSpot or even a forum with someone supposedly in the know. In the end they all may be right, but until Nintendo says otherwise, it is -not- confirmed. Keep the section, back up the information there by all means - I don't have a problem with that, just leave it under rumors and speculation until concrete information on these games are released. K1Bond007 02:00, July 15, 2005 (UTC)
 * To support or establish the certainty or validity of; verify. Official definition of confirm. They said that it will come. I don't list every popular game they made, because it was nothing specific. But they specifically stated that Mario and Zelda WERE COMING. Metroid Prime 3 IS IN DEVELOPMENT, IGN said it was and so did Miyamoto. I don't know about you, but the act of confirming should involve nothing more than saying that it's confirmed.

And yes, it confirmed. It's not speculation when the game has been confirmed by its creator. And much of them have been. So you're either assuming IGN is lying, or the creator is lying. Neither have a reason to lie. -- A Link to the Past 02:06, July 15, 2005 (UTC)


 * Are you even reading what we are telling you? We have never said that the games are not in development, because Nintendo would be stupid not to give out Zelda or Mario for the Revolution. But As K1Bond and myself have both stated, Nintendo has not said anything official. Until Nintendo says it's coming it's a rumor. If you can keep the games under "Rumors and speculation" it's all good. Havok 02:14, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Okay, fine, here's confirmation.


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Now, will you leave the section alone? You have three options: Leave it alone, claim that Iwata, AC's creator, Miyamoto, Square Enix are lying, or that IGN is lying. -- A Link to the Past 02:18, July 15, 2005 (UTC)


 * I stil don't think you get what I'm saying dude. I have never said that these games are not in development, or that they will never come out, or that anyone is lying. I'm saying that it's not "confirmed", Ex. the mario game which was titled "Mario 128" has reportedly by Miyamoto-San been "moved to the Revolution gaming console". So which Mario are you refeering to when you say "Untitled Mario game". This is the reason I don't like seeing anything in this article as confirmed before we have hard evidence that it's confirmed 100%. So again, I'm not calling anyone a lier. Just keep to facts. Thank you Havok 02:24, 15 July 2005 (UTC)


 * Ugh -- Please read this. Where the section is at now is fine, but I would like to see the ones specifically under "Games" cited by a reputable source - FROM SOMEONE THAT WORKS FOR NINTENDO, not some stupid unnamed "insider" or IGN or whatever - otherwise move them to rumored games. Those should also be cited so that the section doesn't get out of control with bogus rumors and speculation. This should be a fair compromise. I really don't see how anyone can be against this. This is an encyclopedia afterall and these should be cited by a reputable source, regardless. K1Bond007 02:26, July 15, 2005 (UTC)
 * ...What? You basically just implied that the only reputable source are the developers themselves. They cite the word of the developers, and they have no reason to lie. Now leave it alone; there's no reason to believe that IGN is making this up. Havok, you'll believe them on FFCC, MP3 and AC, but not SSBR, Mario, Zelda or DK, which all cite the developers themselves confirming it? -- A Link to the Past 02:37, July 15, 2005 (UTC)

How's this: games that have been confirmed to be in development are in the top column. They all have sources stating that they are being developed - but they're still tentative, and it's possible that they may change significantly before release. Pure rumors are in the bottom column. Andre ( talk ) 02:38, July 15, 2005 (UTC)
 * Much more reasonable than saying it's not confirmed. Although, I'm on the fence with WarioWare and Golden Sun, because the two are confirmed by NGCFrance, and while they're not as notable as IGN, they are somewhat notable. While I'm not saying to list them as confirmed, I'm saying that they're not really pure rumors. -- A Link to the Past 02:46, July 15, 2005 (UTC)

That was a lot of fun to watch <_<. Yay for edit wars? Anyway, I think the final outcome - pre personal edits are ok. I made some changes to make the article a little more formal, added a game now under development for Revolution by Blitz Games and made it its own section. I think the overall comprise is fair. Of course, feel free to edit or improve the changes I have made as well. --Ritz 03:41, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
 * I really wish that you wouldn't delete games from the list without bringing it up. You could well assume that it would be responded to on the Talk page with a source. -- A Link to the Past 09:10, July 19, 2005 (UTC)

When you add a game, add a source as well. If not, the game will be moved to rumors. Again we thrive on fact, not speculation (other then in the rumor section). Havok 09:40, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

I know im 15 days late to this discussion but here goes. Link, you have a very good arguement and i understand some of the games that you say are confirmed since more than likely they are. sadly however when u posted this -Shigeru Miyamoto: I've been working on the Metroid series with Mr. Tanabe. He's pretty much in charge of where that's going right now. I've been really trying to focus more on the Zelda, Mario and new DS titles, and I'm not really in a position to talk about them right now. Metroid Prime 3 confirmed.- This was not in any manner a comfirmation in any way shape or form. To be honest the gentleman could have been talking about a metroid game for any of the 4 consoles nintendo is working on right now so narrowing it down to MP3 when neither MP3 nor Revolution was mentioned is a bit of a stretch. That said i do believe that Crystal Chronicles was announced by SE themselves, which should definately be confirmation enough regardless of what people say, i would add that magazines and media outlets are generally wrong a lot and in that repect i would agree with k1 and havok since they have a good point. Media outlet confirmations are still fancified rumors no matter how much u want them to be true, however when a developer announces you cant really argue with them unless something smells fishy. my 2 cents, 2 weeks late. -Tik
 * There is a video of Metroid Prime 3 on the Revolution, specifically called Metroid Prime 3. -- A Link to the Past 21:52, July 30, 2005 (UTC)
 * Wasn't that video shown to be running on Nintendo GameCube hardware, not Revolution hardware? --VederJuda 00:43, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Modified Nintendo GameCube hardware used alongside the Revolution. -- A Link to the Past 00:50, July 31, 2005 (UTC)

But modified cube hardware is not the same as revolution hardware, granted that N stated that the next console would only be i think it was double, the power of cube so they are not shooting for the all powerful consoles like microsoft or sony, but modified Nintendo GameCube software doesnt yet qualify.EDIT: hey link y dont we just wait till the Spaceworld event that N hosts and then post the announced games instead of debating them here, which would save a LOT of space -Tik
 * Yes it does. It was intended to show how Metroid Prime 3 may look like. -- A Link to the Past 13:41, July 31, 2005 (UTC)

Hmm, well u could be right, still we dont need to add it just yet since the unveiling will be very soon, rumors of march 2006 release are around but even if not then we should hear something soon, otherwise nintendo will be killing there advertising hype timeframe. Lets post when we get something solid-Tik
 * We HAVE something solid. It's on the Revolution. -- A Link to the Past 01:27, August 1, 2005 (UTC)
 * Considering that specifications of the the Revolution hardware have not even been revealed, we can not assume the hardware that video is running on is the same as what Revolution will have inside it's box when its finnaly released on the market. The video basicly shows off that the graphics are at least up to par with Nintendo GameCube, as there was some fear from some people that it's capabilities might in fact be inferior to the current generation. --Ritz 21:58, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Edit: I just re-read the discussion. Yes, your right, definatly appears to be for Revolution. But who knows, considering how slow games will be for the Cube this upcoming year, there is a slight chance they could make a third one for the Cube, kinda like a last hurrah type of thing. --Ritz 22:13, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

Soka... Pokemon is MIA and and other titles like Baten Kaitos and Metal Arms: Glitch in the system have not been confirmed?! &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.101.116.234 (talk • contribs).

About the Future tag
Any chance we can get a custom template for those those pages? I agree with the purpose of the tag, but its diction doesnt quite match the context. Anyway we can customise the text to refrence something about "future products" rather than "future events"? --Ritz 17:06, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Perhaps a different template, this is already noted at Template talk:Future. K1Bond007 18:22, July 18, 2005 (UTC)
 * I created Template:Future product for this. ~ Dread Lord C y b e r S k u l l ✎☠ 19:20, 2005 July 18 (UTC)

Visual distortion
Can someone explain to me what this means: an innovative interface utilizing an internally developed proprietary visual distortion method to be applied to all of the games compatible with the Nintendo Revolution, including, NES, SNES, N64, Nintendo GameCube and Revolution titles Andre ( talk ) 18:47, July 30, 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes, someone please offer a source for the information. Revert back if you wish when a source has been included, but I am going to modify the paragraph until then. --Ritz 13:30, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
 * I personally think that we may see some 3D glasses stuff, which could make sense with this distortion talk. If you have ever
 * seen a movie in 3D designed for 3D glasses, _without_ wearing the glasses, that could count as distortion. Stereoscopic vision.
 * Again, this is not confirmed info, just a personal hunch. Omega21 06:22, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Maybe it means it will apply some sort of automatic graphical enhancer, such as the ones often found in emulators --Wulf 05:54, 21 September 2005 (UTC) Maybe it means it will apply some sort of automatic graphical enhancer, such as the ones often found in emulators --Wulf 05:54, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
 * The phrasing is merely a condiluted way of saying a visual effect. This seems likely, as Nintendo is rather prone to innovation and there have been NO radically new visual effects recently.  One is hardpressed to compare graphics cards and GPU's, since they are not simply based off of polygon counts, bump-mapping efficiency, and general number statistics.  Some GPU's can generate different visual effects than others, not necessarily based off of the sheer power of the unit.  I'm interested in seeing what well-kept secret this is.  Nintendo seems to be a tad annoyed about having been copied SO many times with all of their innovations.  This is quite possibly the first time that Nintendo has been aggravated and we can expect great things from it.  They are certainly taking many precautions with protecting the controller and this "visual distortion method", I'd like to see what else they're hiding.Alex 20:15, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

While the page is being protected
I noticed an error just a few lines below line 101. It says "During E³ 2008, Nintendo's Chief Marketing Officer Reginald Fils-Aime stated "[Nintendo] announced the ability to download and play..." when the year should be 2005. If an admin could make that change back, that would be great! --Ritz 19:42, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks Andrevan :) --Ritz 21:52, 29 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Once this is out of protection mode, I would like to add some rumors from this page. http://www.nintendoparamount.blogspot.com/ Some of them are pretty interesting. Especially if the NURB thing turns out to be true. I would probably just add the NURB stuff, come to think of it. --Omega21
 * I don't think it'd be wise to put too much stock into that site, my man... Looks more like a bunch of wishful thinking than subtle info leaks. It's just too much. Garrett Albright 16:16, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Unfortunatly, blogs and other amature journals are really hard to prove legitimate. It is best to wait until the information is confirmed or presented by a more respected or well known site, in my oppinion. --Ritz 21:40, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I agree, but the NURB thing does tie into a rumor already present on the page about visual distortion. If both claims are legit, it would make sense. Im just saying maybe a few words could be added. --Omega21
 * On that note, what exactly is NURB? --Ritz 04:54, 3 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Dread Lord C y b e r S k u l l ✎☠ suggested NURBS, which seems probable, and I was almost ready to wikify, however, accourding to the rumor, Nintendo is developing the technology. Accourding to that article, that technology has been around forever. So... Omega21 or anyone else have any ideas? --Ritz 15:41, 3 September 2005 (UTC)
 * It's gotta be NURBS. If it were something truly new, I doubt Nintendo would have given it such a similar name. Anyway, giving the mysterious blogger the benefit of the doubt, he did say he was not a native English speaker, so dropping the S (and saying Nintendo is "developing" it) may just be something that was lost in his mental translation. (I still think the blogger's a phony, though.) Garrett Albright 16:55, 3 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes, probably a phony, but the idea is possible. If it is true, perhaps they meant Nintendo is heavily supporting the development. Perhaps someone could tweak the article? --Omega21 07:05, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

I'd like to add the following press releases from nintendo.com: Dread Lord C y b e r S k u l l ✎☠ 06:53, 2005 August 30 (UTC)

DVD Attachment
The part enabling DVD playback has been stressed by Iwata that it is an internal attachment, not a dongle as stated in the article. Should this be changed or is the definition of dongle more loose than I am treating it? &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by ShortCutMan (talk • contribs).


 * By the sounds of it, it's a bit of both. The basic software drivers for DVD playback will be on the Revolution, but the adapter will still be crucial, containing more software/hardware, unlike the xBox DVD remote, which added nothing to actual console.Smurrayinchester 14:07, 18 September 2005 (UTC)


 * It is almost certainly the mpeg hardware decoder chip. I Bet it is in card, pr 'pak' form, not dongle form. (Dongle's are ugly things that hang off the system and are a royal pain in the arse. Cards and paks are not like that).
 * Anybody willing to guess how long it will take after release before 'virtual console' is hacked to allow people to transfer their 'own' roms, rather than pay to download the offical ones? &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.77.126.211 (talk &bull; contribs).

NEW CONTROLLER INFO
&mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Zopwx2 (talk • contribs).
 * http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/09/15/news_6133335.html
 * http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2005/news/09/15/revcon_screen001.jpg
 * http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2005/news/09/15/revcon_screen002.jpg
 * http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2005/news/09/15/revcon_screen003.jpg
 * http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2005/news/09/15/revcon_screen004.jpg
 * http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2005/news/09/15/revcon_screen005.jpg


 * http://media.cube.ign.com/articles/651/651559/img_3077147.html &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Spyker3292 (talk &bull; contribs).


 * The new controller was first revealed at the TGS event in Japan during a keynote speech by Nintendo President Iwata.
 * The new controller looks like a mating of an Ipod and a remote; using sensors in the controller and on the TV, it can detect the controller movement, like a mouse moving in the XYZ plane. An analog stick with 2 shoulder buttons is available as an attachment; much like nunchucks, it connects to the remote to allow stick control as well.  IGN.com has an excellent writeup on the controller, the demos they were shown with it (including a retooled Metroid Prime 2 level compatible with the controller!) and speculation on possible control for various different games. &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.149.206.188 (talk &bull; contribs).


 * That is one bad ass controller. That seals the deal; I'm getting an Xbox 360 and a Revolution! Xbox 360 will be great for some really improved versions of games we're used to playing now, the Revolution will be truly revolutionary from the looks of it. The PS3...ugh...looks like the same old crap there. I see no reason to get a PS3 actually, most games on it will be ported to the Revolution/Xbox 360...both consoles have been pledged a lot of support from third parties. Majal Kita 21:50, 16 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Sorry kid, but Metal Gear Solid 4 is better than all xbox360 games. --Mateusc 01:59, 17 September 2005 (UTC)


 * tHE GUY ABOVE ME IS RIGHT PS3 ROCKS, it has wikid graphics not like stupid XBOX 360 no non no no no XBOX 360 is Shit.dat wut i say. besides im a genius with 243 IQ don't you dare say XBOX 360 Rocks It is good but 1 thumb down by the multimedia.HI name cant be revieled &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.43.137.27 (talk &bull; contribs).


 * Hah! Good one! Haven't we played enough of the same old MGS? MGS 1, MGS 2, MGS 3...you mean to tell me something I've played 3 times already is going to be better than any game on the Xbox 360? By the way...chances are good that MGS will migrate to the 360 or Revolution, or possibly both in the future. Xizer 06:11, 17 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Not here, please. Take it to LiveJournal. Garrett Albright 14:04, 17 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Now, for a serious debate here: is the Revo not officially the sexiest gaming console ever designed? I think we should skip the POV bullocks and add this fact to the article. (Momus 04:08, 18 September 2005 (UTC))


 * Yea... I know what you mean. But you know someone even here will debate that with you, let alone if it was put in the article, but I know what you mean. I think the system is great so far. --Ritz 22:41, 19 September 2005 (UTC)


 * lol, agreed Mateusc :) --Wulf 06:03, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

For some reason, my browser says both the trigger buttons on the 'Nunchuck' are called Z(rectangle). Is this a fault with the browser or the article? If so, should it become Z1 ( Z1 ) and Z 2 ( Z 2 ). Smurrayinchester 15:22, 20 September 2005 (UTC)


 * You need a font with the SUBSCRIPT ONE and SUBSCRIPT TWO characters. You should probably install your OS's unicode package. Dread Lord C y b e r S k u l l ✎☠ 23:23, 20 September 2005 (UTC)


 * ~TT~
 * I noticed there is a battery door on the back of the controller.


 * Does anyone know if it will take normal batteries or it will come with some sort
 * of in built charger you can plug it into. It could be a real bastard if your playing a game
 * than all of a sudden you can't play because the controller stops working.
 * You can't save or fend off enemies. Wonder how long the battery lasts. &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 61.69.12.20 (talk &bull; contribs).

Raven Blade
Rumor has it that Raven Blade has been reconfirmed for Nintendo Revolution. It is a trademark of Retro Studios, the maker of Metroid Prime series. It was canceled for Nintendo Nintendo GameCube. Decimus Tedius Regio Zanarukando 22:11, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Ted (who has rejected SSBR and blames Fynal for it), that's pretty irrelevant unless we know the rumor isn't coming from you. - A Link to the Past (talk) 01:33, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
 * There may be a good chance that I will reject Super Smash Bros. Revolution and blame Fynal for the rejection. If I reject Super Smash Bros. Revolution, I will give it a bad review.  Lip of Panel de Pon should not be in SSBR, and neither should Leaf or Celice of Fire Emblem: Seisen no Keifu.  I would settle for Final Fantasy XIII or a remake of Final Fantasy VII.  I might goes as far as making fun of Nintendo.  The rumor about Raven Blade was heard at jeuxfrance.com (written in French). Several people want Retro Studios to resume development of Raven Blade and bring it to Nintendo Revolution.  Decimus Tedius Regio Zanarukando 05:30, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Ted (who is being childish and spending half of his message flaming SSBR and a GameFAQs member), I asked for a source, not you saying the source exists. - A Link to the Past (talk) 19:42, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

source for downloading of Sega games rumour?
I was just wondering if there was a source for the rumour cited in article about possible downloads of games from Sega systems? ''Classic Sega titles may also be made available for download, in addition to classic Nintendo titles. This potentially includes titles released for the Sega Master System, Sega Genesis/Megadrive, Sega CD, Sega 32x and Sega Saturn. Some of the CD-based games would need to be either stored on external SD cards that the Revolution supports or delivered on optical discs, given the system's expected 512MB of internal storage.'' Just wondering if it is just fan speculation or if something either Nintendo or Sega has said has given rise to this rumour or if the rumour originated from a credible source. I'm just asking, because I've so far only encountered the rumour on Wikipedia and I was wondering if I missed anything. --Codemonkey 11:59, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
 * AFAIK, fan speculation based on comments by Sega execs who say they would LIKE to make their stuff available for Rev. Which I'm not even 100% sure was what was said, since it's been a while since I saw that. One way or another, it's not official yet. --Shadow Hog 18:06, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
 * If they're going to, they'd need the Revolution to emulate those systems as well as Nintendo's own. And I don't think theyre planning on doing that. Optichan 18:49, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Not to mention even the most able Saturn emulator needs a heckuva a computer to work. It's prolly worth that, though; it runs a mean game of NiGHTS, Sonic Jam, Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, et cetera... --Shadow Hog 20:43, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
 * If emulation of Sega's systems isn't built in, it could still be on a DVD-ROM or such, so it's not completely impossible. The Saturn hardware is difficult to emulate, but I think the Rev would be able to handle it. Garrett Albright 11:55, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
 * True; all you need is SSF (best Saturn emulator by a long shot, but slow on a good deal of computers), the Saturn image, and one heckuva computer - which both the OTHER consoles seem to be, and apparently this'll be, too. But it probably wouldn't be THAT likely to surface... --Shadow Hog 02:06, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Meh, no, if Sega did this, they would write their ow emulator. That way it would be optimized for the Rev hardware, and it wouldn't have to feature any reverse-engineering hacks. Garrett Albright 10:03, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
 * So, I did a bit of googling, and I'm guessing that these comments from Sega are what you are referring to, Shadow Hog? I'll add the link to the article, bad form to have rumours with zero references. Also, I totally missed this comment from Sega, and now I'm all excited. ;) --Codemonkey 17:19, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that sounds about right.
 * As for using their own Saturn emulator... well, they DID liscense GiriGiri for their own uses. I think you were able to rent NiGHTS off of some online rental services for PC play, over in Japan - however, having toyed around with the emulator, it's really not as good as SSF is. Shame they didn't buy SSF instead... oh well. --Shadow Hog 19:13, 25 September 2005 (UTC)