Talk:Wilford Brimley/Archive 1

Oregon Trail
Under Filmography there are two listings for Oregon Trail. One appears to be a made-for-TV movie, which is fine under Filmography. The other appears to be for a guest role in the TV series. The TV show entry shouldn't be under Filmography, but under TV appearances instead. Can someone fix this? 98.221.120.104 (talk) 04:38, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Removed idiotic vandalism
Removed the following passage from the intro: "Wilford Brimley is the largest ever landwhale. He is also the only landwhale in the world. His dissability has something to do with his testing supplies." So, not only is this person a vandal, they are idiotic and can't spell. Grow up people!--HillbillyProfane (talk) 13:46, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Can you cite specific sources that suggests that he is not the largest ever landwhale?74.244.90.148 (talk) 03:54, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
 * No, I can't site that he's not, just as I can't site proof that you're not a moron, however it's obvious that you are, and that Brimley is not a landwhale. Seriously, grow up.--HillbillyProfane (talk) 10:24, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Hilarious!--Beatsbox (talk) 18:17, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Hahaha!!!81.147.100.171 (talk) 18:20, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Needs work
This page seems poorly done. Comparing him to the Lorax? A link in the main text to somebody's BLOG POST? Not to mention nothing about the one thing that first brought him to popular attention, his appearance in the film Cocoon. - Jafafa Hots


 * Well, the great thing about Wikipedia is that you can edit it. Please make some of these changes. Val42 06:24, 10 January 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm too scatter-brained to do it well. Jafafa Hots 22:31, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Removal of quote.
I removed the Family Guy quote but placed a citation where it can easily be found. While I personally find it hilarious, I just don't think it's encyclopedic without the context of a video of his other commercials for comparison, and anyhow he's had a a pretty long acting career before these commericals, and I think that should be the focus of the article. Please try to revert modifications of this as well as "He has diabetes" references and the like, as that, too is already stated in the portion about his diabetes spokesmanship. Thanks ...... BabuBhatt 08:33, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Wilford Brimley was not in the Hardee's Frisco Burger Commercials
I can't remember the exact details about this, but in these commercials, Hardee's used an actor who bore a strong resemblance to Wilford Brimley (both physically and voice-wise). But it was not Wilford Brimley himself. Brimley brought legal action against Hardee's, and they were forced to pull these spots. I feel really bad for the actor. It's not his fault he looks and sounds like Brimley! By the way, I'm going to delete the line about Brimley appearing in these commercials, because it's just not true.

--Angela Brown, Los Angeles, Calif.

Oh, sorry. I still have one of the commercials on tape from September, 1992. From what I remember, it was only narration, and it sounded just like Brimley, so I added it here. But since he did have a legal battle over it, I think that's notable in itself. --Caleson August 25, 2006

Seinfeld actor?
Is he really a Seinfeld actor? There's no mention in the article, but its in the category. Steve 17:58, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Never mind. It's in the imdb profile. Steve 18:02, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
 * He was the Postmaster General! "Well, it's my job and I'm pretty damn serious about it. In addition to being a postmaster, I'm also a general. And we both know, it's the job of a general to, by God, get things done. So maybe you can understand why I get a little irritated when someone calls me away from my golf." Just FYI.  Esrever 01:28, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Wilford Brimley did have a role on the 1986 TV series Our House with Chad Allen. This was not mentioned in the movie history section of the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.221.242.210 (talk) 05:06, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

"Wilfredo"
I'm going to delete the stuff about his "Latin American" fanbase, as nothing on Google seems to suggest this is true. Esrever 01:31, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Wilfredo, I gotta say it was a good joke.--Beatsbox (talk) 18:19, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

A bit lacking
It would seem from this page that Brimley hasn't done much and is best known for Quaker Oats and some Ewok movie. That's a bit insulting to an acter whose been around as long as him and recognized for many other things over some Ewok movie.

Those Ewoks took down the empires finest troops despite being a third of their size. You would do well to respect them.--Beatsbox (talk) 18:20, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Lock?
We've got a lot of folks coming in and vandalizing this, thanks to the Diabeetus craze. Shouldn't we lock the article to non-registered editors? Rockhound 15:15, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, this whole article is nonsense needs to be recreated from the ground up140.140.58.8 22:01, 19 October 2006 (UTC)


 * I just removed a rather subtle reference to the internet fad. I doubt the problem is bad enough to warrant any type of protection/semi-protection, unless there is a huge influx of vandalism.  I'd just recommend reverting any changes as you see them pop up. dougk  (Talk ˑ Contribs) 18:24, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

This Article also needs a picture, Badly! It does not have to be a great pic just something to recognize him with. unsigned
 * Put one on the other week! FotoPhest (talk) 01:55, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

Diabeetis
The pronunciation that this entry ridicules as some kind of quirk of Wilfred Brimley's pronunciation is accepted... and, in fact, you'll find it as the primary pronunciation in most dictionaries... including the American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language. Therefore... I'm removing it. I have a feeling that this was the perception of one particular viewer... and, dare I say, while sitting around getting stoned with his buddies. "Hey, guys... listen to that crazy old dude! 'Dia-BEE-tusssss'... wahahahaha." Gimme a f*ckin break. You KNOW it was something like that. User:HB_Scone 23:03 PST, 17 Sept 2008
 * Although perhaps the "diabeetis" fad isn't inherently notable, I think perhaps the pronunciation itself is. I remember that I would always be irritated by the pronunciation "diabeetis", as was a friend of mine, and the whole "diabeetis" fad is a sign that we're not alone. Thoughts? - furrykef (Talk at me) 15:11, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Please see Biographies of living persons. The gist of it is that if you want to say bad things about or make fun of a living person, you must have reference for it from a reliable source.  &mdash;dgies tc 17:36, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I always thought it was "diabeetus", but maybe I'm wrong. - Two-Sixteen.11.222.21 17:31, 1 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Whatever the case may be, it does not belong in the article itself. Ever. I love Stephen Colbert but he is not a reliable source. It'd be like citing George Carlin. --WoohookittyWoohoo! 12:42, 21 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Mike Curtis's comment above is correct. AHD4's first-listed pronunciation is dī′ə-bē′tĭs, then -tēz. For people to ridicule Brimley reminds me of Homer Simpson's smugness as he advises someone that the "correct" pronunciation of nuclear is . The pronunciation being ridiculed is not "wrong". — ¾-10 02:23, 1 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Nonetheless, it definitely needs to be directly referenced. People on YouTube have just taken his commercials and made total mince meat out of them. Granted it's really just a product of his accent (Bill Clinton apparently also pronounces it as Diabeetis), but he's the face of Liberty Medical and he's seen on TV stations everywhere in the U.S. at times when the elderly would be watching, such as on late-morning shows like The Price Is Right. Furthermore, his voice is distinct and powerful as well as the fact that his obesity and mustache truly lend him the appearance of a walrus and there's no resisting making fun of him. Just because wikipedia aims to be encyclopedic whenever possible, doesn't mean whoever contributes to this article has to work around stating the obvious truth. I don't think it's POV either to simply reference these dubious distinctions of his. I say it should be reentered into the context of the article. -Alan 24.184.184.177 (talk) 22:00, 31 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Family Guy even parodied it. When it's been on national TV I think it's time to add it to the article as an existing phenomenon. Oh and before I forget, check your blood sugar and check it often. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.171.46.69 (talk) 22:38, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Redux: First off, the pronunciation is not "unique" or improper; it is a matter of regional accent (I personally happened to grow up with that pronunciation.)

Second, it is highly improper tone, and non-NPOV, and improper to mock a BLP subject by wording it like this, even if you can cite a comedic source. If someone wanted to raise the issue in a neutral tone (i.e. that the word's pronunciation varies and that Brimley's is in the minority (that would take a linguistic citation, wouldn't it?)), that would be another matter.

Making an issue of this based on comedic parody makes a mockery of the good things Wikipedia is supposed to stand for (NPOV, tolerance, anti-systemic bias, etc.) Discriminating against people for how they pronounce words is really low. Wikipedia wasn't founded for the purpose of promoting what is nothing more than smart-ass mockery. JustinTime55 (talk) 21:42, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

My edit was removed, adding information not mocking him, but at least making mention of the fact an internet meme has arisen from this. This is verifiable fact, and I provided a citation. Other celebrities the subject of internet memes have mention of this in their articles (see the article for Xzibit and it's reference to the "Yo Dawg" meme). You're the one who thinks merely mentioning this is akin to insulting him, and thus you're the one who thinks an accent is something to be ashamed of. I merely cited verifiable fact. And it's removal is completely unfounded. This Liberty Medical ad and his pronunciation of the word is literally the ONLY reason this man is of any notability to my generation, and not having it in the article is ridiculous.

Kwaal (talk) 07:36, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

I agree with Kwaal. I propose posting something like the following to the end of his Career section: "Brimley is the centerpiece of an Internet meme poking fun at his pronunciation of the word 'diabetes.'" The citation could be to: www.knowyourmeme.com/memes/diabeetus. Knowyourmeme.com is a kind of encyclopedia of memes. I agree with Kwaal that the meme is the only reason Brimley is relevant to a lot of people. In fact, it is the reason I looked up his wikipedia page in the first place (I was shocked when there was no mention of it). Moreover, like Kwaal says, it is a verifiable fact that he is part of a meme. By including that information, the article itself would not be ridiculing Brimley. Rather, the article would provide a more thorough collection of information about the man--and isn't that the point of an encyclopedia? The question is not whether "diabeetus" or "diabeetees" is the correct pronunciation. That is a distraction from the real issue: Why not include this verifiable fact about Wilford Brimley? The language I propose above takes no position on whether his pronunciation is correct; it merely states that the meme focuses on it. --Saxaphonst (talk) 19:27, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Article used to be bigger
Okay, this article used to be like 3 times bigger. What happened? Who keeps taking stuff out and why? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 156.56.169.89 (talk) 10:49, August 30, 2007 (UTC)
 * You could just check the history section.208.79.244.67 (talk) 21:27, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Cult Figure In ROM Hacking Scene
I remember in the past that this entry mentioned that. Adding Wilford Brimley to a video game / ROM file is a common occurrence. I know its silly, but there are so many of them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.45.7.167 (talk) 20:09, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Liberty Mutual/Medical
It's mentioned in the pop culture section that a Liberty Mutual commercial interrupted a supposedly commercial-free trailer. Liberty Mutual is not the same as Liberty Medical, which is the company that Brimley is a spokesperson for. This reference should be removed, as Liberty Mutual is not associated with Brimley, or it should be corrected if it was actually a Liberty Medical commercial that interrupted the trailer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.168.25.203 (talk) 16:55, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Picture
This Article also needs a picture, Badly! It does not have to be a great pic just something to recognize him with. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.86.200.199 (talk)
 * I like this one. &mdash; SheeEttin {T/C} 04:53, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Cockfighting
''Outside of film and advertisements, Brimley is also known as an activist, paying from his own funds for ads to have Utah allow horse-race gambling, and he was actively opposed to the banning of cockfighting. He has campaigned in Arizona and New Mexico against laws banning cockfighting.''

Ok, this may very well be true, but at the very least it sounds suspicious. Does anyone know if this is actually true or not? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lazarusongrave (talk • contribs) 03:41, 7 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, that's true. If someone can get some reliable sources, I'll re-add it. Yesitsnot (talk) 10:52, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
 * This source isn't really reliable. It's an activist sight that says that a reliable source said something. It also doesn't say that he "actively opposed" the ban. For that matter, the source doesn't even say he supports cockfighting, only that he opposed the ban based on his support of personal freedoms. Niteshift36 (talk) 23:45, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Check your blood sugar
This article needs a lot of expansion. The prose is choppy, there aren't enough sources, and the infobox is bare. Stir your stumps, lazy people, and stir them often. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 03:19, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Wilford Brimley
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Wilford Brimley's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "Miracles": From Tender Mercies:  From Robert Duvall:  

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 06:38, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Removed bit from article

 * Wilford has been known to look old for his age. This is due to his recently acquired type two diabetes.

Well, he was born in 1934, and it's difficult to look "old for being born in 1934" these days (although maybe it was true in the past). Also, earlier in the article, it says he was diagnosed with diabetes in 1979, which is anything but recent. To be fair, it may be that only type-two diabetes is a recent diagnosis, but the article doesn't make this clear. I've removed both sentences. - furrykef (Talk at me) 08:47, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Put this back in! His career is based on looking older for his age. Yes he was born in 1934 but his films were produced in the 1980's which means he was aged in his 50's playing guys in their 70's and 80's! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.79.90.182 (talk) 09:17, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

First name is Anthony
Spoke to a sister of Wilford Brimley, who stated that his correct first given name is Anthony, not Allen. Made that change and no others. Wschiess (talk) 04:59, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
 * There is no secondary source that says as such; the only things I found saying Anthony were all Wikipedia mirrors. We can't just go by word of mouth since there's no easy way to verify it. If it is indeed Anthony, then we would need something concrete like a birth certificate. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 13:14, 18 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Is that a realistic standard for verification? You have to see a birth certificate? (You are willing to rely on web sources for Allen.) He is estranged from his three sisters Lucile Brimley Eastman, Donna Janeen Brimley Stevens, and Alyce Carol Brimley Schiess (my mother). But you might try contacting his brother Sterling Brimley, who is a person of modest note in the Salt Lake City area. I will try to get contact info from Alyce Carol Brimley Schiess and see if she can provide some verification. In the mean time, since you have no verification that meets your own standards for Allen, let's leave it as Wilford.Wschiess (talk) 04:44, 26 March 2010 (UTC)Wschiess (talk) 04:50, 26 March 2010 (UTC)


 * You might try to contact Sterling Brimley through a community choir he founded. The website is here: http://sterlingsingers.com/sbrimley.aspx I do not see an email address for Sterling on the site, but the Webmaster may be able to help. Still trying to reach Sterling myself through other channels.Wschiess (talk) 14:01, 26 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Original research is pooped upon by Wikipedia. Check the policy. You are only allowed to cite reputable research - you are not to include your own. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.185.224.51 (talk) 06:59, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

That's what irks me most about Wikipedia......and bios in particular on people of which it's harder to find verifiable information for. I mean c'mon the whole original research ban is BS in a way because it blocks gathering verifiable sources outside of articles and the like which is just nonsense. I mean just because Wilford Brimley's family aren't published authors/etc doesn't mean they shouldn't be cites for info on a dad gum family member goshdarnit. 76.180.169.14 (talk) 13:15, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Pending changes
This article is one of a number selected for the early stage of the trial of the Pending Changes system on the English language Wikipedia. All the articles listed at Pending changes/Queue  are being considered for level 1 pending changes protection.

The following request appears on that page:

Comments on the suitability of theis page for "Pending changes" would be appreciated.

Please update the Queue page as inappropriate.

Note that I am not involved in this project any much more than any other editor, just posting these notes since it is quite a big change, potentially

Regards, Rich Farmbrough, 00:39, 17 June 2010 (UTC).

Politics
Since he supported John McCain in the 2008 Presidential Elections should he be added into the Republicans (United States) category at the bottom of his page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.70.27.96 (talk) 23:32, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Type of Diabetes
I think it should be added what type of Diabetes Mr. Brimely has. I had to search Google to find out he has type 2 Diabetes. I found it here: http://carefirst.staywellsolutionsonline.com/RelatedItems/1,2046. I also think it is important for the sake of fair and balanced information to mention this, seeing as type 2 diabetes is a curable condition, and by helping maintain a mystery as to what type a tv spokesperson has, assists the medical insurance corporation he works for to perpetuate bad health advice. I have noticed over the years that Mr. Brimely has gotten more overweight, and I just assumed he had type 1 diabetes. I have type 1 diabetes which is genetic, I have known people who are simply overweight and who have lost the weight and reversed their type 2 diabetes, and they are no longer diabetic or at risk of the severe affects of diabetes. This has also been documented extensively on several tv shows, the Biggest Loser, Village on a Diet, 60 Minutes, 20/20, scientific studies reported on the national news, Dr. Oz, and Oprah. I think it is irresponsible to assist a deception, in any way, that may make people sick and more dependent on medical insurance corporations than they have to be. I want to leave it up to the editors of this article, since my addition would probably be deleted anyways. Please consider this revision fairly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.161.181.191 (talk) 04:10, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Brimley was on The Waltons
This article contains a glaring omission: Brimley had a recurring, credited TV series role in the 1970s on The Waltons. He started as an occasional background character in the second or third season, then started appearing a bit more frequently in the midle seasons. His character (co-incidentally?) had the same last name, Horace Brimley, and he was essentially a younger version of the crusty character he's always played. (This is not a hoax; easily verifiable on the DVD's.) JustinTime55 (talk) 21:19, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Primary source question
How do I make or request changes? I was involved with an interview with him on Sept 17, 2011 and personally verified some things (have audio of interview) and there are some corrections that need to be made, thanks! (Unsigned comment by 70.57.1.8)


 * First, some basic instruction: You managed to make your question invisible by removing comment markup to the text before it; and second, you need to add new topics at the bottom (use the New Section tab at the top.)


 * Now, to answer your query, unfortunately you are a primary source which can't be used according to policy. Encyclopedic information must be verifiable in externally published sources. (Please click on these blue links and read them.) Why don't you post what corrections you think need to be made here on this talk page, and we'll try to decide what we can do. JustinTime55 (talk) 21:33, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

In popular culture
I think a section that details where he was spoofed should be added, particularly that Family Guy spoofed him twice so far. Boobymonster (talk) 17:30, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 7 April 2012
I am Wilford's wife. My name is Beverly King Berry Brimley and Wilford and I moved to Greybull, Wyoming in July of 2007. We married on 10/31/2007 in Shell, Wyoming. Lynne was Wilford's first wife, was my friend, and passed away in 2000. Please correct Wilford's first name to Anthony instead of Allen. Anthony is his legal first name. I can provide documents for all of the above statements if needed.


 * ❌ for now. Either provide a reliable source, or send a mail to our OTRS system as described at Contact us/Article problem/Factual error (from subject). Regards, mabdul 20:46, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Comment moved from User talk:Mabdul His first name is Anthony, not Allen. Requests to change it (including one from his wife) have been rejected, which is understandable, since she provided no source. It should at least be edited to A. instead of Allen, since there is no verifiable source for it as Allen. Look at his IMDB page. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000979/ It has it correct, as Anthony. 96.18.212.235 (talk) 04:54, 28 July 2012 (UTC)aschiess


 * Ok, I trimmed it down, checking the existing references and only two mention another first name:


 * Imdb: Anthoney
 * mahalo: Allen
 * So trimmind down now! mabdul 23:34, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Public records show Anthony as well - – Connormah (talk) 22:16, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Walrusness
I think we have reached a point where there have been enough references to Brimley's Walrus-like appearance that it should be included in the article. This has been mentioned on Family Guy, Colbert, all over the internet, and a search for the term "Spokeswalrus" returns Brimley in all top 10 results. 98.20.189.60 (talk) 05:57, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 9 November 2012
I would like to add his trademark as being his unique pronunciation of the word "Diabetes". It would be noted after the mentioning of his role in the Liberty Mutual advertisements.

Greenbaumgab (talk) 00:37, 9 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: First of all, you must cite a reliable source with a change like that. Second, Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information, so a fact like that does not belong in an encyclopedia. &#0032;⋘HueSatLum ?&thinsp;❢⋙ 01:44, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

DIABEETUS
why isnt that in this place? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.98.126.173 (talk) 15:06, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

Why don't someone add that that's the way he pronounces it in all his Liberty Mutual commercials? unsigned
 * I don't think it's appropriate or relevant. FotoPhest (talk) 03:43, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

Daytime Soap Opera
I believe that this gentleman was also in the soap opera "Days of Our Lives" in the 80s. Trying to locate a reference, but don't know where the best place to look would be. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.10.142.54 (talk) 20:57, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 16 January 2013
Update the name listed "A. Wilford Brimley" to "Anthony Wilford Brimley." The first name can be found on his IMDB page (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000979/)

71.219.122.62 (talk) 22:32, 16 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Unfortunately, IMDb doesn't meet Wikipedia guidelines for reliable sources. It would be great to be able to add this, though. Rivertorch (talk) 17:03, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Mormon
Available published citation: Other web based validations: Please let me know if you need any more. -- 208.81.184.4 (talk) 00:49, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't really think the web sources pass muster for a BLP, but the book source is good. I've incorporated it into the article. Thanks for finding these. --BDD (talk) 20:25, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Rapping career
I see nothing of his rap video, in which he calls himself Ice Ice Brimley "And to the fortunate ladies that I loved along the trail: you better get tested, and thanks for the tail"

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Years active
Wikipedia is saying that his last movie was Timber The Treasure Dog in 2016.

IMDB is saying that I Believe (2017) was his last movie.

What should the ending date be changed to? MikaelaArsenault (talk) 09:57, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

Lawrence D. Brimley, Wilford's son, died in infancy...
Lawrence D. Brimley, Wilford's son, died in infancy...

He was 28 days old

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/108456110/lawrence-dean-brimley — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.98.176.46 (talk) 12:51, 2 August 2020 (UTC)