Talk:Wilhelm Brasse

Free image of subject?
It would be very useful to have an image of this subject, as the subject was a photographer himself and as the subject is notable due to his photography. He is currently over 90 years old, according to the sources. Perhaps someone has an image that could be properly uploaded to Wikipedia Commons; if anyone was at the screening of his film in London and took a personal photograph of him, it would be okay to license that photograph for use in Wikipedia Commons. Images found via Google searches are copyright protected (see notices). --NYScholar (talk) 18:25, 30 August 2008 (UTC)]]

Related discussions
See Talk:Czesława Kwoka. Thanks. --NYScholar (talk) 19:32, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

The Portraitist (about Wilhelm Brasse)
I've added the EL for the film as well as additional source about its premiere (see Wilhelm Brasse. The footage in the Adobe Flash content on the documentary film production site contains images that appear to have been uploaded to the now-deleted YouTube videos without permission of the photographer or the filmmakers.  For those who want to see the origins of these images, one needs to visit the site and to read about the film; these images appear in the film, which was made for Polish television and shown both in London and at at least three Polish film festivals; excerpts from reviews on on the official documentary film production site (see the EL info.).  --NYScholar (talk) 20:31, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * [According to Keane, as cited now in Wilhelm Brasse, the film is ordered directly from its distributor via E-mail and may be easily accessible to many people, some of whom who may have captured parts of it in video compilations that are being distributed (illegally) via the internet. --NYScholar (talk) 04:05, 31 August 2008 (UTC)]

linking
This is an important article. I've gone through the first few paragraphs and made a few changes. It's heavily overlinked: at issue are not only date fragments (such as single years), but autoformatted full dates, repeat links, links of common terms (American), and links within quotations (which are not allowed). I've done a bit of delinking, but owing to your posts at LM's page, I've taken the unusual step of retaining the chronological blue patches, for the moment. It's a pity, since they dilute the high-value links—which your readers might be more likely to follow if they weren't in a sea of blue.

Please keep in touch if you have further issues. BTW, you might consider using a fewer commas, just in a few grammatical contexts. Commas are often a personal matter, but here I think greater flow comes from those removals—see what you think. Tony  (talk)  09:02, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

On some other talk page relating to a bot re: dates, I suggested that the person using the bot try delinking the dates as he wanted to (was it you on another page; the user was named "Tony" as well). Just go ahead and try it the way you are suggesting and we'll see how it works. Re: the commas, I follow proper punctuation use in restrictive and non-restrictive elements, which some people who edit Wikipedia are not familiar with. I am not punctuating according to a personal preference re: "flow"; that is not in keeping with English-language style usage for commas [and other punctuation]. I don't regard commas and other punctuation as a "personal matter"; I regard such punctuation as an editorial matter, pertaining to usage rules, such as those found in style manuals such as The MLA Style Manual and other Style guides. I am striving for consistency and follow The MLA Style Manual and others pertaining specifically to formal English (such as pertains to encyclopedic editing style; not casual or personal editing style). Thanks for your comments and efforts. --NYScholar (talk) 23:54, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

FYI: Here's the link to the related discussion: User talk:Lightmouse. --NYScholar (talk) 23:59, 19 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Quoting my own final reply there: "If you want to use your bot on all of these related articles consistently, that might work to the benefit of Wikipedia/readers. If you do it, I'll take a look at the results later. Thanks again." --NYScholar (talk) 00:00, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

No style guide can "legislate" for all comma usage, since some of it relies on subtle judgement. There are mandatory commas, there are places where commas must not be used (some of yours, I'd say), and there are optional commas that depend on the context and the style of the individual user. But I don't want to argue about this. Tony  (talk)  02:37, 20 September 2008 (UTC) PS I don't think your FU rationale holds up according to WP:NFC. But I don't want to spend time on it. Tony  (talk)  02:40, 20 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I don't know where you are getting "legislate" from in my comment; given my knowledge of the use of commas pertaining to restrictive and non-restrictive elements, I use my own editorial judgment based on that knowledge in adding or deleting commas. Commas are also used in dates (with a comma after the year in month, day, year, prior to the rest of a sentence) and after place names.  Since you have given no specific examples, I don't really know which precise commas you referred to earlier; you need to post "diffs." so one can examine the particular edits or at the least quote the full sentences with the commas that you don't agree with.


 * The ref. to the illustration is not related to the previous discussion: I could change it to "movie poster" but it does come from promotional materials; it is also used as a movie poster for the film; such images meet the criteria as "acceptable" in Non-free content ("Guideline examples": "Acceptable use": "Images": item no. 4: "Other promotional material: Posters, programs, billboards, ads. For critical commentary." It is a non-free use rationale that gives the information required for each article which discusses the film as a topic of the article and cites as sources critical reviews and feature articles about the film.   --NYScholar (talk) 03:56, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

If the noted birth date is correct, he died at the age of 94, not 95 (see end of first section). Unclemikejb (talk) 04:20, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
 * This is what was written in the source, but, you're correct. He died one month short of his 95th birthday. Poeticbent talk 06:20, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

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