Talk:William Conrad Gibbons

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Hello all Wikipedia people who read this article, I am William Conrad Gibbons' daughter and created this article about him. I know it is a conflict of interest because I am his daughter, but I very much wanted him to have an article as I think he is very deserving of one after all he has accomplished. My hope is that what I've done so far is a good enough start that some of the Vietnam historians and scholars can now come edit it and make it better. I have read through the guidelines about biographies of living people and I think most of the material is within the guidelines. The paragraph which references quotes by people about the books are very difficult to provide online references for. The one from Stanley Karnow is printed on the book itself, but the only online form I could find was from an online bookseller which I'm sure is not a very good reference. I have found it a bit frustrating that newspapers such as the Boston Globe and the Washington Post only have their material online through paid subscriptions making it impossible to provide an online reference. I'm curious what other people have done in this instance. I suppose they are just left out, but it is too bad. I'm more than happy to make more edits to this article, but since it is a conflict of interest for me, I'm really hoping someone else who is in the Vietnam research world will take up the reins. Sincerely, Gayle Madeira Gaylemadeira (talk) 19:44, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

William Conrad Gibbons
At the advice of a very nice Wikipedia editor MLauba, since I'm the webmaster of my dad's site and I wrote the content of his bio there, I went on it and added information to let people know that it is free to be shared and reproduced.

NOTE: The information on this page is free to be shared and reproduced and is released under the Creative Commons-Attribution-Sharealike 3.0 license: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/

-Gayle Gibbons Madeira

I hope this helps. I'm really sorry I'm up to speed yet and I'll keep trying! Thanks for helping, Gayle Gaylemadeira (talk) 20:30, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
 * It does help, I've cleared the copyright investigation. A couple of additional remarks:


 * William Conrad Gibbons is subject to our policy on biographies of living people and is subject to stringent sourcing requirements. This should definitely become the focus of the next activities on the article


 * The oldest versions of the article appear to contain material copied from the Washington Post, and have been removed from view on a precaution


 * In a similar vein, portions of the source website quote extensively from other sources. Wikipedia's own approach on fair use tends to be in many ways more restrictive than what the current legislation allows for (see WP:NFC), and reproducing them here is not permitted. That is less of a worry than it might appear, as those extensive quotes aren't really adding anything of value to an encyclopaedic coverage of Mr. Gibbons. MLauba (Talk) 21:54, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Did Gibbons make a mistake?
There is currently a raging debate at the JFK Assassination Debate -- Education Forum as to whether or not Gibbons was correct in saying in his The U.S. Government and the Vietnam War: Executive and Legislative Roles and Relationships, Part 1: 1945-1960 that Chiang Kai-shek attended the Tehran Conference. We know that he attended the earlier Cairo Conference, but there seems to be no evidence that he attended the Tehran Conference. Did Gibbons confuse the two conferences in this regard? This is what Gibbons said on page 4 of the 1986 Princeton edition which is viewable online:

“The British were also opposed to suggestions for lessening control over other colonies, such as Indochina, because of the possible effect on their own Empire. At the Teheran Conference in 1943, Stalin and Chiang Kai-shek both approved Roosevelt’s proposal for a trusteeship for Indochina, but Churchill was vehemently against the idea.”

Thoughts? Thanks. Was Kisevalter Nash? (talk) 23:40, 8 October 2023 (UTC)