Talk:William D. Leahy

Merger
Las memorias de Leahy does not contain part of the diaries but two versions of his memoirs on the Puerto Rican governorship which I found among his papers in Wisconsin a his son William H released to me. I am the editor of that book, Jorge Rodríguez Beruff. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.50.125.84 (talk) 05:07, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

I think I've moved over the important information. If someone wants to delete Admiral Leahy article, they're welcome to do so.
 * Engineer Bob
 * These historic facts remain relevant to mapping memes shared among future thought leaders of his generation!
 * After his wife's death, Leahy was a trusted advisor to both U.S. Presidentd F. D. Roosevelt and Harry S. Truman after FDR's death!
 * geoWIZard-Passports 21:50, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Copyvio

 * Not sure of the reasoning behind this edit. The website listed in the copyvio was http://www.williamdleahy.com.  This is actually just a redirect to http://web.mac.com/walkerlamond/iWeb/William%20D.%20Leahy/Home.html, which is a users page on mac.com  There is no copyright information listed on that sub-site, could it be that WP information was copied TO there, rather than FROM there?  After all, isn't that the point of WP?  Let's get some discussion before hitting the panic button. &mdash; MrDolomite | Talk 08:06, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Not that it is conclusive, but wayback has nothing &mdash; MrDolomite | Talk 08:08, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
 * can someone please tell me what cord he is wearing?????!RAVENCLAW?? (talk) 21:53, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
 * What do you all mean by what cord?--Biografer (talk) 03:59, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * In case someone else is wondering, this is called an aiguillette. It is worn over the right shoulder by military aides to the President of the United States. Hawkeye7   (discuss)  20:15, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Ambassador to France
Admiral Leahy was of the utmost importance in Franco-American relations and this section desperately needs expansion. His seduction (figurative) by Petain and Darlan poisoned Franco-American relations for generations. Leahy's views became Roosevelts... and it is mentioned in Churchill's Memoirs of the Second World War. V. Joe (talk) 02:30, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

"In his most controvertial role..." Says who?
There is no citation for the claim in the opening blurb that Leahy's Ambassadorship to France was "his most controversial role." Is this actually cited anywhere in any outstanding literature, or is this just yet more partisan character assassination coming from some hack armchair historian? Citations, please. Thank you 114.167.137.103 (talk) 15:58, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Leahy himself said it: "President Roosevelt sent me on one of the most controversial diplomatic missions of- the entire war period— that of being Ambassador to France." Leahy, I was there page 3 Historians often repeat the theme: "Roosevelt in November 1940 had given Leahy the equally delicate and even more controversial assignment of US ambassador to Vichy France, a post he held for eighteen critical months." (Otis Graham, FDR Encyclopedia); Rjensen (talk) 18:29, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

I removed a quote sourced from avn8.com. avn8.com does not provide sources for their quotes and in turn does not promote that their quotes are authentic. Please see the following statement from avn8.com: "These are just for fun. I have no idea whether the quotes are accurate or not. Loosely speaking, they support the idea that appeal to authority is unscientific". I am a bit surprised that anyone would consider avn8.com to be a worthy source as even it's owners seem to feel it is for entertainment purposes only. Monsieur Voltaire (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 15:36, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Why have I never heard of him?
I was really shocked to see this article. I thought I knew a lot about the war but I've never heard of this guy. Midsummersday (talk) 18:31, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I think you are far from alone in this regard. Hawkeye7   (discuss)  20:03, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Faulty forecasts retrospective:
 * https://quotefancy.com/william-d-leahy-quotes
 * GeoVenturing (talk) 23:11, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

Date format
I am proposing that the date format of this article be changed to the US military (dmy) format per MOS:MILFORMAT. Hawkeye7  (discuss)  00:59, 11 June 2024 (UTC)


 * The reason that it is currently mdy is that this was the date format that the article was created with and I conformed to the original style (per MOS:DATERET) when I overhauled the article to bring it to featured. However, that puts the article at odds with the usual military dmy style prescribed in the MOS (MOS:MILFORMAT) and similar articles on other admirals like Ernest J. King, which use dmy format. Therefore, I am see king consensus to change the article style. Hawkeye7   (discuss)  01:32, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
 * DMY. Mztourist (talk) 02:52, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
 * DMY. It is consistent with MOS:MILFORMAT. Ifly6 (talk) 04:28, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
 * DMY. MOS:MILFORMAT is straightforward on this issue. biographical articles related to the modern US military, should use day-before-month. Ckfasdf (talk) 05:46, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
 * DMY, per proposal. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 07:43, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
 * DMY per MOS:MILFORMAT. -- Georgia Army Vet Contribs Talk 13:16, 11 June 2024 (UTC)


 * ✅ Hawkeye7   (discuss)  19:38, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

"... although the vessel only made it as far as the Azores before breaking down."
This line, written about a USS Constellation (1854) cruise that I presume happened after Leahy became a cadet in 1893, is not mentioned in Constellation's article. That article says:

"In September 1892, Constellation recommissioned for another unusual duty, to help assemble works of art in Gibraltar for the World's Columbian Exposition. During the cruise, she made stops in Naples, Italy and Le Havre, France, before returning to New York in February 1893. Another training cruise to Gibraltar followed on 3 June and ended on 29 August. She was then transferred to Annapolis, where she was decommissioned on 2 September before being towed to Norfolk for repairs."

Which one is correct? Could Leahy's biographer have been mistaken (this article), or did DANFS omit mentioning the breakdown (that article)? Ed [talk] [OMT] 03:24, 11 June 2024 (UTC)


 * The source says (p. 9):"The cruise was supposed to last all summer, taking the young crewmen to Europe and back to learn their craft. Yet the Constellation was in a sorry state, smelly and leaky, and she broke down before reaching Europe. The crew had to stop in the Azores before the old ship could be made right to sail to America."


 * It doesn't cite a source unfortunately. Hawkeye7   (discuss)  06:58, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I did some additional digging, and it looks like the ship was damaged in Atlantic storms while on that mid-year cruise to Europe. From The Admirals (no page indicated on Google Books, but I assume it's in the Leahy chapter):


 * "Constellation was scheduled to take the green-gilled cadets all the way to Europe, but stormy seas in the mid-Atlantic diverted the ship first to the Azores and then to the Madeira Islands for repairs. By the time the work was done, Constellation stood westward to return to Annapolis for the start of the academic year."


 * The lack of a page number is a bummer. USNI adds "The Constellation's last summer practice cruise for midshipmen extended to the Azores and Madeira. Upon her return to Annapolis ..." Ed [talk] [OMT] 04:19, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I have a copy of The Admirals. The quotation is on pages 16 to 17. (The page break occurs after "westward to".) It is indeed the Leahy chapter (chapter 1). No references however. Hawkeye7   (discuss)  07:41, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
 * The Lucky Bag describes the storms.  Hawkeye7   (discuss)  07:42, 12 June 2024 (UTC)