Talk:William J. Perry

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The Secdef belongs here because "Willam Perry" + "secretary of defense" 18000 more google hits than "Willam Perry" + football. --Jiang 03:08, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * That may have been true in 2004, but is no longer the case. "William Perry" +"Secretary of Defense" results in 160,000 hits on Google. "William Perry" +"Chicago Bears" (which is necessary because it eliminates other players named William Perry) is 226,000. "William Perry" +"football" is 488,000. I think this deserves to be revisited, though I don't know how to make it so. JeffHCross (talk) 00:22, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Is this entry a joke?
"Applying strong pressure..." How on Earth can someone talk about Perry without ever mentioning the NATO bombing of Bosnia????????????????????? Can't the author or the reviewers be more manipulative and/or ignorant?????????????

128.220.159.75 17:59, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

There are serious facutal errors here. The F-18 fighter costs substantially less to operate than the F-14 it replaced, and the Army has not grounded the Apache helicopters; they fly combat missions every day in Afghanistan and Iraq. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.104.99.94 (talk) 18:03, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Who's the Devil that thought it would be funny to not add any references?
Who are you, and why did you do this? This page is an embarrassment to Wikipedia. Whoever did this sick joke should be banned from editing anything for life. I will only to add references because I love you Wikipedia, but who ever wrote this, you're the devil.

External link to interview on nuclear policy?
Would an interview with William Perry from 1987 be useful here as an external link? Focus of conversation is nuclear weapons policy. http://openvault.wgbh.org/catalog/V_8A3D886B287A4B0E8FE80C8412C4FFF8 (I helped with the site, so it would be conflict of interest for me to just add it.) Mccallucc (talk) 16:53, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

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PhD in Mathematics
How can we find out who Sec'y Perry's Doctoral advisor was? There is a project to keep track of the "genealogy" of all PhD mathematicians. Jayxmn (talk) 22:55, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

External links modified
Deleted a piece of opinion and quote from Paul Glastris inserted into the "Early life and career" section. The article is an opinion piece by Paul Glastris in a publication for which Paul Glastris is the editor in chief. The article asserts that William Perry has poor judgment about military hardware because he has no actual military experience, claiming his only military experience is as a contractor or at a desk in Washington. The opinion piece asserts that William Perry was personally responsible for a string of military boondoggles while serving as Secretary of Defense. I checked the first of these, the Apache Helicoter. Based on the timeline it is impossible that William Perry has more than a bit part in bringing that project into being.174.100.201.44 (talk) 14:15, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

COI/POV violation
Hi, I removed some biased wording today and then took a look in the edit history and noticed several edits by "DCPerry". This user has added content to this page several times over the years and so I'm not sure if the page deserves a COI warning at the beginning?

Apathyash (talk) 00:11, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Requested move 2 January 2022

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

The result of the move request was: Consensus to move the secretary to William J. Perry and the dab page to primary. (t · c)  buidhe  10:37, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

– no clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC per page views Joeykai (talk) 08:39, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
 * William Perry → William Perry (Secretary of Defense)
 * William Perry (disambiguation) → William Perry
 * Strong support the footballer has 32,127 views compared with only 2,533 for the Secretary of Defense.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 09:51, 2 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Support Personally, I feel that a former secretary of state who still works in the public sphere has longer "long-term significance" than a football player. However, I reviewed the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC guidelines in order to evaluate this more fairly.
 * - Per page views- Clearly the football player.


 * - What Links Here- The football player has 881 to the SoS's 408. So the football player.


 * - Googling the term- The football player shows up first in results.


 * Based on this information, it does appear to me that "William Perry" should go to the football player. Apathyash (talk) 20:39, 2 January 2022 (UTC)


 * I have an additional comment though. Could we move "William Perry" (the current one, the secretary of state) to "William J. Perry"? A google search shows that Perry publishes articles/books under the name William J Perry and his current philanthropic project is the "William J Perry Project", so I believe by WP:Naming conventions (people), we could have the secretary of state be moved to "William J Perry". Apathyash (talk) 20:39, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Move back to William J. Perry (the article's original title, and still a redirect) per above comment and WP:NATURAL. William "Refrigerator" Perry is the primary topic. As second choice, move as proposed. Station1 (talk) 04:30, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment: William J. Perry may be a good idea. Note that WP:NCPDAB says to avoid using disambiguators that are capitalized. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 16:12, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose as proposed. Using a single post as a disambiguator is never a good idea. William J. Perry or William Perry (government official) would be acceptable. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:10, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Move to William J. Perry per WP:NATURALDISAMBIGUATION and the rationale in Apathyash's comment. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 15:03, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Move to William J. Perry. I agree with Apathyash that he generally writes/publishes under that name, and sources commonly use it too. Adumbrativus (talk) 09:41, 9 January 2022 (UTC)