Talk:William L. Armstrong

Wikification
What exactly needs wikifying here? It looks pretty good to me. Nathanww 22:39, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

BLP status change
Due to the death of this person, the BLP status of this article has changed. This does not mean that unsourced material that would contravene the Biography of Living Persons rules can be added to this article Capitalistroadster (talk) 23:33, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

Requested move 9 November 2017

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The result of the move request was: moved per consensus. — usernamekiran (talk)  17:15, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

– WP:COMMONNAME and WP:INITS. US Senator Armstrong was most commonly known as "Bill", as demonstrated by the obituaries by Westword and The Denver Post. In contrast, The Washington Post uses "William L. Armstrong" more out of formality, and the Associated Press obituary headline uses "William Armstrong".
 * William L. Armstrong → Bill Armstrong (Colorado politician)
 * Bill Armstrong (politician) → Bill Armstrong (New South Wales politician)
 * William Armstrong (Australian politician) → William Armstrong (Queensland politician)
 * William Armstrong (1795–1847) → William Armstrong (Tennessee politician)
 * William Armstrong (Virginia) → William Armstrong (Virginia politician)
 * William H. Armstrong (assemblyman) → William H. Armstrong (politician)

WP:INITS guideline states in part: "Adding given names, or their abbreviations, merely for disambiguation purposes (if that format of the name is not commonly used to refer to the person) is not advised." That is why the page about US Senator Alan Simpson was moved away from the Alan K. Simpson name space per a recent discussion; ditto with US congressman Tim Murphy's page being moved from Timothy F. Murphy.

Also, MOS:IDENTITY - The Denver Post obituary includes a photo from a campaign rally where Armstrong is standing in front of a sign saying "Bill Armstrong for Senate". Colorado Christian University, for which Armstrong was president, uses "Bill" in its memorial page.

Checking the William Armstrong disambiguation page I see two Australian politicians named Bill or William Armstrong. So I am proposing disambiguations by Austrailan province. Also, I am requesting that other William Armstrong pages have a uniform naming format. Arbor to SJ (talk) 21:58, 9 November 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 22:30, 16 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Obligatory support of the second- the senator was known as Bill, so that current parenthetical is not adequate. Weak support the original proposal. Neutral to weak oppose on all others. Red Slash 15:32, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Move William L. Armstrong to Bill Armstrong (American politician). Don't need to specify the state if there's only one (the others weren't known as Bill). Move Bill Armstrong (politician) to Bill Armstrong (Australian politician). Likewise. Move William H. Armstrong (assemblyman) to William H. Armstrong (Wisconsin politician). William Hepburn Armstrong was also a politician. But we use "[Foo] politician" to refer to all politicians if possible; we would only use titles like "assemblyman" if there was no alternative. Support all others. We don't generally use "Virginia" to disambiguate people from Virginia. We don't usually use dates unless there's no alternative. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:37, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Good idea, since none of the other American politicians named William Armstrong go by "Bill". Arbor to SJ (talk) 16:44, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Support move. A significant number of editors have, in the past, tried to avoid the "ugliness" of parenthetical disambiguation by forcing all but the most very famous American politicians to full-name titles instead of common-name-with-dab — but that's not how our articles are supposed to be named, and the middle initial doesn't help anybody find the article if they don't already know it. Bearcat (talk) 21:53, 17 November 2017 (UTC)


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Requested move 14 August 2018

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The result of the move request was: moved as requested per the discussion below. Dekimasu よ! 16:47, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Bill Armstrong (American politician) → William L. Armstrong – I realize that my previous move request was a mistake, because I found that "William" is the far more common name for this US Senator from Colorado than Bill, based on the following evidence.
 * The Vanderbilt Television News Archive shows far more results for "William Armstrong" senator (55) than "Bill Armstrong" senator (3). This means that during his political career, the three major US evening news shows (ABC World News Tonight, CBS Evening News, and NBC Nightly News) preferred to use "William Armstrong" in the on-screen chryons and story content.
 * C-SPAN consistently used "Sen. William Armstrong" in its on-screen chyrons when Armstrong was in the Senate.
 * Google shows nearly three times as many uses of "William" than "Bill" - there are 11.5k results for "Bill Armstrong" Colorado senator, vs. 17k for "William Armstrong" Colorado senator and 16k for "William L. Armstrong" Colorado senator.
 * Furthermore, national publications The New York Times and The Washington Post have consistently used "William L. Armstrong" in stories whether during his career (1979 WaPo, 1983 NYT, 1987 NYT, 1988 WaPo, 1989 NYT) or in their obituaries ("William L. Armstrong, a Colorado news media executive who became a strong conservative voice in the United States Senate, died on Tuesday" (NYT); "William L. Armstrong, Republican senator from Colorado, dies at 79" (WaPo)
 * Scholarly works also use "William" more often, such as the 1993 textbook Colorado Politics & Government: Governing the Centennial State.
 * Because "William L. Armstrong" has nearly as many online search results related to the senator as just plain "William Armstrong", WP:NATURALDIS can also apply.

While the senator might have been informally known as "Bill" within his home state of Colorado, throughout the US he was better known as "William". Arbor to SJ (talk) 04:14, 14 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Support Per nom — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.71.249.229 (talk) 17:22, 16 August 2018 (UTC)


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Add in Wife's Name
This is a minor edit to the last sentence of the first paragraph.

"He is survived by his wife Ellen M. Eaton and two children, Wil Armstrong and Annie Sellman." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2019crisissimus2 (talk • contribs) 14:30, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
 * , you should read these instructions - this isn't a formatted edit request, so other editors are unlikely to see it in a timely manner. I only saw it because of the discussion we had on you talk page. Is there a published source we could use to support this information? (Please also address the last question I asked on your talk page). Girth Summit  (blether)  10:25, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Edit Request: Add in election results
See the section below for the reply to this COI edit request.

Hello, I hope you're doing well :-), in reference to adding in the sentence below. Armstrong's multiple obituaries has his wife is listed. Please see the citation below to confirm this is okay. "He is survived by his wife Ellen M. Eaton and two children, Wil Armstrong and Annie Sellman."

1984
--2019crisissimus2 (talk) 21:09, 27 April 2020 (UTC) 2019crisissimus2 (talk) 20:49, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2019crisissimus2 (talk • contribs) 17:04, April 23, 2020 (UTC)
 * Symbol wait.svg On hold No references were provided for the 1978/1884 US. Senate election in Colorado. Please provide a source for them and then change to . Thank you. &#123;&#123;replyto&#125;&#125; Can I Log In 's   (talk) page 21:32, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

Additional Citations for Election Results
Hello there Can I Log In 's Thanks for the advice about making sure I sign my pages/ edit requests. I went on ahead and signed the last two requests I made and I'll make sure I keep doing that in the future. As for the two missing citations under the 1978 and 1984 elections, I added those too. Please check them out and let me know what you think! 2019crisissimus2 (talk) 21:15, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm almost done verifying, but can you explain what the majority is in the senate election results and where that is in the source provided? &#123;&#123;replyto&#125;&#125; Can I Log In 's  (talk) page 22:33, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Implemented with some stuff omitted. The rounding had some problems, like bad round up/down, and rounding not adding up to 100%. Here are the changes (from my sandbox). &#123;&#123;replyto&#125;&#125; Can I Log In 's  (talk) page 23:51, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Hello there Can I Log In 's I'm a fan of your revisions. Let go forward with implementing your edits! As far as the majority stuff, I literally copied the tables from this already existing page. I didn't do anything else to it. 1984 United States Senate election in Colorado it was also here, 1978 United States Senate elections Colorado. If you want, after you put up these tables, I can put these more accurate tables on the original pages I found them from. Also, how do you feel about adding the wife's name? It is an earlier request that was oddly denied. Talk soon, thanks for being so communicative :-) 2019crisissimus2 (talk) 14:00, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Edit Request: Add in information and Citations for Academic Career Section
Hello, I want to add in the following citations that provide more facts to Senator Armstrong's academic career. The following paragraph is mostly already reflected on the current webpage. I am hoping you'll read through, verify, and add the following citations.

"Armstrong was President of Colorado Christian University for 10 years. He started that position in 2006 through the time of his death in 2016. Armstrong implemented a core curriculum that focused heavily on free-market philosophy and a constructionist view of the Constitution to go with the school’s Christian mission. Colorado Christian University saw on-campus enrollment jump from roughly 800 students to more than 1,200. Revenue tripled to nearly $100 million. Armstrong founded the Centennial Institute—a Colorado Christian University-based conservative think tank in 2009 that also created scholarships for students. The Centennial Institute and Colorado Christian University have organized the Western Conservative Summit, an annual conference of influential U.S. conservatives, held in Denver, Colorado, since 2010. During his tenure as president, Armstrong became well known for his catchphrase "Jesus, Jesus, Jesus." His involvement in Christian organizations and the national evangelical movement became a notable aspect of his legacy and his impact on others. While President, he supported the creation of “The Calling” ministry in 2010. Although he eventually held eight honorary degrees, he never finished college. "

Please let me know if you have any questions/ critiques of this request. Happy to chat. 2019crisissimus2 (talk) 19:59, 12 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Can you please provide the sources for each statement you have made above as we have a lot of requests and we cannot read every article. You also need to let us know what needs to be replaced or where to put the new information. Galendalia Talk to me CVU Graduate 19:05, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I have added the missing reftalk. If this is the same as the request below, then it merely consists of adding the citations (properly formatted, see my little tutorial on the matter). Do make sure that they are not already in. Cheers, RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 19:55, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , can you explain why you have a conflict of interest? — Yours, Berrely  • Talk∕Contribs 10:40, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

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Hello all, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Galendalia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RandomCanadian I hope you guys are doing well. I want to revisit adding these citations to the academic career section. If I understood you all correctly, you all would like me to update the sources to the proper formatting and also be explicit in where the new sentences and citations should go. Of course, please let me know if I'm mistaken.

So what I have done is copy and paste the current paragraph as it is and listed each sentence. Right below it, I will have, " proposed changes" with the same sentences already present on the page and the sentence to be added alongside their proper citations.

Bold text CURRENT PARAGRAPH, AS IT, UNDER 'ACADEMIC CAREER' SECTION :

1. Armstrong was President of Colorado Christian University at the time of his death, having served in that position since 2006.

2. During his tenure as president, Armstrong became well known for his catchphrase "Jesus, Jesus, Jesus."

3. His involvement in Christian organizations and the national evangelical movement became a notable aspect of his legacy and his impact on others. While President, he supported the creation of “The Calling” ministry in 2010.[71] Although he eventually held eight honorary degrees, he never finished college.[72]

''For a total of 3 sentences in the current academic career section ''

Bold text PROPOSED CHANGES WITH ADDED CITATIONS

1. Armstrong was President of Colorado Christian University at the time of his death, having served in that position since 2006.

ADD THIS SENTENCE: Armstrong implemented a core curriculum that focused heavily on free-market philosophy and a constructionist view of the Constitution to go with the school’s Christian mission.

ADD THIS SENTENCE: Colorado Christian University saw on-campus enrollment jump from roughly 800 students to more than 1,200. Revenue tripled to nearly $100 million.

ADD THIS SENTENCE: Armstrong founded the Centennial Institute—a Christian Colorado University-based conservative think tank in 2009 that also created scholarships for students. The Centennial Institute and Colorado Christian University have organized the Western Conservative Summit, an annual conference of influential U.S. conservatives, held in Denver, Colorado, since 2010.

2. During his tenure as president, Armstrong became well known for his catchphrase "Jesus, Jesus, Jesus."

3. His involvement in Christian organizations and the national evangelical movement became a notable aspect of his legacy and his impact on others. While President, he supported the creation of “The Calling” ministry in 2010.[71] Although he eventually held eight honorary degrees, he never finished college.[72]

''For a total of 6 sentences with 3 new sentences added along with their proper citation. '' Please let me know if you all have any questions, as always, happy to discuss.2019crisissimus2 (talk) 22:30, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Adding in Citations to Existing Text
Explanation of issue: There are no issues with the current language on the page. I am just adding citations to improve the page's credibility. The sentences below start from the top of the Wikipedia page to the bottom and are simply copy-and-pasted. My contribution is citations.

'''Information to be added: '''

1. He is survived by his wife Ellen M. Eaton and two children, Wil Armstrong and Annie Sellman.

2. William L. Armstrong was born in Fremont, Nebraska, and graduated from Lincoln Northeast High School

3. His maternal grandfather was a Presbyterian minister. , and his great-great-uncle, Alexander Majors, was the co-founder of the Pony Express , and of the famous Central Overland California and Pike's Peak Express Company , the main stagecoach line that connected St. Joseph, Missouri, Denver, and Salt Lake City. Vol. 2. Board of County Commissioners, Adams County.

4. Armstrong became fascinated as a child with radio and was determined to get into the business.

5. He hired Armstrong at KOWH in Omaha, Nebraska, then transferred him to WTIX in New Orleans, where he became America's first teenage Top 40 disc jockey. While there, he briefly attended Tulane University.

6. He also was president of Ambassador Media Corporation.

7. In 1962, Armstrong married Ellen M. Eaton and became the youngest (at that time) person ever elected to the Colorado House of Representatives, where he served one term.

8. In 1972, Armstrong was elected to the U.S. Congress from the new fifth district.

9. He was re-elected to the 94th and 95th Congresses.

10. In 1978, Armstrong was elected to the U.S. Senate, defeating former astronaut Jack Swigert in the GOP primary in September, and Democratic incumbent Floyd Haskell in November.

11. He was the chairman of the Republican Policy Committee (99th through 101st Congresses) ; he opted to retire and did not seek reelection in 1990.

12. In February 1982, Senator Armstrong, alongside Congressman Carlos Moorhead sponsored the resolution S.J. Res 165 authorizing and requesting the President to proclaim 1983 as the “Year of the Bible" . President Ronald Reagan implemented the resolution as Public Law 97-280.

13. Armstrong co-chaired on the newly created National Committee.

14. He chaired the Senate Finance Subcommittee on Social Security and served on the National Commission on Social Security Reform , which was created to find solutions to the long-term financing of the program. He was the only Commission member to vote against its final 1983 report because it failed to include any change in the eligible retirement age, though his view prevailed in the final legislation enacted by Congress.

15. During his time in office, Senator Armstrong worked to reform welfare.

16. The bill also extended welfare benefits for unemployed 2-parent families.

17. One of Armstrong’s symbolic achievements in the Senate was the Korean War Veterans Memorial in Washington, D.C.

18. he participated in numerous fund-raising efforts over the next decade, working closely with long-time friend and Korean War veteran, Congressman Mike McKevitt.

19. The bill passed and was sent to the President just three days before Armstrong’s farewell speech to the Senate.

20. He was also noted in the early 1980s for sponsorship of a landmark soil conservation measure known as the “Sodbuster bill,” which denied federal subsidies for plowing fragile grasslands. It was adopted as part of the 1985 Farm Bill.

I welcome any comments and questions on the citations. Again, for anyone unfamiliar with this topic, these sentences are already apart of William L. Armstrong's Wikipedia page, I have just provided citations for sentences that weren't previously cited. Thank you :-) 2019crisissimus2 (talk) 03:25, 13 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Pictogram voting question.svg Question: Regarding some numbers which I will say no to (i.e. I'll change the text since it's already in): 1 WP:SURVIVEDBY. 6 This organisation does not appear to be notable so not sure it should be mentioned. For the reminder: it seems fine, would you mind properly formatting the references using cite web or cite news (depending on what exactly you're citing? Thanks, RandomCanadian (talk | contribs) 20:16, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

RandomCanadian Hey there. Thank you fo your changes and comments. In regards to your citation request, I completed it on part one. Is this what you want for every citation? It seems a little odd, but if that's what you are requesting, I'll write it up. Also, I looked on the William L. Armstrong and I didn't see the approved changes listed. Please let me know, talk soon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2019crisissimus2 (talk • contribs) 16:59, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, that is what I'm talking about (albeit with some minor changes - see above). Using cite templates is good because it ensures a consistent formatting style (see WP:CITESTYLE, which suggests that it is helpful to "[improve] existing citations by adding missing information, such as by replacing bare URLs with full bibliographic citations: an improvement because it aids verifiability, and fights linkrot;". Now regarding what you said: I have removed no. 1 because it reads like an obituary and the name of his wife and children are not relevant encyclopedic information (unless they are notable in their own right). No. 6 is already in the article and cited to multiple sources, and it already includes the one you mention. Cheers, RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 19:41, 20 May 2020 (UTC)


 * RandomCanadian Thank you for your support in this! I do see why the format strengthens the page and the ciations. As requested, they are all now in this format! 2019crisissimus2 (talk) 17:02, 28 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Ok thanks, I'll get around to doing this shortly. Thanks, RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 17:14, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Ok, I'm done. Here's a short list of what was done and what was not: As a follow up: do you have any sources for the relatives mentioned, since this is not given directly in what you gave (i.e., none of the sources that I can check say that Alexander Majors was the great-great-uncle of Armstrong)? Oh, I also messed with the references in your post if you don't mind as I was updating to fix some errors, minor changes overall Thanks, RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 00:20, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ : 2 3 (though I couldn't find anything in the sources saying these were relatives, but nevertheless) 4 5 7 11 15 18 19
 * ❌ : 8 (the source you gave was Wikipedia, we can't do WP:CIRCULAR sourcing, however this is cited in some of the newspapers you give, but I'll bother with finding which one it was later, anyway not an emergency) 13 (dead link, can't verify)
 * ✔️ (i.e. those sources were already in) : 6 9 10 14 16 20 and 1 (as explained previously, I reworded the sentence, and from what I see there are already sources)
 * : 12 (Citation to Wikipedia: I cited a different one) 17 (I added the source but I also reworded the sentence)

Hello, :RandomCanadian I hope you're doing well. Thank you first off all for your support in getting these edits done. I'm glad we've been able to work through this and I've learned a lot about Wikipedia in the process. To answer your question from above regarding Alexander Majors, the only online documentation I have is through Ancestry.com. Since you need an account to access the information in there, I figured I couldn't use it as a source. Is that true? I have a seperate question I'd like your help on. There is a disclaimer at the top of the page mentioning a potential problem with a COI editor. That was put up quite some time ago as I was still navigating the process. Now that you can see I am working through the process correctly, and I have proven not to be a problem, I am wondering what the process or timeframe would be to have that removed? 2019crisissimus2 (talk) 13:38, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
 * The problem with Ancestry.com is not so much registration (see WP:PAYWALL for why that is not a major problem) as it is that some of the content is user-generated and as such unacceptable. See Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources for links to prior discussions on the topic. There are some exceptions which can be made if the content there is traceable directly to appropriate primary sources and is used to make a simple statement of fact (such as that he was the great-great-uncle of Bill Armstrong). Regarding the disclaimer at the top, I could theoretically remove it but since I was involved with this request I'd rather let another pair of eyes check up on this. I can't give a deadline for that (since Wikipedia is a volunteer project), but if you insist I can maybe make a post at the relevant noticeboard for somebody to check this. Thanks, RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 14:04, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Edit Request: Add Police Reform Legislation Under Political Career Section
Please add in the following information under the political career section of the page & place after the sentence, "He was also noted in the early 1980s for sponsorship of a landmark soil conservation measure known as the “Sodbuster bill,”[50][51] which denied federal subsidies for plowing fragile grasslands. It was adopted as part of the 1985 Farm Bill."

On September 19, 1989, Senator Armstrong introduced an amendment to the 1990 Housing and Urban Development (HUD) Appropriations Bill in response to several incidents of abusive police arrests of protesters from Operation Rescue. The amendment blocked all Community Development Grants and Community Planning Grants "to any municipality that fails to adopt and enforce a policy prohibiting the use of excessive force by law enforcement agencies within the jurisdiction of the municipality against any individuals engaged in non-violent civil rights demonstrations."

Sen. Armstrong spoke alongside Senator John Heinz, Senator Jake Garn, and Senator Arlen Specter and said, "When this problem first came to my attention, I greeted it with substantial skepticism, because the law enforcement officers with whom I come in contact... are the very model and soul of courtesy. It is completely unthinkable to every one of us, completely beyond our experience, that a police officer would engage in the kind of brutal treatment that we would ordinarily think of and associate in our minds with someplace like Nicaragua or a Third World Country... In a totalitarian regime, we expect that kind of treatment... We do not in the United States of America...A nation which holds the right of free speech and free assembly, and the right to petition, and to demonstrate in support of civil rights, cannot be indifferent to recent reports of excessive police brutality in connection with civil rights demonstrations."

The bill was accepted by the Democratic majority manager (Barbara Mikulski, D-MD), and adopted by a unanimous voice vote. It was later accepted by House conferees and signed into law by President George H.W. Bush in 1989.

Edit Request: Please Add Business & Chairman Information
At the bottom of the professional career section, please add the following sentences.

1. His business career included the chairmanship of three mortgage companies and of the Denver-based Oppenheimer Funds mutual funds group.

2. At the age of 53, Bill left the U.S. Senate and returned home to Colorado. In October of 1990, he purchased a small mortgage firm, Cherry Creek Mortgage Company, which grew quickly as a mortgage banking firm and was twice recognized as one of the 500 fastest-growing companies in America according to Inc. Magazine

2019crisissimus2 (talk) 15:14, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Edit Request: Please Add Sentence and Additional Sources on GI Bill Contributions
Please add the following details and citations under the Political Career header, and after the sentence, "In 1980, Armstrong actively worked to make GI Bill benefits permanent for U.S. military personnel.[28]"

He introduced S.25, the G.I. Bill of 1981, to permanently reinstate the G.I. Bill, which Congress had terminated in 1976. It did not pass. He introduced the 1983 version, called the Veterans Educational Assistance Act, S.691. It was a companion measure to the House version sponsored by Chairman Sonny Montgomery (D-FL, Chairman of the Veterans Affais Committee). The House and Senate versions were combined, and enacted as an amendment to the Defense Authorization Act of 1985.

Edit Request: Please Add Information on Legislation
Hello, under the political career section, please add the following information as the last sentence in the section.

In August 1990, Senator Armstrong introduced S.Con.Res.144 to the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations. This called for the United States to give the high priority to accounting for Americans still missing or unaccounted for in Southeast Asia, ensure cooperation with Vietnam and Laos to achieve credible answers for the families of such Americans, and heighten public awareness to Americans on the issue.

This measure was in support of people wanting to leave Russia for being persecuted. The "Refuseniks" were denied right to leave because of their religion. This issue impacted the safety of American journalists abroad. Senator Armstrong made speeches about this across the nation and the Catholic League gave him the Justice Joseph Story Freedom Award, 1988 2019crisissimus2 (talk) 15:14, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Edit Request: Please Add C-Span Legislation
Hello, I hope you're doing well. I am requesting that you add the following information about Senator Armstrong's interview in support of the creation of C-Span as well as his legislative contribution. Please consider putting this information ABOVE the following sentence in the Political Section, "In 1983, Armstrong chaired the Senate Finance Subcommittee on Social Security,[32]" The majority of this information is actually directly copied and pasted from the C-Span Wikipedia page under the history section.

Armstrong strongly supported bringing TV cameras into the halls of Congress, and immediately began advocating the same in the Senate. C-SPAN began full-time operations on September 14, 1982. After C-SPAN was created and began proceedings of the House of Representatives, the Senate wanted the same. After two years of discussion, Majority Leader Howard Baker introduced a resolution to allow cameras into the Senate, but it went nowhere. By 1986, Senator William L. Armstrong convinced his colleagues to allow cameras onto the Senate floor.

The second C-SPAN channel, C-SPAN2, followed on June 2, 1986 when the U.S. Senate permitted itself to be televised. It began full-time operations on January 5, 1987.

In an interview with C-Span, he describes the process in the following way “I don’t have any doubt that at some point or the other the Senate would have permitted televising, but I made up my mind at one point that I was going to raise that issue day after day and week after week; in fact, I think I must have raised it at the Tuesday Republican luncheon every week for a couple of years, and just kept bringing it up, and bringing it up, and bringing it up, and it finally happened – I’m proud of it.” Many Senators had opposed live TV coverage, arguing that it would change the nature of their deliberations and complicate the process of government. “People have a right to see what’s going on,” he said. “This is an institution that exists to serve the people of the country, and I think it’s helpful to the people of the country to see if it works, to see when we’re wise, which is occasionally, and when we’re foolish, which is much of the time.” He believed the end result made the Senate “a more important part of the thought life of the country.” 2019crisissimus2 (talk) 15:13, 9 July 2020 (UTC)