Talk:William Rath

Attribution
Text and references copied from William Rath to James Ludington, See former article's history for a list of contributors. 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 17:56, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Text and references copied from James Ludington to William Rath, See former article's history for a list of contributors.  7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 18:42, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Reference copied from William Rath to Warren Antoine Cartier, See former article's history for a list of contributors.  7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 20:50, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

Web Archiving requested
Would somebody please archive the following link to the web archive wayback mmachine:

I am not sure, but the publisher may be Advantage Business Media, and they are in bankruptcy. So I worry about the stability of this page. 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 13:55, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ --AntiCompositeNumber (talk) 15:51, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Gracia <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 16:49, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

Cause of death
Find a Grave says he died from Angina pectoris. Trying to find a WP:RS for that is difficult. Old newspaper obituary? <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 18:36, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
 * An obituary William Rath, Public Spririted Citizen, is Called to the Beyond Ludington Daily News appears here. I can't read it, however.  The second page of the obit is missing.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 12:25, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
 * <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 19:21, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Cemetery founder
i know that in general "Find a Grave" is not considered a "reliable source." I know the statement, even as I disagree with it. But here, policy gives way to common sense. Who are you going to believe, the policy or your lying eyes? Rath is the founder of the Cartier Park Cemetery in Ludington. William Albert L. Rath at Find a grave <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 12:56, 21 September 2019 (UTC)


 * That photograph does not prove that, and even if it did, does not indicate the significance of that claim to the subject. Nikkimaria (talk) 13:44, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
 * It certainly proves that. Res ipsa loquitor  He founded it, which indicates its significance. There is no question of his notability.  It was another of his many accomplishments.  We will have to agree to disagree.  Cheers.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 13:54, 21 September 2019 (UTC)


 * It proves that there is an arch there with the name Wm Rath. That is not in itself proof that he was the founder of the cemetery, nor that founding a cemetery is a significant accomplishment. Nikkimaria (talk) 16:36, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Ah yes. The "name 'Wm Rath'" on that cast iron gateway is adventitious and proves nothing. Your lack of common sense only proves how uncommon it is.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 12:42, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

Ref error

 * Hello or 7&6=thirteen, can you please look at the ref at "His estate was the subject of two lawsuits"? I've tried to fix by adding opening < but it throws a new error I can't work out. Thanks, JennyOz (talk) 20:03, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Fixed.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:13, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

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Cabot 2005
, do you have: Sandy Georgia (Talk)  19:35, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Cabot, James L. (2005). Ludington: 1830–1930 (Paperback). Images of America. Charleston, South Carolina: Arcadia Publishing. ISBN 0-7385-3951-1.
 * Ludington's Carferries: The Rise, Decline & Rebirth of a Great Lakes Fleet. Ludington Daily News. 1997. p. 11. ASIN B000FKPTF6.


 * I was able to read the Cabot book at page 43 here (DC also included page 42, but I didn't see anything relevant on it so I took it out), page 68 here, and page 104 here. None of them presented copyvio issues, and these mentions of Rath are incidental to most of the book's contents so I don't think there's a danger of copyvio from other pages.  And I was able to read enough of the Carferries volume at a page 11 snippet here to verify that what he wrote was a summary of what the source said and borrowed no language.  And Rath is incidental to that work as well, so no greater danger of copyvio.  Wasted Time R (talk) 20:08, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Thx, WTR; I can use the ability to read Cabot on other articles. Sandy Georgia (Talk)  20:11, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

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