Talk:William Rehnquist/Archive 2

Strange Vandalism
I am experiencing something very strange. A vandal has inserted the phrase "we hate you all this site is now hacked we hate you all this site is now hacked" (which continues for several hundred more lines). However, I don't find the vandal's phrase when I go in to edit this article. No matter what I do, this vandalism will not disappear. I have reloaded the contents several times, searched the "edit this page" for the vandal's words and I can't find that phrase. I have waited about 10 minutes and reloaded, but this problem does not seem to go away. Is there some kind of problem with wikipedia, or it is just happening to me? -New user

There is also something very strange happening with the articles. If you type into the search box "Rehnquist" it takes you to a very different article than if you type in "William Rehnquist." Try it and you will see.

I don't know exactly why this is going on but it is truly strange and appears to be a premeditated attempt to have wikipedia researchers end up in the more benign "Rehnquist" page, than the more truthful "William Rehnquist" page.

I am asking that the administrators take a look at this and rectify the problem. - KR

Clinton Picture
The caption under the picture of Clinton's inauguration refers to it being from 1993. On the actual picture page, it refers to the picture being taken in 1997. I'm assuming the latter is more reliable, but I have no idea. It's certainly something that needs to be looked at and corrected at some point. --Doctorcherokee 14:01, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

Vandalism of article.
Two of my attempts to revert a vandalization of this article met with editing conflicts that themselves contained clear POV vanalization. I think we need the higher ups at Wikipedia to step in here.


 * No need to worry about vandalism. This article will now be closely watched for quite a while, and vandalism will be quickly reverted.   NoSeptember  04:11, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

How can we protect an article from edits when news is changing so quickly???


 * Admins can still edit the article. If you're not an admin, suggest an edit or addition here and it will be dealt with. Homey 13:12, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Note that the comment above, "How can we...", was by the image vandal, who is now banned. -  BanyanTree 15:21, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

Lock
We can't have the article locked when alot of news is going to be coming in. Please, I need a consensus to unlock the article. And fast. User:Bancroftian
 * I already have. It was locked for only about 60 seconds. &rarr;Raul654 04:08, September 4, 2005 (UTC)


 * Thanks alot, you did that fast. User:Bancroftian.

•• I had added a link critical of the late Mr. Rehnquist's role in upholding electoral Jim Crow laws as a critical counterpoint to the hagiography that passes for a 'neutral' position on Mr. Rehnquist's life's work to wit: http://www.commondreams.org/views/120200-101.htm. This was deemed a vandalistic act. I respectfully disagree unless this is to be considered WikiPravda. 24.68.101.224 20:45, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

Potential nominees
Is there an article somewhere about the potential nominees ?


 * Bush Supreme Court candidates NoSeptember  04:19, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

O'Connor
"The vacancy left by his death came less than two months after the retirement of Justice Sandra Day O'Connor"

O'Connor announced her retirement on July 1st so it was actually 2 months and 2 days later. User:129.123.104.6
 * Well, this is a wiki, so you can change it yourself. Just click the "edit this page" link at the top of the article. --pile0nadestalk 05:49, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

goodbye
i may not have agreed with him ideologically, but he was a great man, i have to admit it. he wasn't not a dna-altered clone like roberts is. rest in peace. -Nosaj56 13:04, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

Assistant Attorney General
Since the late Justice Rehnquist was never Attorney General, it would be better if the intro paragraph did not link to that position as if he had been. There either should be a redlink to the actual position or no wikilink at all. -Acjelen 14:35, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Before yesterday when the link was changed, this was a link to the Justice Department (the agency that employed him), this is my preference until an AAG article is created. NoSeptember  14:58, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

I have now created the article United States Assistant Attorney General. I may have missed some of the departments headed by AAG's. I invite someone to help me get the list right. NoSeptember 17:19, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

Unlock
When all this news is coming in it is vital that we do not have it locked. I would like to gain a general consensus to unlock it imeditatly. Bancroftian 14:36, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
 * I agree that long term locks on potentially active pages are not appropriate. A lock for an hour until a vandal loses interest is ok, I hope that this was the blocking admin's intent.  If the image file is being vandalized, then that should be locked instead.  Blocking the vandals is better than locking an active page.  NoSeptember  14:50, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
 * I have removed the page protection. User:Executioner12 has been hard banned and User:4.173.214.128 has been blocked for 48 hours.  He appears to be responsible for the spate of  image vandalism.  If there is more repeated vandalism, please list the vandal at WP:AIV. Cheers and happy editing,   BanyanTree 15:40, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

A new hope
I say good bye to the late chief justice and hope for a more liberal successor of him. May God bless America.203.82.48.54 15:28, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

Deep Throat
Is a whole paragraph really necessary, it seems like padding to make the article bigger, I say dump it. Stevenscollege 4/9/05

That took guts
It took a lot of courage...to die....in office...of cancer. I'm not sure how many folks would stay working like that to the very end under such situations. G-dspeed. 68.32.48.32 16:48, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

Courage?
It doesn't take courage to die in office - it takes hubris. This man should have retired after he found out he had cancer.

A Nazi?
Currently the last paragraph in the intro claims he was a "nazi". While this may be true, I think such a sensational statement MUST be cited. If not, it should be removed. Anyone disagree? WhiskeyMB 16:26, 4 September 2005 (UTC) mbonig Sept 4th 2005, 10:30am (GMT-7)

My rollback
I screwed up on the rollback. Sorry about that folks. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 21:48, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

Date of Death?
Born	October 1, 1924 Milwaukee, Wisconsin Died	September 3, 2038 Arlington, Virginia

this is what the box says... 2038?

Vandalism?
This exerpt--Evidence displayed in detail on liberal blogs and sites like democraticunderground [8] show the overwhelming case against Karl Rove, proving that he smothered Rehnquist with a pillow so he could pick a new right-wing extremist for the court to terrorize America's freedoms and take away a womens' right to choose for at least two decades.--should probably come out as well? Definitely POV problems, and no sources to support.

Middle Name
The confusion over Rhenquist's middle name appears to be cleared-up by a blog entry found via Google that cites a New York times article quoting a note that Rhenquist once wrote to his fellow Supreme Court justices. "I was once William D. (Donald) until I changed my middle name in high school to H (Hubbs — my grandmother's maiden name)." Unfortunately, I cannot access the pay-per-view NYT article for verification. Perhaps someone else has another way. 138.88.237.169 01:26, 5 September 2005 (UTC)


 * There's no confusion - MSNBC reported on this last night. He was born Donald, his mother didn't like it (she said it was too long and he'd never suceed with a name like that), and he later had it changed. &rarr;Raul654 01:28, September 5, 2005 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I was referring to the earlier confusion on Wikipedia that prompted a revert-skirmish. If you have an MSNBC source perhaps we can use that instead. 138.88.237.169 02:11, 5 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Bizarre. - Ta bu shi da yu 02:07, 5 September 2005 (UTC)


 * His grandmother was Anne Eliza Hubbs, who married Frederick Russell Peck. Through Peck, Rehnquist is a descendant of King Edward I of England. - Nunh-huh 01:35, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

Vandalism
Is this the most vandalised page ever? I reckon we should just block every IP that vandalises immediately for an hour. Just to make a point. - Ta bu shi da yu 02:09, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

"Rehnquist Court" article?
Ought there be a seperate article on The Rehnquist Court? -- BD2412 talk 02:11, 5 September 2005 (UTC)


 * I think there should be, but we should wait until there Rehnquist and O'Connor's replacements are confirmed. -GregAsche (talk) 23:57, September 8, 2005 (UTC)

Reference to Judge Roberts
I added a snippet on the nomination of Judge Roberts to replace Rehnquist. I imagine this being replaced by a short sentence if/when Roberts or another is confirmed stating that "Justice Rehnquist was succeeded as Chief Justice by [ e.g., John G. Roberts Jr.], formerly [ e.g. , a judge on the Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit]."

User:andrewrowe

interesting, how convenenient it is that rehnquist dies in the middle of the Katrina disaster. i suppose the majority of people won't be paying attention to John Roberts becoming cheif justice. could it be a conspiracy? are we living in an roman-esque era of assassinations of those high on the ladder? Will the conservative media use Katrina as a smokescreen? User:MattK

SOMEBODY (PRESUMABLY A REHNQUIST SUPPORTER - OR A CONSERVATIVE PERSON) ERASED SEVERAL ADDITIONS I MADE TO THIS ARTICLE - THE ADDITIONS - ALTHOUGH NEGATIVE IN SOME WAYS, ARE CLEARLY SUPPORTED AND I WILL KEEP ADDING THEM EVERY DAY!!

SPECIFICALLY, THE ADDITIONS ARE CONCERNING PLESSY v. FERGUSON AND REHNQUIST'S SENATE TESTIMONY. STOP ERASING THE ADDITIONS!!! IF YOU HAVE CONCERN REGARDING ADDITIONS THEN STATE YOUR REASON. OTHERWISE, STOP CENSORING WIKIPEDIA!

Lock this Page
I've seen several vandalizations by a user called Sunbox. It's disrespectful, its ridiculous, and shouldn't be done. We need to lock this page to prevent folks like Sunbox from doing stuff like he/she is.13:53, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

There is something of an incongruity here, the article is locked yet the current tag says that it is a current event that may change rapidly. Which is also somewhat strange since he is already dead and burried. There is unlikely to be much new in his story unless Skull and Bones decide to dig him up. --Gorgonzilla 21:02, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

I requested for unprotection. --ThomasK 21:17, September 9, 2005 (UTC)

The reason this page needed to be locked (at least for a while) because of some bizzare vandalization. Pictures of white lab rats? A group of teenage girls dancing? Some folks think things are funny, even when they're not. (This is a dead man we're talking about. Let's leave him alone now.)  I think this page should just remain locked for a short period of time, so that the vandals will forget about it and just wander off somewhere. 02:50, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

Rehnquist's drug habit
this current slate.com article points out that Rehnquist's dependence on painkillers was underreported in the media. the current wikipedia entry also greatly understates the degree and duration of this dependence http://www.slate.com/id/2125906/

(by anon, from main page where it didn't belong This link is Broken 02:55, 10 September 2005 (UTC))

Just because a journalist reports it doesn't make it true. Presumably the facts of the matter would have to be substantiated from several sources. I haven't done the research, but apparently neither has anyone else. The slate article above doesn't cite an exact date for the source article. There are several indicators of prejudice in the articles linked, including the "classic" uncomplimentary photo routine that would do The National Enquirer proud. Beware attempts to demonize public figures ...I believe that falls under the category of prejudice does it not?

Can we unlock this page?
Time to unlock this page now. --Harman18 08:45, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

I agree completely. This guy's in the news, so of course there will be a lot of vandalism. That isn't a good reason to protect. Unprotected. --Tony Sidaway Talk 10:03, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

Rehnquist's Picture
The main image of Rehnquist seems way too big. Could we make it a bit smaller perhaps? It reminds me of idol worship or something- quite vulgar really, how big it is.