Talk:William de Leybourne

Alt forms
There was a wiiiiiiiiiiiide range of forms of the name and his titles in Norman French and Medieval Latin. See the Wikidata list for the principal ones and the Gascon Rolls and Foedera for citations, as needed. — Llywelyn II   11:36, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Sources for future article expansion
More at the Gascon Rolls, Foed., and the Clowes work already listed. — Llywelyn II   11:59, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Date of appointment
(Ch. 1) clearly lists 8 March 1287 and the Latin form Admirallus Maris Angliae. Given that he also clearly states he was "described" as such "at the assembly at Bruges", it seems the Norman French accord dated in the Gascon Rolls to 8 March 1297 was actually meant instead.

(p. 322) clearly states the French form Admiral de la Mer du Roy d'Angleterre dated to 1294 but again mentions that's based on the Foedera, whose actual text appears to have been cleaned up into modern French and then misdated.

Actual dates, titles, and links to the Gascon Rolls and Foed. added. — Llywelyn II   23:40, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Additional titles
The article stated
 * In 1294 he was appointed captain of the King's Fleet gathered at Portsmouth and styled as Admiral of the South. The fleet was assembled to convoy Prince Edmund during the siege of Bayonne in Gascony, France. In the same year he was also appointed Admiral of the West and Admiral of the Irish Sea. He held both titles concurrently until 1306.

but, given that 1294 overlaps with an entirely different title in the sources and the hash other 18th/19th-century sources made of the guy's career and titles, I'll just leave those here until they've been fully checked and then slot them into the appropriate place in the corrected list of actual positions/titles. — Llywelyn II   23:45, 28 April 2024 (UTC)