Talk:William de Mandeville, 3rd Earl of Essex

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The title was not extinct at William's death in 1189; his heir was his aged aunt, Beatrice de Say neé Mandeville. She wished the Mandeville estates and the earldom to go to her only surviving son, Geoffrey de Say II. Geoffrey was to be the recipient, but the amount he was charged was too great and he fell behind on the payments. That gave Geoffrey Fitz Peter, married to Beatrice de Say, daughter of Geoffrey's deceased elder brother, an opportunity to claim the inheritance by right of his wife. He received the estates, and was later made earl of Essex by right of his wife. DeAragon 09:00, 16 June 2007 (UTC)