Talk:Willie Nelson/Archive 1

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Are you simply an idiot, or do go around intentionally twisting common usage to give you something to argue about. "Iconic" is exactly the correct term, and even you know it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.31.24.249 (talk) 05:15, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

September 2006 arrest
Psycoactive mushrooms are not "narcotic." A narcotic is a painkiller or depressent.

As for the 2nd hole: I saw it on TV but am having problems finding a picture of it. Anyway, here's an indication of how beat up the guitar is. And here's a brief description of the guitar and Willie's affection for it. --KQ

Just a peice of triva. It is claimed that Willie Nelson is one of the choosen few who claim to have smoked dope on the roof of the White House (with Billy Carter apparently) during the Carter administration. Truly a great honor!

I believe it was Chip Carter with whom Willie smoked on the roof of the White House.Merrystandish 20:34, 26 February 2007 (UTC)merrystandish

Cecil Teague/banditos/heidelburgh
Dose any of this ring a bell rumor has it you may know some of my family. Panhead,timpkin and my grandfather were good friends.

Jewish ancestry?
I once read that Willie Nelson is either Jewish or has Jewish ancestry. Can anyone confirm this?Flannel 09:50, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

I thought he was part Native American.
 * Could be the Jewish idea is confusion from The Chanukah Song, which mentions Willie's harmonica player. --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 02:18, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Link mistake to Ballad of Willie Nelson
After posting link to the song 'Ballad of Willie Nelson', I read that that was improper for wikipedia edits to link to one's own site - which I did. It said to suggest it here and IF another wants to post the external link, then and only then is it acceptable. The link is to http://hunkasaurus.com/ then click music, then click 30. There is no copyright conflict. Musea 02:31, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

The list of Willie's songs / the list of his gospel songs should be tidied up; some of those songs shouldn't be there, or there should be two lists of his best songs, one for the ones he wrote and one for the ones he covers. Written by http://localhost12.microsoft.com/willienelsonmicrosoft/user21.aspx This was written by a computer-bot.

Django Reinhardt as an influence
Reinhardt was an influence on Willie's approach to playing the guitar. His 1980's "Over The Rainbow" album (Columbia) was an acoustic swing effort meant to pay tribute to Reinhardt.

Pictures?
Does anyone have any pictures of Willy when he was younger and had red hair? So people know why he was called the Red Haired Stranger? Bcody 22:39, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

11trivia 08:47, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Martial arts
I noticed in an upcoming American Masters show on PBS, and from sources on the internet that Willie Nelson practices martial arts and Yoga. He has practiced Kung Fu for a long time, and he has a black belt in Tae Kwan Do.

Neutrality
Some things in the "Popular image" section do not seem neutral to me. Also there are parts that seem irrelevant or insubstantiated.

The entire article fails to explain the principle of artistic control that was at the heart of the "Outlaw Movement," a philosophy involving letting artists, not Nashville producers, control the music recorded. This was the same issue that set Waylon Jennings at odds with RCA Victor, which was also Willie's label from 1965-1972. Neither did well as recording artists until they wrested control from the producers and did it themselves. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.65.212.218 (talk) 12:35, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

"several million of his fellow Americans... would like to see the 73-year-old muscian-businessman-philanthropist-actor-environmentalist elected to the Presidency of the United States sometime in the near future" REally?

"admirable social and political activities" I realize I come from a conservative veiwpoint, but "admirable activities" is a normative statement, and not neutral.

"elderly, marijuana-smoking old-school cowboy-hippie troubadour" Again, pretty loaded words.

Well, he is elderly, and he does smoke weed. Old-school? Hard to dispute that. Cowboy-hippie? He's like the canonical ur-cowboy hippie. Troubador? Hell yeah. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.111.197.14 (talk) 06:36, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Place of birth
The intro says Willie was "born and raised in Abbott, Texas."

The next paragraph says he was "born on April 30, 1933 in Fort Worth, Texas, and raised in Abbot, Texas, about 60 miles south of Fort Worth."


 * Willie was born in Abbott, Texas. Also a little published, but well known fact, to Willie fans such as me, is that he was actually born on 29th April. I have the information on a video of Willie. The story, as he tells it is that for the first years of his life he beilived that his birthday was 29th, and celebrated it as such. But when he came to join the army, and needed to acquire a copy of his birth certificate, he found that the certificate gave his date of birth as the 30th. Assuming this was correct, for the next 30 years he celebrated his birthday on the 30th. Until an aged aunt put him right. She could tell him that she was there when he was born, several minutes before midnight, but the doctor didn't look at his watch until several minutes after midnight, and logged the date of birth as the 30th. Being Willie, and in true outlaw style, he now celebrates both days. This year he will celebrate his 75th birthday during a tour to Europe, and I have tickets to 2 shows, including front row seats at Hamar, Norway. Hopefully I will get to meet him personally again.Robbiework (talk) 23:12, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Leon Payne's real name...
is Le Payne. He has a daughter whose name is Myrtie Le Payne. S.K. (from Belgium) [[User:81.244.39.234|81.244.39.234

Willie the preacher ? In which phase did this take place?

Bold textWillie the preacher ? In which phase did this take place? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.81.178.115 (talk) 23:14, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Songs Section
I don't understand why there's a section of songs he sang; those songs are listed on the album pages. Songs he wrote would make a little more sense... ?? --Renice 00:04, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Films section
Why are most of the films commented out? I'm new at this and don't want to break anything. I was hoping to add 'Once Upon a Texas Train' and find it is there, but commented out. RobertTaylor21 (talk) 00:17, 5 December 2008 (UTC)


 * The article mentions Willie Nelson appearing in Bones. I have not found any fereence in IMDB to him acting in the serie. I do remember Billy Gibbons from ZZ Top appearing in bones though. Could it be a mixup? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.58.85.66 (talk) 14:08, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

A note about taxes
I deleted the label at the bottom of the article regarding "tax evader." That label is in my opinion entirely inappropriate here. In the United States, tax evasion is a crime defined at. The subject of this article has never even been accused of tax evasion, much less convicted of any such thing. Owing back taxes -- even lots of back taxes -- is not the same as tax evasion. Yours, Famspear 02:28, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Nelson Willie Countryman.jpg
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 * Done. Adam McMaster 11:22, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Phases and Stages.jpg
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 * Taken care of. Adam McMaster 11:21, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

electric Guitar
Willie also play electric guitar, but the article just says acoustic, (Trigger is a classical guitar by the way). heeres a picture Willies Electric Guitar —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moezzillas world (talk • contribs) 15:19, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Nelson's electric guitar "Trigger" is an amplified acoustic instrument. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.65.212.218 (talk) 12:32, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Willie Nelson teaming up with world idol winner
I have made a note ( under the Hard-Drivin' American troubadour section )of Willie Nelson teaming up with world idol winner Kurt Nilsen doing the duet " Lost Highway " in 2008. reached the top of the charts in Norway.Mortyman (talk) 04:36, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Category Listings
Why is Willie Nelson mention in this category at the bottom of his bio page?
 * "Categories: 9/11 conspiracy theorists" --12.34.246.77 (talk) 02:25, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Because he is: see "the Tao of Willie" if I remember what he wrote it in correctly, it may have been an insert for a box set. 130.160.222.175 (talk) 22:40, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

poet?
Lede says he is a poet, but article nowhere mentions any poetry written by him. Sounds like fluff. If it can't be sourced, it should be deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.163.106.72 (talk) 16:11, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Moved from article
Did they leave Texas or did they leave the marriage and abandon the child? What does this mean? Does anyone have a clue, the sentence has no context at all: "His mother left six months after his birth; his father, a few years later." --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 22:37, 9 September 2010 (UTC)