Talk:Willis Gibson

Inclusion of Jayne Secker comment
I was wondering what other editors think about including the harsh remarks made by news anchor Jayne Secker about Gibson's achievement on the page. In a recent edit, added them to the page, and while I was aware of them, I deliberately avoided mentioning them as they seemed like too much of a WP:NOTNEWS violation. I think the information is notable on Secker's page under the controversies section, but here it doesn't really contribute anything noteworthy imo. Cheers!  Johnson  524  17:47, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

not the first person to max out tetris score
if willis is the first person, who are these https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umt4ZESWSeQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q78hv4nx6QA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keeSEJG4XzU&pp=ygUMdGV0cmlzIDk5OTk5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6mvDOKOIqY disregard third link if going for only original unaltered nes version. see date of video. none of them are tool assisted from what i know. what we have here is a big case of mainstream media outright lying and/or jumping in bandwagon to get views and monetization without searching tetris max score or tetris 9999999 in google and youtube to check if anyone else beat it before. do correct me if wrong. update:https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/92231-first-perfect-score-on-tetris-nes-version Mussharraf Hossen Shoikot (talk) 14:25, 14 January 2024 (UTC)


 * @Mussharraf Hossen Shoikot: I see your confusion, but this is not what the article is claiming at all. The achievement Gibson earned was being the first person to reach the game's "killscreen," a point late in the game when the Tetris code glitches, resulting in a game crash not allowing the player to continue before restarting, thus, "beating" the game. Nowhere on the page does it say that he was the first person to reach the maximum built-in Tetris score at 9999999. That had been done years before, and isn't 'beating the game' since you can still continue playing and gaining points after reaching that score, it just doesn't register on the screen. I hope this response was helpful, and please don't make big changes on the mainpage before consulting the talk page first. Cheers!  Johnson  524  15:53, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 January 2024
Changes to his birthdate, place of birth, and moving to Stillwater need to be made: Willis was born on January 27, 2010, to Adam Gibson and Karin Cox. He was raised in Garnett, KS until the age of 6. In 2016, 4 years after the divorce of his parents, he moved to Thornton, CO with his mother, step-dad, and siblings. In 2019, he moved to Stillwater, OK. The death date of his father and information about his mother (me) are correct.

Also,

The sentence about him not wanting a job in esports is partially out of context: He doesn't remember saying he didn't want a job in esports, just that at age 13, he isn't sure what he wants to do as an adult career yet.

I'm not sure how to cite this, since Willis is my son and asked if we could make changes. I'm trying to figure this out as best as I can. We can always make a video for this information that can't be found in current media and can site that video, but that seems silly to need to do. Thank you so much! IDivideBy0 (talk) 03:52, 15 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Hello @IDivideBy0, and thank you for taking an interest in the page! I will see what I can do about these changes, but let me double check the procedure first to see what can and cannot be used before I give a full response. Cheers!  Johnson  524  04:52, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi Karin, thanks for reaching out! If you or your son gives simple biographical information (like uncontroversial/unexceptional date/place of birth) in, say, a social media post or interview, we should be able to cite it for that purpose, as long as anyone looking at the source could clearly tell that it's really coming from you guys. Maybe this would also be okay for more biographical background than that, but I'm in the same boat as Johnson with not being super sure about the specifics. I also went ahead and revised that sentence you mentioned! 3df (talk) 05:03, 15 January 2024 (UTC)


 * @IDivideBy0: So as long as you and Willis are OK with it, all of this information can be used within the article, but it needs to be restated on either one of your social media accounts first. 3df kind of summed this up already, but this is simply to verify it's you; and while I don't doubt this, Wikipedia always aims to be verifiable. If a YouTube short or social media post seems excessive to you, if you could just say that the account "IDivideBy0" is you on some sort of bio, that should work. Wikipedia has learned to be pretty flexable with this after having simular requests made in the past but just having this information on a talk page isn't enough, as theoretically, anybody could be running the "IDivideBy0" account.
 * I hope you understand, and, as the original author of this page and the one for Justin Yu, I want to sincerely thank you and your son for helping bring Tetris to the attention of mainstream media again. His achievement was incredible, and both of these pages would not have been possible to write without the news generated from it. Wishing you the best from North Carolina 🙂  Johnson  524  06:35, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Professional?
How can a 13 year old who presumably relies on his parents still be a professional? The two main and common definitions of professional are: one who earns their living from an activity (typically something not considered a job), and someone who belongs to a profession (which is defined a job).

None of the sources seem to mention the term professional (although I haven't look through all 30) nor is the claim actually cited to anything (it's only included in the lead) looking at Justin Yu I noticed the same issue. I don't believe the label of professional should be applied without other sources using it. Traumnovelle (talk) 05:17, 16 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi, I went ahead and removed this terminology. As far as I know, Tetris is an amateur sport and players aren't paid except with prize money. 3df (talk) 06:07, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * @Traumnovelle: Thanks for the fix! I previously used the terminology "gaming name", but some other editor when the article was still new replaced it with "professional" and I just rolled with it. Cheers!  Johnson  524  06:32, 16 January 2024 (UTC)