Talk:Winchester College football/Archive 1

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Can we stop edit wars over who has an eight-post bust, please!

WinCoFo photos
If anyone wants to add any of these Creative Commons-licensed photos to the page, that's fine by me. Wyki 18:27, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

WinCoFo is a toilet
My brother, who is a Wykehamist, tells me that 'fo' means toilet, from the Latin 'foricas', and 'Wincofo' is the toilet in Flint Court (although it is normally called 'cofo'). For this reason I have removed the words "or WinCoFo", as in "also known as Winkies or WinCoFo". J Alexander D Atkins 14:43, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

In five years at Winchester College, I have never heard WinCoFo used in any context except as an abbreviation for Winchester College Football. The toilet in Flint court is called "Commoner Foricas" and is usually shortened to "Commoner Fo." As there is no 'Win' in "Commoner Foricas", I very much doubt that WinCoFo could refer to it. Gingekerr 10:04, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

Methinks your brother was winding you up, Alex. WinCoFo is an abbreviation for Winchester College Football and nothing else. Holmoak 11:10, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

¿where are the rules of Winkies? please let me know, i want to play this game here but the rules here are not enough.

Who are you? <--- i'm from Bolivia, and i'm working in the little towns of the highlands, i want to teach the boys to play the WinCoFo, but i need more about the rules, plz help me!

The Hot
What are the diferences between a scrum and a hot besaide the fact that there aren't hooking? How it's a hot setup?

There is no other difference apart from the ball of course. A hot can have any number of men in it providing there are three in the front row (like a rugby scrum). However in 15's it is customary to play 8 men in the hot in the same formation as a rugby scrum. However in recent years OTH have experimented in having only the 3 men in the hot (the front row). Trothigar 20:56, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Long Game???
I've heard about a Long Game casual form whitout hots, plz some Wykehamist can explain further about this form?

Long Game just refers to the games that the Jun Men play through out Common time (Spring term) to learn the rules. The form is exactly the same as normal winkies. Trothigar 20:57, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

South Africa
Are you sure all this about South Africa was not derived from that spoof Trusty Sweater that came out around 2001-2, containing the obituary of an imaginary Foreign Office official who caused inter-tribal warfare by trying to teach Win Co Fo to the natives? --Sir Myles na Gopaleen (the da) 12:57, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Now, those rumours had already been around in 1988, when I left Winchester. Supposedly Winkies had been played in South Africa for some time, I believe to remember that Freddy Hamilton, D, a man from South Africa, even confirmed this. There were stories, that Winkies a few generations back used to be played at New College, Oxford, too: "There have been attempts to spread the game; a canvas was erected in the Parks at Oxford between 1866 and 1873 and it should be noted that Winchester Football was the dominant code in South Africa until 1878 when rugby took over", an interesting quote from a historically interesting article: User:Patrick Habertag 09:40, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

I read somewhere that it was known as "Gog's Game" in South Africa in the nineteenth century, after the initials (G O'G) of some founding father, presumably a Wykehamist. But researching this might be difficult. Also I was told by an Etonian who had been at tother at Twyford between the Wars that in his day Winchester Football was played there. Millbanks (talk) 18:34, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I've now discovered that Gog was Canon George Ogilvie: see article on rugby union in South Africa, Millbanks (talk) 18:41, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Well of course it was played at New College: until the 1850s membership of New College was confined to Wykehamists. --Sir Myles na Gopaleen (the da) 14:16, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Boys
There are no boys at WinColl, only men. Could someone please change this Why don't you change it, lazybum! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.105.181.49 (talk) 14:43, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Winkies
Can anyone tell me when the name "winkies" arrived? In my day (1958-63) we talked about Win Coll football, and in my father's (1920-25) it was called Our Game (a term still used occasionally in the early sixties and one which gave its name to a book by John Le Carré) Millbanks (talk) 18:47, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Explication
Hells bells - is this article being nominated for the most incomprehensible on Wp? I have read through carefully it a couple of times and am no wiser about this game. Or is it merely a case of you have "had to be there"? I mean who is this "Mr Nevin" who is apparently a perpetual referee? Is he some sort of Orlando type of person? Silent Billy (talk) 03:16, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * The Poon. Ericoides (talk) 12:47, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

History Section
"... with few or no rules, and little regulation, to spoil this most primal version of the game...."

"Spoil" is surely opinion and needs to be changed?

"Most likely after one broken window too many the game was moved a safe twenty minutes' walk ..."

"Most likely" is supposition and shouldn't be there, and "safe" seems superfluous. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Auto98uk (talk • contribs) 22:00, 2 February 2013 (UTC)