Talk:Windows Messenger

On XP only?
I thought Windows Messenger was available strictly on XP only. I thought you can only get MSN Messenger on W2K.


 * http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail.php3?fid=1003804165 :-) &mdash; Timwi 10:32, 8 Apr 2004 (UTC)
 * Version 4.7 is pre-installed on Windows XP (4.0, 4.5, or so in early shipments), Windows 2000 only runs 5.x, but Windows XP can run 4.x and 5.x, this should probably be more clear in the article. 9 July 2005 06:28 (UTC)

Someone should write something about the people who exploited the messenger system a few years ago (I remember being spammed with messages from it linking me to a place where i could buy something that would make the messages stop, though someone showed me I could just disable the service). I don't have too much knowledge about the whole thing so I'm just throwing this out there (because I know a lot of my friends had the same exact thing happen to them).
 * That's the Messenger Service, NOT Windows Messenger. Entirey different so doesn't need to be in this article —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Smoothy (talk • contribs) 16:06, 29 March 2007 (UTC).

"How to" paragraph
I just removed the paragraph about uninstalling Windows Messenger. It was useful information, but not in line with Wikipedia policy: Wikipedia is not an instruction manual. I did, however, add a link to a site where the steps to remove it are provided, so the information can still be found if someone is looking for it. Regards, JoanneB 10:29, 1 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Moreover, it is not recommended to uninstall it, because by doing so you will lose the Remote Assistance feature of Windows XP. Best is to just remove the Windows Messenger icon. --Pinnecco 11:53, 21 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Should that be listed then? I mean.. if you uninstall something such as that, and you lose a key piece of software on your computer, its a bit important, isn't it? Disinclination 17:33, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Protocol
The MSN Messenger article includes some basic information on the protocol, port numbers etc. AIUI, Windows Messenger uses a different protocol - perhaps some brief note here would be useful, but I don't know the details myself - I believe it is called Rendezvous, giving RVP - RendezVous Protocol which itself is HTTP based.


 * Protocol description at Microsoft

There's also the version which is used within corporate IT networks, connecting only to an internal Exchange server, known in some texts as Microsoft Exchange Messaging; I don't know if it uses the same protocol, but it certainly seems to exhibit some differences.


 * Instant Messaging (IM) Clients for Exchange 2000 Server Instant Messaging Service and Live Communications Server
 * Instant Messaging (IM) Service for Exchange 2000 Server: Frequently Asked Questions

Perhaps someone more knowledgeable can help.

Latest version
I am currently running version 5.1.0701 of Windows Messenger, but the article shows the latest version to be 5.1.0680, I think I'll look for a changelog or something and update it here, Neilius 23:20, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Regarding the screenshot image and privacy
To the creator of the screenshot - You may wish to 'blur out' the email address of one contact that is visible in the screenshot used in this article to preserve that person's privacy. Neilius 23:29, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Only messaging client in schools
Windows Messenger in some workplaces and schools is the only MSN Client available. Although it is not as good as Windows Live Messenger, I appreciate the fact it is on, as non-preinstalled clients and web clients are blocked. RaviC


 * Some would argue that Windows Messenger is better than Windows Live Messenger, as it doesn't contain any advertising or other features that may be considered as being 'annoying' (nudges etc) and it's small, simple and light on resources. It also supports SIP and Exchange protocols which can be used by corporations for internal communications. Neilius 09:57, 2 August 2006 (UTC)


 * In the educational environment, Windows Messenger is rarely seen, since many school admins feel that it's a distraction for many kids. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 5pitfir3 (talk • contribs) 19:47, 6 May 2007 (UTC).

Removed Comparison of IRC clients link
I have removed this link, as this is irrelevant to this article. 5pitfir3 19:50, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Propose removal or overhaul of the "List of Versions and Features" section
This section is little more than a collection of patch notes. Wikipedia really isn't the place for that. I propose that this section of the article be rewritten in an encyclopedic form that actually covers the features of the product, or be removed completely. 159.116.54.138 17:29, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

messenger outdated
Why this messenger is installed and enabled by default on XP? It is outdated, it should be removed from Windows XP at all. I hope in SP3 they removed it completely. because everytime you install a clean XP, you have to remove it to install the new Live Messenger, (just in case you need one). --MarioV 18:27, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I doubt there will ever be a SP3 for XP, also removing stuff with a SP would piss people off big time (as if the SP2 changes weren't bad enough). Plugwash 13:59, 4 October 2007 (UTC)


 * well if users are instead encouraged to download Windows Live Messenger or Office Communicator, depending on their needs. why they just don't stop installing it on new versions of XP (SP3)? this program is 7 years old, what's the point of having an outdated program in Windows?--MarioV (talk) 20:14, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Apparently, certain components of the Remote Assistance feature in Windows XP depend on Windows Messenger. By the way, I believe Windows Messenger and Windows Live Messenger can co-exist on the same system.  Remember that XP SP3 also ships with IE6 instead of IE7.  It was basically intended only as a roll-out of a new baseline for the latest stability and security fixes, not as a feature upgrade.24.222.2.222 (talk) 15:18, 5 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Also, Windows Messenger has SIP support, not available on WLM. Aremith tlk 03:04, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Proposed merge with Windows Live Messenger
Too short, just an older version of the Live program. TheChampionMan1234 01:17, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

I wouldn't agree to that, Windows Messenger is a built-in component to Windows that was less featured than Windows Live Messenger, and Microsoft doesn't treat the 2 the same, I have both on my old Windows XP P.C. and while Windows Live Messenger received updates, Windows Messenger is practically unchanged since 2001, though I can still use it for all intended purposes. I think that Windows Messenger compared to M.S.N. Messenger/Windows Live Messenger is that of Windows Photo Viewer compared to the Windows (Live) Photo Gallery... --86.81.201.94 (talk) 15:06, 6 August 2014 (UTC)