Talk:Windy City (nickname)

Creation
This is a good start - I'll start setting it into the links around the Windy City name and Chicago nickname articles. Robovski 23:47, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

DNC & RNC National Conventions
It might also be interesting to point out that Chicago, Illinois has also been host to the largest number of Democratic National Conventions (11), and the largest number of Republican National Conventions (14). Though I'm not sure if this has anything to do with the, "Windy City," nickname, it does connect to politics. Dr. Cash 21:56, 30 March 2006 (UTC) "Yes. Thank you.  That is interesting to note."
 * It is widely understood by many Chicago natives that the above, and Chicago's "windy" politicians, does have something to do with the origin of the "Windy City" nickname.

I deleted the rest of my former comment upon rereading the article, as the world's fair section does explain approximately what I was suggesting was missing from the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Soco 79 (talk • contribs) 14:19, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Cincinnati "Windy City" Origins
My name is Barry Popik. I de-bunked the 1893 "World's Fair" myth many years ago. "Windy City" comes from Cincinnati, with the earliest citation of May 1876 (Cincinnati Enquirer) mentioned in the "Straight Dope" link. ... You can find my "Windy City" work in the American Dialect Society discussion listserv archives, www.americandialect.org, and by searching for "Cincinnati Enquirer." ... The earliest "Windy City" citations in the ProQuest database, as follow below, all come from Cincinnati. Cincinnati was a rival city of Chicago at that time. The term was double-edged. It had meant wind. (The Chicago Tribune had long advertised Chicago as a "summer resort" based on its cool summer breezes. Again, check "resort" in ADS-L archives.) However, to someone from Cincinnati, it clearly meant that people from Chicago were full of wind. The earliest ProQuest cites: ... ... AT BLUE ISLAND.; THE CHAMPIONSHIP. NOTES OF THE GAME. Chicago Daily Tribune (1872-1963). Chicago, Ill.: Jul 2, 1876. p. 3 (1 page) ... The Cincinnati _Enquirer_, in common with many other papers, has been waiting with great anxiety for the fulfillment of its prophecy: that the Chicago papers would call the Whites hard names when they lost. Witness these scraps the day after the Whites lost to the Athletics: ... There comes a wail to us from the Windy City. ... ... THE CREAM OF THE BUCKET.; CULCHAH. A SWEETLY SOLEMN THOUGHT. NARROW PARTISAN PREJUDICE. A CAUSE OF COMPLAINT. POLITICAL CONSIDERATION. RESIGNATION. THE CHAMPION. AN EXPOSITION ITEM. DOES SHE REALLY? REWEY REDIVIVUS. EVENING. Puck (1877-1918). New York: Jun 19, 1878. Vol. 3, Iss. 67; p. 13 (2 pages) ... First page: Such an usage would be wholly impracticable in the windy city. Cover up a whole block with a Chicago man's ear? --_Cinc. Sat. Night._ ... ... LOUIE'S LOVE.; A Strange Attempt to Elope With a School Girl--A Villainous Scheme to Rob an Old Man of His Daughter. The National Police Gazette (1845-1906). New York: Jul 17, 1880. Vol. Vol. XXXVI., Iss. No. 147.; p. 7 (1 page) (Re-printed from the Cincinnati Enquirer. See American Dialect Society listserv archives--ed.) ... ... IN OTHER SPECTACLES.; THE TEMPLAR PAGEANT AS SEEN BY OUTSIDERS. THE CHICAGO IDEA. ALLEGED ARCHES HOW THEY GOT THE MONEY. Cincinnati Commercial. THE LARGE HOTELS WERE WORSE MAGNIFICENT BADGE SET WITH DIAMONDS Chicago Daily Tribune (1872-1963). Chicago, Ill.: Aug 23, 1880. p. 7 (1 page) ... They had just arrived from the windy city of the lake. (From Cincinnati Commercial--ed.) ... ... OUR NATIONAL GAME.; Glance Over the Diamond Fields of the Continent. The National Police Gazette (1845-1906). New York: Oct 20, 1883. Vol. VOLUME XLIII., Iss. No. 317.; p. 11 (1 page) ... It was here that the late lamented Hulbert, president of the Chicagos, saw him and signed him for the Windy City club, where he has been playing ever since.--_Cincinnati Enquirer._ 05-07-06...Barry Popik again. Add "Hawk": http://www.barrypopik.com/article/591/the-hawk No one has updated this "Windy City" article? I'll try to get to it soon. Barry Popik 01:35, 30 June 2006 (UTC) I edited this article on June 30. I added the 1876 citations (the Chicago Tribune's Nathan Bierma verified it with Cincinnati). Where is everything?Barry Popik 03:49, 6 July 2006 (UTC) Funny. . . I've never heard anyone in Chicago use the term "the hawk" for cold winter winds. I have, however, heard New Yorkers use it -- for example, in Run-DMC's "Christmas in Hollis." Maybe this is a more generally African-American usage and less a specifically Chicago usage? --Mr. A. 17:00, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

That newspaper picture
Is stupid as hell.
 * And what a very useful and cogent contribution you have made to the improvement of this article. Thank-you ever so much for your very profound insight. Do you have anything actually useful to contribute or are you just here to waste your time and ours? Robovski 01:42, 23 March 2007 (UTC)


 * It's the only one I could find that shows a scan of an early reference to Chicago being the "Windy City". If you can find something better I would encourage you to do so. Jasenlee (talk) 03:06, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

World's Columbian Exposition

 * In 1893, Chicago won the bid to host the World's Fair, also known as the World's Columbian Exposition. 

As the Exposition was held in 1893, this must have been at an earlier point of time. -- Firefox13 21:27, 18 May 2007 (UTC) Correct. The fair was awarded to Chicago by Congress in 1890. I'm editing the page to reflect this. Icebox93 06:35, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Copy-edit
Copy-edited today, as requested. Tag now removed. thisisace 21:05, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Weather
Removed incorrect language alleging that Chicago adopted a street grid after the fire, because Chicago was a grid before the fire, and no street reroutes happened after the fire. Maps from 1869 and 1873 show the streets in the same places. Icebox93 07:27, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Incorrect links
The link to the Sun Times is incorrect. It is currently pointing to the 2002 version instead of the historic version, which is listed under "The Sun (New York)" in wikipedia. However, I can't figure out how correct the link without changing the wording in the sentence to read "The Sun (New York)," which makes for awkward reading. Can someone with more understanding of the wikipedia coding scheme make the correction? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.248.83.222 (talk) 16:00, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Chicago in SF
I find it hard to believe that a man born in 1914 published a story in 1100 bc. Anyone have any idea how this sentence was supposed to read? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.29.118.124 (talk) 08:22, 4 December 2008 (UTC) I'm just not sure what this entire section has anything to do with "Origins of the name Windy City"- perhaps more relevant for Chicago main page. - D. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Demosthenes445 (talk • contribs) 19:00, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Lou Rawls' Quote In Wrong Section
Lou Rawls quote is mis-filed. Please move it from the bottom of the "Notes" section up to the 'The Hawk, or Hawkins' section. 207.181.228.123 (talk) 14:47, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Grammar sucks
"Chicago is widely known as the "Windy City", is not the windiest city in the United States"

Perhaps you could fix it then. --Jasenlee (talk) 18:56, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

Change page name?
I'm wondering whether there should be a change of name for this page - or a change of scope. At the moment, this page covers only one of several cities known as "The Windy City". Given that Chicago is best-known of the cities worldwide with this nickname, it makes sense if either (a) this is a page simply on Chicago's nickname or (b) Chicago's use of the name should take up most of the page... but if the former is the case, shouldn't this be at something like Origin of Chicago's "Windy City" nickname, and if the latter is the case, shouldn't there be information on the likes of Wellington? Grutness...wha?  07:54, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Since no-one's commented or given any reasons why not, I'll leave this a week and if there are no objections in that time I'll move the page. Grutness...wha?  00:52, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Since there hasn't been any objection in almost a year, I went ahead and made the move. -- Tavix ( talk ) 18:58, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Contradiction?
The page appears to contradict itself about Dana. The main article states that Charles Dana popularized the term, but in the World Fair section it is tossed aside as a myth. 2601:344:4000:3D49:558D:5219:B4DA:2486 (talk) 21:28, 1 December 2016 (UTC)


 * It's been four years since this comment was made and the contradiction is still there. I'm gonna look at the sources and resolve it one way or the other. Loki (talk) 01:08, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Origin dates at least to 1860s
The nickname is clearly older than the 1870s. A casual search of Newspapers.com easily finds references to Chicago being called "the Windy City" as early as 1867, and it's clearly an established nickname by then. I found one "the windy city" in the Chicago Tribune in 1858 even. Surely there's scholarly research that reflects this somewhere by now. --Tysto (talk) 05:22, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

"Origin of the name " Windy City"" listed at Redirects for discussion
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Origin of the name &. The discussion will occur at Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 June 13 until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Elli (talk &#124; contribs) 20:37, 13 June 2021 (UTC)