Talk:Wink (platform)

Expansion
Over the next month, I will be adding sources, adding an infobox and expanding the article. However, it would be great if I could get some help. If you have any question, post them here or on my talk page.

Daylen (talk) 01:37, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Doesn't support that many devices
Philips Hue devices are always claimed but the Wink Hub never did control them directly. The Wink Hub only supports Ethernet protocols to communicate with the Hue Hub, being a bridge device itself. They have made this false claim since inception attempting to imply all their many protocol hardwares are in use. This is plain deception by the advertisers.

This claim is made for many other devices, but if you load their app into a mobile device and attempt to connect to almost any device, the video will instruct you to press the linking button on the appliance's system bridge/hub. The bridges are almost communicated with via Ethernet and not any of their claim hardware interfaces. More Hub/bridge devices are required than implied making the Wink Hub look more self-reliant and desirable.

This is misleading and the whole article does wreak of advertising.108.168.119.175 (talk) 22:55, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi ! The article is currently in the process of being rewritten. See the section below for more details. Daylen (talk) 20:06, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
 * The article has been rewritten and is now live. Let me know on the talk page regarding any other suggested changes. Have a great day! Daylen (talk) 04:36, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Draft
I am affiliated with Wink. The current article contains an indiscriminate list of products and partners. It is heavily tagged to identify issues with sourcing and neutrality. I would like to propose the draft at Talk:Wink_(platform)/draft as a replacement for the current article that would bring it up to GA quality standards. I'm sharing the draft for review and consideration by disinterested editors here on Talk per WP:COI. If anyone has time to review and consider my work for compliance with Wikipedia's rules and alignment with its mission, your time would be appreciated!

Pinging who added some of the tags,  who created the article, and  who has shown some interest in the page previously. CorporateM (Talk) 16:00, 2 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Looks pretty good. I wouldn't have the sentence "As of 2016, Wink software is connected to 1.3 million devices." in that exact form in both the leded and in the article. Refs looks good as well. I would support this change, even if you are affiliated with Wink. --FeldBum (talk) 16:52, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for catching the duplicative sentence. I reworded the second reference to 1.3 million devices to fix. CorporateM (Talk) 17:20, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi . I fully support the article change (this article is currently the worst one I have published and keep on having setbacks to rewrite it). I was new to Wikipedia at the time I wrote this article and wasn't good at writing articles from a neutral point of view. I have went ahead and made some minor changes to the draft and look forward to having it replace the current article. Cheers, Daylen (talk) 22:20, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Awesome. Since there is clear support for the draft at Talk:Wink_(platform)/draft in the discussion above, I am submitting a "Request Edit" asking an editor to merge it into article-space. CorporateM (Talk) 14:28, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi . I have went ahead and created a technical request to move the article Talk:Wink_(platform)/draft --> Wink (platform). Below are some recommendations that could be added to the article.
 * When was the Wink Hub introduced (date)
 * Mention that Wink is also an online retailer of smart home products


 * Have a great day, Daylen (talk) 20:06, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅ Daylen (talk) 04:36, 8 August 2016 (UTC)


 * I'm told the Wink HUB was announced July 7, 2014 and the Wink Relay was announced September 23, 2014, but unfortunately I couldn't really find strong sources for the stuff you were asking for above. Maybe in the future more sources will be published that might allow us to expand the article a bit. I'm also going to talk to them about potentially getting some photos. CorporateM (Talk) 16:55, 9 August 2016 (UTC)


 * , photos sound great! Here are some sources for the Wink Hub and Wink Relay release dates.
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 * Daylen (talk) 16:14, 13 August 2016 (UTC)

Page title and redirects
Hi everyone! During the process of rewriting the Wink (platform) article, I am wondering if we should consider renaming the article. Any suggestions? Also, I have added a list below of the page titles that redirect(ed) to the article, please take a moment to review them.

Based on data from July 2016

Daylen (talk) 20:37, 5 August 2016 (UTC)


 * So keep the name as Wink (platform), delete the two redirects with no traffic and add another from Wink (company)? (Or did I misunderstand?) That sounds good. --FeldBum (talk) 20:46, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅ Daylen (talk) 04:36, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Small update
Last year Wink introduced the Wink Hub 2 and since then several reliable sources have published in-depth reviews. I chose the three reviews I felt were most reliable and substantive (one positive, one negative, one middled) and summarized them below, in the hopes that we can update the Reception section with a new paragraph on them. If a disinterested editor has a minute to consider my work, it would be welcomed.

A review in PCMAG of the Wink Hub 2 said it was easy to use and compatible with many devices, but had no battery backup or USB ports. Under "Bottom Line" the review said "...works with virtually every wireless protocol out there and supports dual-band Wi-Fi. Installation and device pairing is quick and easy..." It gave the Hub 2 4.5 out of 5 stars and named it its new Editors' Choice for home automation hubs.. In contrast, CNET gave the device just 3 stars. The reviewer said the device is easy to setup and compatible with many devices, but gave the reviewer error messages. The reviewer was never able to successfully set it up the way she wanted. Tom's Guide gave the Wink Hub 2 7 out of 10. It also said the device was easy to use and compatible with many devices, but missing some advanced features. Tom's Guide said it was good for "basic" smart homes.

References

CorporateM (Talk) 23:41, 16 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi Is the proposed edit to replace the "Reception" section with this or to add this to it?  North8000  (talk) 19:44, 14 February 2017 (UTC)


 * I hadn't thought of that. I think typically the norm is for the Reception section to cover the entire history and reflect changes of Reception over time, but at a certain point including every review ever gets overwhelming. With that in mind, I might suggest trimming the current Reception text on version 1.0 to the first two sentences, then replacing the rest with the 2.0 reviews, but it's up to you. CorporateM (Talk) 19:42, 15 February 2017 (UTC)


 * What you suggested looks good. To really make good decisions like this by myself would require me learning the topic much more thoroughly than intended.  North8000  (talk) 20:52, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I jus appended it because chopping that last sentence would have chopped a reference.

Removing "to do" template
I plan to remove the "to do" template. This has been there for 1 1/2 years with no action. Also it's not clear whether or not the requested statements are correct/ verifiable. IMO this does not need to be in the header of the talk page this is typical talk page material. The removed items are as follows:


 * Add when was the Wink Hub introduced (date)
 * Mention that Wink is also an online retailer of smart home products

Sincerely,  North8000  (talk) 12:07, 20 February 2017 (UTC)