Talk:Winter storms of 2006–2007

What?
What's this? Who decides the dates? If there's nothing previously published about winter storm "seasons" having dates, I don't see how anyone could take two random dates in violation of WP:NOR? Are there sources? Also, this isn't related to the 2006 AHS. – Chacor 04:58, 13 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Can you think of a better way to do this? Outright deleting it doesn't seem like a solution. When seasonal snowfall is recorded, they always cut it off at June 30. If it's June 30, 2005, and, say, 5 inches of snow falls, it would go into the totals for the 2004-05 seasonal snowfall. Then if another 5 inches falls on July 1, 2005, it will count towards the 2005-06 seasonal totals. That seems to be enough rationale to me. bob rulz 05:04, 13 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Well, while I do agree with you (winter seasons traditionally start July 1st, i.e. heating/cooling degree days), let's remember "Thirty days have September..." -Runningonbrains 05:25, 15 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Uh...what do you mean by "thirty days have September..." bob rulz 05:35, 15 September 2006 (UTC)


 * The rhyme "Thirty days have September, April, June, and November. As in there is no June 31.  But whatever, no biggie. -Runningonbrains 05:45, 15 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Ahahah, wow, I can't believe I said June 31. Thanks for correcting me on that. bob rulz 06:18, 15 September 2006 (UTC)


 * The NWS does define the snowfall season to be July 1-June 30, which also matches the water year in the West. It is actually possible for a snow event in the highest elevations of the Wasatch to bridge the mystic time of July 1 midnight.  Remember, hail now counts as part of the frozen precipitation total, so one must be careful.  Can someone say "d'oh"?  Thegreatdr 01:20, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

September 14-16
I'm copying the event discussions used on the Tornadoes of 2006 discussion page; seems reasonable to include them here as well. It looks like the first widespread snow event of the season appears to be on its way for the mountains of the Pacific Northwest. Snow is expected to fall as far south as central Colorado and maybe even southern Colorodo. If a widespread significant snow event in fact does occur with appreciable accumulations, it will be the first event addition to this article. bob rulz 05:06, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Agreed. It is ALMOST time to think about this. By October we will surely have entries. As for the random dates, yes, it had to be cut off SOMEWHERE - otherwise we'd have a page covering up to Dec.31 and another starting at Jan.1 when, for all we know, the same storm could be covered both times! CrazyC83 03:42, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
 * The first winter weather advisories of the year have been issued, with up to a foot of snow expected in the western Montana mountains and several inches in the Washington Cascades. Nothing significant has occurred yet, but even if it's just for the simple reason that this is the first widespread snow event of the season, it should be mentioned. bob rulz 05:35, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Brett Anderson from Accuweather.com said that there were reports of 20-25 cm in the mountains of Alberta. But it is a blog, but will it be good to add that reference. --JForget 01:57, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

September 21-23
Another winter storm is moving into the West. Up to a foot of snow is expected in the mountains of Utah and Wyoming, and 1-2 feet in the mountains of Colorado. Haven't seen any snow totals yet. bob rulz 04:59, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it is still really early though. October is when the lowlands start to get involved. Typically, the first major snow is in October in the far northern Plains and lower parts of the Rockies. Otherwise, you have to go up to Canada to find snow then. I'm not sure about over in Europe? (Major events overseas get coverage here too, this is a worldwide page, although coverage will be lower there) CrazyC83 05:33, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

October 11-13
First winter storm for the Upper Peninsula of Michigan; 1-2 feet of snow is currently forecast for the most favorable areas. bob rulz 22:30, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Also stretching westward into northern Wisconsin and Minnesota. CrazyC83 00:41, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I see that now. Up to a foot of snow expected in those areas. This should be fun to watch, but the cold weather is the big event. bob rulz 04:31, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Up to a foot of snow has fallen in the snowband areas of New York. Buffalo set an all-time October daily snowfall record, while several areas in Lower Michigan have set records for the earliest measurable snow on record. This is an impressive storm! bob rulz 09:09, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
 * The 2 feet was lake-effect, but for October, that is really impressive! It was very localized though; outside of the bands, there were only light flurries. Not article-worthy though being so localized. CrazyC83 16:10, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I dunno, I was considering writing an article for it. Buffalo NWS said it was the most unusual and extreme event they had ever witnessed.  "Unprecedented meteorological parameters" were in place. What exactly does qualify a storm as encyclopaedic?  Are there guidelines anywhere? -Runningonbrains 21:50, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Also, consider that even though only a small area got a substantial snow, almost everywhere around the great lakes recorded record-breaking earliest snows, even though it was only a few inches at most(see here). -Runningonbrains 22:02, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I was also considering whether or not it was worthy of an article. Personally, I think that if we can find enough info on it, then someone should write an article for it. There were lots of new stories on it, and the Buffalo NWS probably has a report on it. bob rulz 12:46, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Article
Someone else made the article Lake Storm "Aphid". While it should be renamed (October 2006 Buffalo storm or something like that), I think we should build it up. It is older but poorly-linked. I was looking to see if one existed. CrazyC83 19:18, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

October 25-26
Huge blizzard expected to drop up to a foot of snow on the Front Range of Colorado, and perhaps 2 feet in the mountains. It'll be interesting to see how this turns out; Denver snowstorms especially have a tendency to be unpredictable. bob rulz 02:24, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
 * It's turning out to be quite intense already... CrazyC83 17:54, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah...I wish I lived there. Anyway, just a reminder to people: try not to use Yahoo! links for news! Their links go dead after a short period, and then it would be difficult to go back and find another news source to use. bob rulz 22:29, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

November 26-December 2
Early models seem to be picking up a potential double-whammy, with severe snow in the northern Plains. (Combined with the severe weather farther south, see Talk:Tornadoes of 2006 for that part) CrazyC83 03:44, 24 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Yeah, even down here in Utah there's currently hype over a significant storm. It's not just the Northern Plains. bob rulz 06:02, 24 November 2006 (UTC)


 * This could be a case of a rare "split article" being created... CrazyC83 22:51, 24 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Hype about this is starting in Michigan as well. &mdash;BazookaJoe 05:06, 25 November 2006 (UTC)


 * This storm and the cold that will follow it are looking stronger all the time. The cold associated with it could be historic (for November, at least). bob rulz 08:02, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Changed date to reflect the storm now moving onshore (and expected to drop 1-2 feet of snow in the Cascades and Sierra Nevada today). bob rulz 10:50, 26 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Yeah, it looks like a cross-continent system too...this could affect almost everyone either with heavy snow or severe thunderstorms... CrazyC83 15:49, 27 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Could finally be snow in eastern Ontario late Friday or Saturday, and maybe a lot--JForget 23:55, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

As for an article for this, I think it should be considered...although I do want to wait and see what happens beneath the cold front - the blizzards in the Northwest almost warrant one. CrazyC83 02:43, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Should because of the impact on the Coast, especially Vancouver, they rarely see snow during the winter and even less in November and even less in that magnitude in November. 50 centimetres in some suburbs of Vancouver is quite unusual.

I've added the Midwest, Great Lakes and yes... Eastern Ontario event in the same sub-section, considering the storm will be connecting to the same that caused all the mess in B.C and in the Prairies. Should it still have though a separate sub-section?--JForget 00:32, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

I liked how parts of Oklahoma had an active Tornado Watch and Winter Storm Warning silmultaneously. I hear that Joe Bastardi is thinking about 10-20 inches 75 miles on either side of the line from Tulsa to the Saginaw, calling it equal &mdash; for some &mdash; to the Feb 2006 NYC Blizzard, one of the greatest of all time. &mdash;BazookaJoe 01:11, 30 November 2006 (UTC)


 * This has some reminiscent characteristics of the 1993 Superstorm too, as it appears that it will be a derecho - and not a tornado outbreak - on the severe storm side. Everything should go together if an article is made. It will likely be the Tennessee Valley on the 30th and the Mid-Atlantic and eastern Great Lakes on Dec. 1st that gets the severe weather. CrazyC83 06:48, 30 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm living where we don't know if we will get a foot or more of snow or tons of ice. Lastest Canadian (MM & TWN & EC)models seems to gives us a better shot for freezing rain from Thursday Night to Friday Evening and dropping from + 15 to -1 from the afternoon to tonight.--JForget 11:54, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm going to recommend an article: Late November 2006 North American Storm Complex so that it covers the blizzard, ice storm and possible tornado outbreak/derecho. Also the North American blizzard of 2006 should be moved to North American blizzard of February 2006. CrazyC83 06:56, 30 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Article shell now in place at User:CrazyC83/Storm1106. It has a lot ahead though, being sooooo widespread... CrazyC83 04:55, 1 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Possibility for a rediculous derecho in the Mid-Atlantic/Northeast. This really could be almost on the scale of 1993, not quite as bad though severe-wise. SPC outlook


 * I'll try to find as much information as I can on this storm. However, it is a huge event, and will be difficult to cover. bob rulz 05:58, 2 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I agree. This was soooooooo widespread...we'd need to focus on certain parts each. I can't remember anything so severe in so many areas in such a long time... CrazyC83 06:01, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

December 18-23
Latest guidance may suggest a winter storm for some areas in the eastern half of the continent by late week or in the weekend. Right it is hitting the Rockies, and tommorrow the Panhandles. Watches are in effect for South Dakota and Nebraska and looks like the Twin Cities will be hitThis will likely be the last chance for a white Christmas, but it is unsure who will get hit with what. Chances of a white Christmas in Ottawa according to Accuweather.com is 70%, one of the highest probability in eastern Canada.


 * It`s already happening in the central Rockies and High Plains. Made mention to it now. Some areas could get up to 3 feet there, especially Colorado. CrazyC83 18:12, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

December 24-27 - The Christmas Nor'easter of 2006?
Well looks like a new storm will form and hit the northeast on the 25th and 26th. Most of I-95 will see rain although the Great Lakes may finally see some snow. It has been bare (with a few exceptions) since the beginning.--JForget 12:18, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

It appears that an area in southern Ontario from just north of Toronto to about Ottawa may receive as much as a foot of snow Monday night into Tuesday. We could finally taste some snow here.--JForget 01:06, 25 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Any updates from around there? bob rulz 01:54, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

The storm was a dud, I think the system didn't had as much cold air and moisture as expected, so highest amounts were possibly around 6 inches and it was mostly wet and slushy snow mixed at times with rain. No need to mention it unless there were reports in the States (i.e Ohio Valley)--JForget 03:23, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

December 28-31
New blizzard for the Front Range and Central Plains. Man, two major blizzards in 1 week! bob rulz 01:54, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

This one will be a slow mover and may impact eastern portions of the continent by New Year's Day. Probably it will be a similar scenario as the December 25-26 system - it means it will depend on how much colder air it will have. So it may well last beyond the 31st this system. Wish that type of weather would of hit in Ontario--JForget 03:25, 28 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I don't see much happening outside the Plains and Rockies...the severe weather in the South is likely to bust... CrazyC83 03:33, 29 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Hell of a snowstorm for the Plains, though. Goodland, Kansas and Albuquerque, New Mexico both saw near record snowstorms. bob rulz 10:17, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

The entry for this storm just pisses me off. Not a single mention of Nebraska, which received the worst Ice Storm ever recorded in the state. Power was out for weeks to some rural customers, a town of 6,000 people was without power for a week and ran on generators for a further two weeks, and thousands of miles of power lines and transmission lines had to be repaired or rebuilt from scratch. Tens of thousands of wooden power poles had to be replaced, and the final repairs on the power grid were not made until October of 2007, over nine months after the storm hit. Some locations received over 4 inches of freezing rain from this storm. Nowhere else in the "Texas Panhandle into South Dakota" area had as much ice accumulation as south-central Nebraska, and yet the state's not even mentioned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Toroca (talk • contribs) 21:40, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

January 12-15 - Ice Storm '07?


While reading this blog, there have possibilities that a wicked snow storm may impact the Great Lakes region by the end of the weekend. Right now, it is expecting to hit Colorado with yet more snow and then will tap out some Gulf moisture before heading northeast across the Great Lakes/Ohio Valley area. There would be a huge contrast between both sides of the low as probably we may have some 50s and 60s (perhaps 70s) on the warm side and some teen's or 20's on the north side (with possibly sub-zeros next week in some areas). For those following tornadoes, there could be some of that, but probably the big story will probably be several big cities being hit with heavy snow from Saturday to Monday. Right now, areas such as Chicago, Detroit, Toronto, Ottawa and Montreal may be hit hard. But that's remains to be seen and if the story materialized, this could article-worthy.

For folks in the I-95, maybe there is something for the 20th, but that's way ahead, so I won't talk about it now, but could be a head's up.

Listen up to Henry Margusity's video on January 10 for more details.--JForget 21:13, 10 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Actually, the big story could be the Ice Storm of 2007 in the Midwest, from northern Texas up to Illinois. That could be article-worthy at this rate...I don't think the snow will be as bad as some think at this point. Some comparisons could even be made with Ice Storm '98 (of course, that was much farther north) and a similar one in 1994 in the Southeast (which needs an article). CrazyC83 22:06, 12 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Yeah, this is shaping up to be a pretty bad storm. Four people have been killed already! bob rulz 11:13, 13 January 2007 (UTC)


 * The worst is yet to come too! About 230,000 people are without power on my count so far... CrazyC83 15:07, 13 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Storm track seems more to the north and west that the previous forecast. Omaha, Nebraska and Des Moines, Iowa which originally wasn't expecting much activity are under winter storms watches. Meanwhile, areas such as Detroit, Toronto and Cleveland may also see some of that ice. But the Great Lakes region (except the snow belts) are really having a hard getting just little snowfall this year.--JForget 17:03, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Little side note, but will the current freezing spell which affects California be part of the article about that storm?--JForget 18:13, 15 January 2007 (UTC)


 * No, since it has nothing to do with that system. Maybe a brief mention but nothing in depth. (However, in the very unlikely chance it crosses the Atlantic and produces severe winter weather in Europe, it should be kept on one article as it is the same system) CrazyC83 23:47, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Careful, blogs are not WP:RS. BBC reports 35 deaths. – Chacor 00:29, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

I haven't used blogs for my contributions for that storm, it came from the Ottawa Sun, CNN, CBC and TVA Also, Probably the BBC have omitted fatalities in Canada because there have been two so far and CNN also omitted those in their articles. I had to check local (Ottawa) and Quebec media to find the news on fatalities in those areas.--JForget 01:38, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

As Texas had more then enough of freezing rain, looks like another potent event is in store for Texas as another storm will brew across the Deep South late this week. Right now, it seems Dallas, Austin and San Antonio may be affected. It looks like another big winter event for the Midwest for the weekend. --JForget 21:25, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

What a week!
Wow, this was quite wild. 132 deaths (so far) worldwide in one week...little did we see this coming! That is an awful lot for a winter storm. Prayers go out to all of the 132+ that have lost their lives and everyone around them...

At this rate, the North American total may exceed 100, seeing that we have nothing out of Mexico at this point... CrazyC83 16:43, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Great Lakes lake-effect superstorm
Even though it is localized, does this warrants an article. 300 cm of snow that's impressive in one week. I hope there will be more information about areas of Michigan and Ontario, as some areas really got hit hard there too as well.--JForget 16:17, 11 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I think an article is warranted if someone can find enough info to cover it. bob rulz 08:18, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

February 12-16 - Major eastern storm
This looks quite big this week, I hope it goes even further north (as the trend seems to be lately) so maybe eastern Ontario would get hit. Maybe that will be article warrant. It is still a good 72-96 hours away. It looks like it is most of New England that will get hit and parts of the Mid-Atlantic. Although I've seen in the past that storms that was forecasted to hit New York ended up in Ontario. In this one, we may need a 100-150 mile shift further north and west--JForget 16:49, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Update: Looks like I'm right, my area (Ottawa) is currently in the 6-12 inches area with a 18 inches zone just 150 miles to the east.--JForget 21:46, 11 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Blizzard warnings in Ohio, Indiana and Illinois. CrazyC83 12:50, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

(Canada) O.K, right now anywhere from Kingston/Ottawa to western New Brunswick is going to be near-blizzard to blizzard conditions - Pretty much a guaranteed of 8 + inches everywhere with as much as 2 feet locally. Heard and read that the track was even more to the west (so maybe my area could get also 1 foot). Also Western shores of Lake Ontario (Hamilton) may get 2 feet of snow due to lake enhancement.

(U.S) This could be quite significant for an article with the ice forecast for the I-95 area north of Philadelphia not to mention we have tornadoes in the South.--JForget 20:29, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

February 21-25 - Cross-country winter storm
A huge storm has arrived on the Pacific coast and is expected to drop as much as 3 feet in the Sierras and 1-2 feet in the mountains around Los Angeles. It will move east and turn into a major winter storm for the central Plains, extending in a swath through the northern Great Lakes, with ice and snow possible in the mid-Atlantic and New England by Sunday. Severe weather is also expected in the South. bob rulz 07:09, 22 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Connected to a developing severe weather outbreak to the south; I am currently covering that, since that may be the headliner... CrazyC83 00:07, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Seems that this storm will be more notable for the severe weather outbreak, the snow portion will literally break apart after hitting the midwest with 6-10 inches then the east will get virtually peanuts (and nothing again in my area as it has been the case all winter long). --JForget 03:55, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Could see up to a foot-and-a-half in parts of the Upper Midwest. bob rulz 21:07, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Combined article?
Should this be combined with the previous storm (and the next one?) into a winter storm sequence article? They affected pretty much the same areas, and this doesn't seem article-worthy by itself but pretty close to... CrazyC83 13:16, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

February 27-March 2
Another huge storm is expected to move onshore on Tuesday morning (the 27th) and could add several more feet of snow to the mountains there; it could also lead to a significant winter storm in the northern Plains and Upper Midwest by early March. bob rulz 04:50, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

And this time, it looks like it will not split in the Great Lakes region like the other one - maybe finally the Toronto-Ottawa-Montreal area will finally get a big one (long overdue), although I'm concerned for some ice mixed here. --JForget 21:10, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

March 26-29
Could be a good-sized storm for the majority of the Rocky Mountain and northern High Plains region. The Billings-Sheridan area could see up to 2 feet of snow from this storm, while some mountain areas will see up to 3 feet. bob rulz 08:07, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

April 13-16
Looks a major storm possibly nor'easter will hit the northeastern part of the continent, but looks like the Appalachians will a lot of snow which may extend the ski season quite a bit. Looks like many areas could get over 1 foot (I presume especially the higher terrains) - Adirondacks, Catskills, etc.--JForget 01:47, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

I was wondering if an article on all the mess this storm created (flooding, tornadoes, damaging wind, storm surge, snow storm and various effects) would be justified. This storm looks as bad as the December 1 storm minus the ice. But I won't have time to start it this week - being busy on other stuff, but if anyone is willing to start an article about the monster nor'easter, can do so.--JForget 21:23, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Reference
While I agree that we should have references, a problem comes up when we reference AccuWeather; they don't keep archives. Tomorrow, when all of the news headlines change, that reference will probably link to something completely different. Also (I know, this probably counts as original research), AccuWeather tends to severely underestimate snow totals, especially in the West, and are always lower than NWS advisories. bob rulz 05:40, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
 * See? It now links to something completely different. bob rulz 20:17, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately I was unable to find anything other than accuweather. We'll have to search pretty hard to find it or else we may run into citation problems.  Did anyone copy and paste the text perchance? -Runningonbrains 00:18, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Nope, not me. Also, maybe this place will work: Weekly weather summaries updated every Tuesday (Wednesday on holiday weekends). It's the best weather summarizing place I've been able to find. bob rulz 00:33, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
 * That seems pretty good...and will definately be useful in the future. I only skimmed through the current one but I assume it covers the snowstorm in question. -Runningonbrains 01:41, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep an eye out for HPC storm summaries. HPC keeps an active archive, and writes storm summaries for those events which cover 3 or more county warning areas and are expected to have a significant impact precipitation-wise and media-wise, like the Late November Nor'easter. Thegreatdr 01:24, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Can you provide a link? I've been looking for something like that. bob rulz 07:24, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
 * might be of interest... Storm summary #12 (final) for this event from the HPC, including snowfall and rainfall totals. – Chacor 16:20, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, that link will certainly prove useful. Thanks for providing it. How big does a storm have to be for them to release reports like this? bob rulz 06:44, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Update: I'm not sure when it started, but AccuWeather now keeps archives. The links for each day are located at the bottom of the main news story. bob rulz 04:44, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

International winter storms
Hum! Is international events outside North America will be covered, because it could be tagged for limited geographical scope.JForget 00:08, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
 * If it ultimately wasn't international in scope, the name of the article would need to be changed. Thegreatdr 01:32, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I would add international events, but unless they're very unusual or extreme events, we don't hear about them here in the U.S. If anyone knows a good place that covers international events, please let us know. It would be great to have them. bob rulz 07:25, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Another December 8 storm
It didn't exactly snow that much where i live, but it was very windy and icy. School was delayed two hours, and one of the buses broke down, so we had to go all the way across town to pick them up. The last of the students didn't get to school til 11. So, my guess is that I need sources to add this to the article. íslenskur fel lib ylur #12 (samtal) 15:00, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Uh... Winter Storms in America?
This all seems to be about winter storms in North America... nothing else about the rest of the world. Shouldn't this be retitled to reflect that? Not that I have a beef with Amerocentric articles; I'm Canadian. Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not exactly an experienced person when it comes to editing. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.57.254.172 (talk) 01:40, 6 January 2007 (UTC).


 * Find more information overseas! It is tough, as Europe doesn't seem to be getting a lot of storms, and Asia has translation issues. CrazyC83 02:22, 10 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Unless they're particularly noteworthy, we don't get much information from snowstorms overseas. Europe is suffering through a mid-winter heat wave, as well (along with the eastern U.S.) that certainly isn't helping the situation. bob rulz 04:58, 11 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Well it's been pretty bad here in the UK last week and especially today. Storms over night and into today have killed 4 here. - User:Burwellian 14:48, 18 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Has it produced any kind of frozen precipitation? If it's produced anything significant, even if it's just in the "mountains" (as you Brits call them), then it can be included. bob rulz 23:59, 18 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I believe it did. Many of the storms mentioned from North America had rain in much of the system as well... CrazyC83 16:48, 21 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Yep, which is why most of the storms listed recently are from west of the Mississippi River. CrazyC83 22:21, 12 January 2007 (UTC)


 * One big winter storm recently hit portions of China last weekend, so we've finally have an Asian storm in this article--JForget 15:47, 7 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I've found an article from a Chinese news agency about a storm in Jordan in late-december - added due to rarity of storms in the Middle East and also due to over 1 000 who were stranded by the storm. I've also heard about a recent storm in Jordan this week, but haven't found an article on that one. If someone found a source, can you relay it to my talk page so I can add the info in this article(or you can also add a text for that storm too in the article). Thanks!--JForget 16:41, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Page move?
The new title seems quite awkward. Any support for changing it back? - Running On  Brains  23:50, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * See User talk:Nightstallion. – Chacor 07:02, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm in favor of moving it back. It seems like a better naming convention not to start the page title with a number if it's not necessary. - Running  On  Brains  07:41, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, move it back to Winter storms of 2006-07, similar to Tornadoes of 200X. &mdash;BazookaJoe 01:23, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Deep Freeze
I know it's not a "storm" per se, but I believe the recent deep freeze in the Upper Midwest and Northeastern U.S. qualifies as severe winter weather in my mind. Some of the coldest temperatures in over 10 years have been occurring, and I've seen one report say 6 people have died alreday. Many schools have also closed based on the cold alone. There has also been moderate lake effect snow activity, on the eastern sides of the Great Lakes, adding to the situation. Should we create a new article or just put a blurb in about it? Abog 06:49, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Definitely a blurb, but I doubt an article is justified. A cold outbreak like this happens just about every year.  If the cold sticks around for another few weeks, however, a case could be made. - Running  On  Brains  07:44, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Agreed. It is nothing unusual, even at a regional level. Maybe if it was at record-breaking levels like 1977... CrazyC83 12:50, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

confused by the title
why does the article include July to June of next year? why not a 2006 jan to dec article? Another 2007 jan to dec article? Why winter? most of the events shown are in the US. Which part of the US is winter in july? what about southern hemisphere? It is winter for southern hemisphere during july, but, the article doesn't seem to be about the sourthern part. Z3u2 10:17, 9 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Since the southern hemisphere has such a small amount of landmass in these polar latitudes, winter storms are much more common in the northern hemisphere. Also, coverage is much more extensive. Therefore, it's easier and more practical to divide it up by the northern hemisphere season rather than just by year. Otherwise we'd have storms occurring in the same winter (again, significant snowstorms are much more common in the northern hemisphere) but covered by two different articles. bob rulz 08:11, 17 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Not to mention the possibility of a "bridging" event is much greater on December 31 than on June 30. The tornadoes and severe weather page, on the other hand, works better by calendar year as December and January are generally the least active months for those. CrazyC83 21:19, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

merge?
Are the two April events in this article the same system? Gopher backer 19:16, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
 * They could be. I didn't notice the sentence mentioning Michigan when I first read the article (which otherwise implies that they're different), and I also don't remember hearing anything about the two being connected on the news (though I swear I heard them say it was a Nor'easter, which would mean it'd have come from the wrong direction entirely), but that's no guarantee either way.  I'm too tired to find any sort of specifics and not misread everything, right now. -Bbik 01:01, 7 April 2007 (UTC)