Talk:Wise County, Virginia

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List of recreational facilities
I reverted the list of recreational facilities. Most of them aren't particularly notable, and it felt very list-crufty to me. Would anyone else happen to have any thoughts on this? I certainly have no problem with listing some of the more notable ones, but that list just seemed out of control. --Takeel 20:44, 15 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I pared down the list of recreation facilities. Enough? --Mpritchard80 17:32, 21 February 2007 (UTC)


 * IMHO, I think it is still too much. I have requested a third opinion. --Takeel 20:03, 21 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes, still too much. I would be happy to take a stab at trimming it and seeing if we can get a version that suits everyone. -- Pastordavid 20:15, 21 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Which items jump out at you as being the most notable ones? --Takeel 04:22, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Moving the list from the main page to here before I edit it down. I'll be back by this evening to take a stab at the list on the article itself. -- Pastordavid 20:31, 23 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Jefferson National Forest
 * The Clinch River
 * Appalachia Loop Trail
 * Bark Camp Lake
 * Bee Bottom
 * Bullitt Park
 * Cave Springs
 * Chief Benge Trail
 * Counts Cabin Trail
 * The Devil's Bathtub & Waterfall
 * Devils Fork Trail System
 * Flatwoods Recreational Area
 * Guest River Gorge Trail
 * Hanging Rock
 * Heart of Appalachia Bike Route and Scenic Drive
 * High Knob


 * Lake Keokee
 * Laurel Fork Trail
 * Little Stony National Recreation Trail
 * Louis E. Henegar Miners Memorial Park
 * Miner's Park
 * Oxbow Lake
 * Phillips Creek Loop Trail
 * Pound Reservoir
 * Red Fox Trail
 * Stone Mountain Trail
 * Straight Fork Ridge Trail
 * Sugar Hill Loop Trail
 * Trans-America Bike Route
 * Wallen Ridge Trail
 * Wise Lake Reservoir
 * Wetlands Estonoa and the Wetlands Estonoa Project

Revision
I have severely trimmed the list. Actually, it is no longer a list, but moved to prose instead. There is no reason to include every little trailhead on Wikipedia, so it is now significantly shorter, with most of what was listed covered in the general statements made here. I also removed the many redlinks, and the links that directed to something unrelated to Wise county -- please check where a wikilink leads before adding it to the encyclopedia. I moved this link to the external links, rather than have it linked to two dozen times in the article. -- Pastordavid 16:26, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Why Virginia is not actually classified as a commonwealth.
The article being linked to on this page describes the term commonwealth in this context that even though Virginia is styled as a commonwealth, this has "no constitutional impact" on the fact that it's still a state. An actual United States Commonwealth is "a type of organized but unincorporated dependent territory", and Virginia definitely does not fit that definition. Therefore, Virginia is not a commonwealth in the official sense, but a commonwealth in the literal sense that it is a "government based on the common consent of the people", but all states are commonwealths in this sense as well, so it makes little point to distinguish that and add confusion. — D. Wo. 20:28, 4 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Now I think about it, you are correct that this is a distinction without difference, and therefore shouldn't be put in this article because it is confusing. (I'm the guy who changed it back to commonwealth, as a sort of knee-jerk response by a Virginian).
 * For those who want more information, check this - which includes the comment "This does not meanVirginia has a different form of government than any other state." - DavidWBrooks (talk) 21:59, 4 January 2009 (UTC)