Talk:Witch's ladder

Definition
A talisman is something written, I removed this from the first paragraph..Talismans, (charms as well though I won't open that can of worms) are for good luck and protection and most usually written, whether this be on an amulet, paper,.. whatever, it Does involve words and therefore can not be the same as a rope and feathers. What you might wish to stick in something does not change what it Is.

I would also ask that if you add something to this article and you are aware it is of a Neo-pagan or Wiccan design, please state that is so.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.94.233.230 (talk • contribs) 14:43, 30 June 2007


 * The distinctions between "talisman" and "amulet" are fuzzy:


 * http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/talisman tal·is·man     /ˈtælɪsmən, -ɪz-/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation(tal-is-muhn, -iz-) Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
 * –noun, plural -mans.
 * 1. a stone, ring, or other object, engraved with figures or characters supposed to possess occult powers and worn as an amulet or charm.
 * 2. any amulet or charm.
 * 3. anything whose presence exercises a remarkable or powerful influence on human feelings or actions.




 * [Origin: 1630–40; < F or Sp ≪ Ar ṭilasm < Gk télesma payment, equiv. to teles- (var. s. of teleǐn to complete, perform) + -ma n. suffix of result]


 * —Related forms
 * tal·is·man·ic     /ˌtælɪsˈmænɪk, -ɪz-/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[tal-is-man-ik, -iz-] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation, tal·is·man·i·cal, adjective
 * tal·is·man·i·cal·ly, adverb
 * Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)
 * Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006. ]


 * I think stating flatly that "a talisman is something written" may be a bit overstating the case. I realize that the second definition is not the best, but it's certainly a valid one.


 * * Septegram * Talk * Contributions * 14:05, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

I think Fetish already has (number 3) that covered, don't you? An amulet is not a rope and feathers, neither is a charm. Charms and spells may be used with this object, but they are not the object. Do you understand what I mean? It is a crafted work that has a purpose all its own, to me it is misleading to say it is the same as a talisman, considering you don't walk about carrying this on your person. But that could just be me. [User:Username|Username]] 29 July 2024

The external link is dead. I don't know enough about knot magic to find a suitable replacement. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Greengrey (talk • contribs) 16:48, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

from ancient India
Magical knot tying is recommended in an important Buddhist scripture composed in ancient India, The Medicine Master/Buddha Sutra, in whose final chapter certain minor divinities promise to assist believers and state: "They should tie five-colored strands with our names on them and untie them when their wishes are fulfilled.” This practice is traditionally explained as reciting the Medicine Buddha's mantra and the name of one divinity at every knot and, after getting one's wish, untying the knots (Tripitaka Master Hsuan Hua emphasises!) to release the obligation upon the divinities. 64.90.143.2 (talk) 00:37, 15 April 2011 (UTC)Samgwan Spiess

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