Talk:Wizardry

Werdna
"Werdna" is Andrew spelled backwards and one of the creators is named Andrew. --Wilbur 00:20, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

Just as "Trebor", the lord in the game who is tormented by Werdna is Robert spelled backwards, the other creator.

Unlisted title
There was a Wizardry title on the SNES that isn't listed,

"Wizardry 1-2-3 ~The Story of Llylgamyn~" I'm not sure of the year, but I know with 100% certainty this title exists. In fact, gamefaqs.com(before they went poop) had a walkthrough of the for the game up. but(since they went poop), the walkthrough, and mention of it's name is no longer found there.

And just because Gamefaqs doesn't list it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Just ask Aeon Genesis.


 * This page lists at least two Wizardry titles for the SNES. Edit to include if you like (and sign your posts next time). :-) &mdash; Frecklefoot | Talk 15:28, 17 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Indeed, this game exists, as I'm playing it right now! :) Strangely, however, for the SNES only (as far as I can tell), Wizardry 2 is Legacy of Llylgamyn and Wizardry 3 is Knight of Diamonds.  Does anybody have any information on the reasoning behind this strange switcheroo?  If so, please add it to the main page! --Rob (talk) 05:53, 8 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I don't have a source handy, but for the Famicom Wizardry ports (which the SNES trilogy was based on) Legacy of Llygamyn (I believe it was titled Wizardy II: The Third Scenario) was released prior to Knight of Diamonds (Wizardry III: The Second Scenario). It was rather odd that they did that, but I think the Super Famicom trilogy was kept that way for consistency.  Sudo edit this page (talk) 06:39, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Wizardry: Tale of the Forsaken Land
I thought this wasn't part of the main series in any way whatsoever (apart from a possible remake of the original), and consequently wasn't developed by Sirtech. Samx 22:23, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

More 3d Wizardrys
Apparently I enjoyed Wizardry 8 so much, that I can't seem to go back to playing the gridlike structure of the old Wizardrys. The fact that the DS Wizardry Asterix was gridlike instead of 3d disappointed me. I had heard that a Japanese developer aquired all rights to the game's name, and I'm just a little worried that if Wizardry 9 is developed (if ever) it would not be fully 3d, and would feature random encounters (like most Japanese RPGs are). What does everyone else think? Samx 22:23, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Wizards & Warriors
What about Wizards & Warriors - game made by author of Wizardry V, VI & VIII - David_W._Bradley ? http://www.heuristicpark.com/deep6.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.134.181.224 (talk) 12:00, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Akalabeth: World of Doom
Akalabeth was the first to use first-person perspective drawn dungeons, and was released a year prior to Wizardry. Trying to give this credit to Wizardry is factually incorrect. You can bet from the time Akalabeth was released to Wizardry's release that the creators had at least known about Akalabeth. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cleverwisdom (talk • contribs) 10:20, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Actually, there was a couple games on Control Data's Plato System, namely Labryith (SP?), which preceeded Akalabeth. Plato's proprietary keyboard also labeled (and used) the W-A-S-D keys with arrows, also used by the games written for Plato. So, Cleverwisdon... You need to do a little more research yourself, or at least have the experience of us old-timers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Scp747 (talk • contribs) 11:54, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

The PLATO game in question, with regards to both these points, is Moria_(PLATO) - you can play it at cyber1. moria was created around 1975 and shows a first-person perspective and uses the WAXD keys. It was the inspiration for Wizardry - as attested to by Robert Woodhead himself here - https://plus.google.com/109466015423371388551/posts/j2RLPBfPSw5 Nevster (talk) 02:21, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Removed bit about at that time
Unless all three games had listed how many days they had been out, and how many they sold at that time period, and how many they all went on to sell, then I don't think its really accurate. Don't see the point either. Just list the total that came out, compared to other games released about the same time.  D r e a m Focus  20:04, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

Stones of Arnhem
This article and/or the Wizardry 8 article could briefly mention Stones of Arnhem, a game that was in development but was never released. --82.136.210.153 (talk) 10:47, 28 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Probably worth a mention if it existed. Do you have any citations for it?  Sudo edit this page (talk) 06:40, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Busin/Tale of the Forsaken Land listing
Changed the primary title of this game to Tale of the Forsaken Land instead of Busin Alternative as per criteria 2 at Naming conventions (video games) Sudo edit this page (talk) 06:42, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Etrian Odyssey
Shouldn't the etrian games be mentioned in the section talking about wizardry's influence on other games? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.51.71.73 (talk) 06:17, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Table?
What does everyone think of putting the game in a table, like this:

Of course, we might have to have separate table for Japan and North America. This is just a start. Thoughts? Overkill? — Fr&epsilon;ckl&epsilon;fσσt | Talk 16:52, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

Should Spinoffs Be Considered in the "Latest Version" Entry
An odd question: ThiagoSimoes updated the infobox with the latest version, setting it to WizRogue's release data. The original series ended with Wizardry 8; WizRogue is a spin off by an unrelated company. Should WizRogue be considered as part of the series or not in this reguard -- i.e., is the latest release WizRogue or Wizardry 8? Elminage Original's PC port, arguably just as connected to the Wizardry series as WizRogue, came out more recently, and Demon Gaze 2 is coming soon as well. Is the infobox capable of handling any more complexity - I.e., a "Latest Official Release, Latest Spinoff Release type setup? KiTA (talk) 17:23, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

Source for Wizardry Empire

 * https://web.archive.org/web/20001101213357/http://www.zdnet.co.jp/gamespot/news/9907/06/news01.html

Source

 * https://archive.org/details/PC_Review_Issue_7_1992-05_EMAP_Images_GB/page/n33/mode/2up

Wizardry novel!
Call me crazy, but one of the first novels I read was "Wizardry: The League of the Crimson Crescent." I never played the games and honestly did not know they existed at the time. But I loved that book so much! I do not see any reference for it on this Wiki, and when I look up the book directly it does not mention a connection to the games. It can't be coincidence! 2600:1005:B117:4C96:FDE8:CF30:CA71:30B4 (talk) 02:16, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Hardcore Gaming 101 mentions it in this article. We could probably use that article to fill out the spinoffs and such here. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 03:33, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

"American spin-off game"
This section is a bit confusing; the games were originally released by Sir-Tech in the United States, so why is it phrased like "In 1996, the series received the first (and, so far, only) spin-off developed in North America" (emphasis added)? If it's the first and only spin-off game in general, then fine, it's just a spin-off game. If this is in reference to the fact that the main series has long since ended and the Wizardry franchise is big in Japan (via its own spin-off), then why not mention that? I don't know enough about the Wizardry franchise to rewrite it myself, but I guess that's the point: the way this section is written makes no sense to outsiders. Maybe move that section to after the "Japanese spin-off games" section? — 66.60.148.2 (talk) 23:21, 22 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Done: I specified that Nemesis is the only American spin-off because all the other 30+ spin-off games were made in Japan. ---Abacos (talk) 15:25, 4 March 2024 (UTC)