Talk:Wolfpack (naval tactic)

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At least I got the whole discussion rolling. Wasn't aware of what the Germans had presented. Thanks.

--morte 12:19, Apr 24, 2004 (UTC)

I hadn't heard of the American tactic being referred to as a wolf pack as well. Where's the source for this? Oberiko 14:03, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)


 * Numerous DANFS entries, to begin with. &#10149;the Epopt 03:56, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Termonology err
Just wanted to point out that paragraph 2 isn't nesisary, as that a group of Wolfs are referd to as a pack, and never as a pride or flock, so the only real way to traslate "Wolfsrudel" is as "Wolf Pack"

--A Naughty Mouse —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.245.142.229 (talk) 03:05, 10 December 2006 (UTC).

Termonology err 2
Also, Rudel applies only to canines, so pack is probably the sole right translation. (Changed that.) MartinKal 18:35, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
 * You are wrong, Rudel applies to any small number of wildlife Mammals

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudel_%28Jagd%29 (E-Kartoffel (talk) 12:26, 15 June 2011 (UTC))

Move
I see this has been moved from "Wolf pack" to here, without any discussion or agreement. I've opened a discussion here. Xyl 54 (talk) 00:58, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
 * A Second world war U-Boat tactic, loosely translated from German (who translated that?, when?), can't be the primary topic of wolf pack or wolfpack, meaning a pack of wolves, and additionally refers to several other things (E-Kartoffel (talk) 12:19, 15 June 2011 (UTC))

Post-Cold War- 2nd Paragraph
It reads - "Recently the phrase "wolfpack" has been applied to possible Iranian missile boat tactics in the event of an hypothetical clash with the U.S. Navy; a massive attack of small boats armed with missiles and torpedoes on a single (or a few) ships in order to overrun or saturate the Aegis defense system; such attacks allow the possibility of effective suicide boat deployment. " This is so terrible and wrong, and lacks a reference source. I say it should be deleted. The tactic is referred to as "swarming" around the US Navy, I have never heard it referred to as this. Wfoj3 (talk) 13:59, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Done: I couldn't find anything to verify any of this, so I've deleted it. I've added a place-holder comment, but we may not need this section at all... Xyl 54 (talk) 11:47, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Cold War
The statement that wolf packs fell out of use during the Cold War due to improved submarine technology is not, to my knowledge, accurate. Wolf pack tactics were abandoned by the US Navy for that reason (though I'm not convinced they were ever used extensively), but the Soviets continued to deploy their submarines in organized groups due to the technological advantages of the US. Seems like the Cold War section needs an extensive rewrite. FergusV9S (talk) 20:03, 28 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Done: Wolfpacks were a convoy attack measure; if ships aren't in convoy, and there isn't a shooting war on, then wolfpacks will be redundant. In which case submarines will be employed in all the other roles they've traditionally filled, all of which involve individual patrols. Anyway, I've re-written that bit. Xyl 54 (talk) 11:52, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Re-write
There’s a couple of things wrong with this article (see above), and it could do with expanding, so I’ve gone ahead and done it. I trust everyone is OK with that. Xyl 54 (talk) 11:42, 25 March 2020 (UTC)