Talk:Woman to Woman (Keyshia Cole album)/GA1

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Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 08:49, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

Following through with my commitment! --K. Peake 08:49, 17 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Thank you for reviewing this article. I have now followed every single direction given so far and completed re-editing the first half of the article. Fullmoon211 (talk) 14:01, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I am glad my comments thus far have been appreciated, though I have marked off what has not been done and can you provide a response here for the Chalice Recording point? --K. Peake 17:29, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I fixed everything else as well as the Chalice Recording point. --Fullmoon211 (talk) 18:08, 17 January 2023 (UTC)


 * I followed all of the last directions you had given and made another edit to the article. If there are any more errors, please let me know. Also, I noticed that you questioned whether one of the sources were reliable which I assume was the Daily Play MPE and I can confirm that it is considering that it's been used for the same information listed in a few other GA articles. I also wanted to keep the 2013 entry on the Top R&B Albums chart since that chart was first published a year after Woman to Woman was released. --Fullmoon211 (talk) 18:46, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

Infobox and lead

 * Add a genre to the infobox
 * ❌ the body sources R&B --K. Peake 17:29, 17 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Change the release date of "Trust and Believe" to October 2, 2012, per the source in the body
 * Maybe split the release into a sentence beginning with "It was released" and also mention the initially planned release date?
 * "of producers such as" → "of producers, such as" and mention less in the lead since there is too many listed at the moment for "such as"
 * "Vidal and Wonda." → "Vidal, and Wonda."
 * "Musically, Woman to Woman is an R&B album, that featured" → "Musically, the album is an R&B record that features"
 * ❌ --K. Peake 17:29, 17 January 2023 (UTC)


 * "Three tracks from the album were" → "Three tracks from Woman to Woman were"
 * ""Enough of No Love" was greeted with a positive reception" → "The song received a positive reception"
 * "chart as well as reaching the top-ten" → "chart, as well as reaching the top-10" per MOS:NUM
 * "on October 22, 2012," → "on October 2, 2012," per earlier
 * Pipe urban contemporary to Urban contemporary music
 * "and the album's concept." → "and the concept."
 * "debuted at number ten on" → "debuted at number 10 on"
 * "Woman to Woman also peaked at" → "It also peaked at" to avoid using the title twice
 * "The album was further promoted through" → "Further promotion was done by Cole through"

Background and development

 * "her fourth studio album, titled" → "her fourth studio album"
 * "The album spawned two singles," → "It spawned the two singles" to avoid overusage of commas
 * Add chart after Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs
 * "and also revealed that she had plans to" → "and also had plans to"
 * "albums and described the album as a "return to her roots"" → "albums, and described it as a return "to her roots"" per the source
 * The "her ladies" part is not backed up by the source
 * "revealed that she planned on working with several artists such as" → "revealed she planned on working with several artists, such as"
 * "Ester Dean, and Trey Songz, among others."
 * [11][12] should be swapped to correspond with the information
 * Mention the name of the reality television series since the source provides it

Recording and production

 * Quote box looks good!
 * Remove overly obvious link on Los Angeles
 * I am confused about Chalice Recording Studios; is this part of Geffen's headquarters since and is used here even though more studios are listed afterwards? If not, change to a comma.
 * Change New York to New York City (NYC) with no link
 * Add a comma before "and Cole's home studio"
 * Wikilink Cleveland to itself
 * "The album's tracks were" → "The tracks were"
 * "in New York City, New York and" → "in NYC and"
 * "in Los Angeles, California." → "in Los Angeles."
 * "Toxic and Ester Dean." → "Toxic, and Dean."
 * "for the album." → "for Woman to Woman."
 * "with since her second studio album," → "since her second studio album" because you use with earlier on in this sentence
 * "who co-wrote several songs on the album." → "who co-wrote several of the songs."
 * ❌ --K. Peake 17:29, 17 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Thisis50 should not be italicised
 * "that the album reflected around her musical growth and that she" → "that Woman to Woman reflected around her musical growth and she"
 * "lives as well"." → "lives as well."" per MOS:QUOTE

Music and lyrics

 * Remove pipe on hip hop
 * "where she isn't appreciated," → "where she is not appreciated,"
 * "Joseline Hernandez and Mimi Faust" → "Joseline Hernandez, and Mimi Faust"
 * Pipe chorus to Refrain
 * "know the rules?"." → "know the rules?"" per MOS:QUOTE
 * ❌ --K. Peake 17:29, 17 January 2023 (UTC)


 * The post-breakup anthem quote is not sourced
 * "that things couldn't work out." → "that things did not work out."
 * "that sticks with the same type" → "that follows the same type"
 * Remove wikilink on instrumentation
 * ❌ --K. Peake 17:29, 17 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Pipe jazzy soul to Soul jazz
 * "she starts singing on the chorus," → "she starts singing the chorus of" since this is not a full sentence quoted
 * "used to, own it"." → "used to, own it."" per MOS:QUOTE
 * "man, and have a" → "man and have a"
 * "with Elijah Blake that captures" → "with Blake that captures"
 * Wikilink as snare drums
 * Wikilink techno to itself
 * Remove overly obvious wikilink on piano
 * "the tenth track, "Hey Sexy"" → "the 10th track "Hey Sexy"" per MOS:NUM, but the 10th position is not sourced
 * Pipe 1990s to 1990s in music
 * "from Robin Thicke and centers around" → "from Robin Thicke, and centers around"
 * "history who don't want to" → "history, who do not want to"
 * "a love song about" → "is a love song about"
 * "with lyrics such as these lines," → "with lines such as," but these are not sourced

Release and artwork

 * "The album's cover artwork was" → "Its cover artwork was" with the pipe
 * "photoshoot and the photoshoot took place" → "photoshoot, which took place"
 * "in New York City, New York in celebration of the album" → "in NYC to celebrate Woman to Woman"
 * "with people such as" → "with the likes of"
 * "Michaela Angela Davis and" → "Michaela Angela Davis, and"
 * If "it's literally me" is not the actual start of a sentence, remove the preceding colon
 * "guaranteed her fans that they would like it," → "guaranteed the enjoyment of her fans," or something similar to avoid using "it" twice
 * "The album was first expected" → "Woman to Woman was first expected"
 * "to November 19," → "to November 19, 2012,"
 * "On October 17," → "On November 2,"
 * "for the album was held on November 5 in Los Angeles, California." → "for it was held in Los Angeles on November 5, 2012."

Promotion

 * I'm not sure about this order; maybe singles should come first since they are more significant and the first one was before the first performance?

Live performances and tour

 * "on BET on November 4." → "via BET on November 4, 2012."
 * "On November 16, she" → "On November 16, 2012, Cole"
 * "Big Jam event where" → "Big Jam event, where"
 * "aired on BET on" → "aired through BET on"
 * "On July 3, she performed" → "On July 3, 2013, Cole performed"
 * "strong vocalists as acts on the tour," → "strong vocalists as support acts,"
 * Remove pipe on Brandy
 * Pipe Mateo to Iman Jordan

Singles

 * "The album's lead single," → "The lead single from Woman to Woman,"
 * Remove wikilink on "Enough of No Love"
 * Remove wikilink on Lil Wayne
 * "Debuting at number 94 on the" → "Debuting at number 94 on the US"
 * Wikilink music video
 * "rapping his verse will sitting atop a" → "rapping his verse sat atop a"
 * Remove wikilink on "Trust and Believe"
 * "number two on the Bubbling Under Hot 100 and peaked at number 32" → "number two on the US Bubbling Under Hot 100 and number 32"
 * "The song's accompanying music video," → "The song's music video,"
 * Pipe urban contemporary to Urban contemporary music
 * "as the album's third single." → "as the third single of Woman to Woman."
 * "on the Adult R&B Songs chart" → "on the US Adult R&B Songs chart" but the number of weeks is not sourced
 * "The black-and-white music video," → "Its black-and-white music video," with the pipe
 * "displayed a story of Cole" → "displays a story of Cole"
 * Remove wikilink on BET
 * Remove wikilink on 106 & Park

Critical reception

 * Pipe About.com to Dotdash Meredith
 * Change to Artistdirect with the wikilink
 * "received generally positive reviews" → "was met with generally positive reviews"
 * Remove pipe on music critics
 * AllMusic should not be italicised
 * Artistdirect should not be italicised
 * ""essential record" and highlighted" → ""essential record", and highlighted"
 * Pipe About.com to Dotdash Meredith
 * Remove the stars rating from prose per the reviews box and only keep what he labeled it as
 * "designated it "Album of the Week," summarizing that" → "designated Woman to Woman "Album of the Week", summarizing:"
 * "that it "[threatened] to" → "that this "threaten[ed] to"
 * "the lead-up, the aftermath."" → "the lead-up, the aftermath"." per MOS:QUOTE
 * "viewing its theme as "strong" as well as" → "viewing the theme as "strong", as well as"
 * "deemed it a" → "deemed the album a"
 * "Dave DiMartino, writing for Rolling Stone," → "Dave DiMartino, for Rolling Stone,"
 * "and turmoil" and considered it among her" → "and turmoil", and considered it among Cole's"
 * "openness about herself."" → "openness about herself"."
 * Pipe ballads to Sentimental ballad
 * "and felt that she showed" → "and felt that she shows"

Accolades

 * Italicise Soul Bounce
 * "named it the year's third best record." → "named it the year's third best R&B record."
 * "ranked it as" → "ranked the album as"
 * "on the album as well as viewing the record as" → "on it, as well as identifying"

Commercial performance

 * "top ten album in" → "top 10 album in" per MOS:NUM
 * "debuting at number ten on the" → "debuted at number 10 on the US" and place this before the fifth consecutive part, changing that to becoming
 * "chart with 96,000 copies" → "chart, with 96,000 copies"
 * Remove the number 15 drop per WP:CHARTTRAJ
 * "sold a total of 246,300 copies in the United States" → "had sold a total of 246,300 copies in the US" per MOS:US
 * "those component charts as well as the" → "these component charts and the"

Track listing

 * Pipe Vidal Davis to Dre & Vidal
 * Should artists like Vidal and DJ Camper that are easily identified by their first introductions in songwriters be linked again under producers? If so, fix any redirects anyway.
 * Pipe Darhyl Camper, Jr. to Darhyl Camper
 * Pipe Ashanti Douglas to Ashanti (singer)

Credits and personnel

 * Shouldn't these be sub-headings instead?
 * Pipe Darhyl "DJ" Camper, Jr. to Darhyl Camper
 * Pipe Carlos "Los" McKinney to Carlos McKinney
 * Pipe Bink! to Bink! (record producer)
 * Why is Humble Monsta after Bink!?
 * Pipe mastering to Mastering (audio)

Weekly charts

 * Is the Top R&B Albums re-entry really notable?

Year-end charts

 * Good

Release history

 * Deluxe is not sourced for the Japanese release
 * Pipe Universal Japan to Universal Music Japan

Final comments and verdict

 * until all of the issues are fixed; the refs look a bit sloppy but the article is not far off! --K. Peake 10:12, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
 * This article is not fully complete since you still need to change the United States to the US on the second instance, link Bink! to Bink (record producer) (sorry about the incorrect link before but why is Humble Monsta still there?), cite Brittney Walker's name last to first and remove PR Newswire. --K. Peake 10:48, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I have now fixed all of these errors except for the last one as I feel that PR Newswire is a reliable source especially since its cited in multiple other GA articles. --Fullmoon211 (talk) 13:16, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
 * You may have thought that, but WP:RSP lists it as unreliable so you must remove and sometimes things are missed in GA reviews; see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS for why that reasoning is false. --K. Peake 14:51, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok, I fixed it. I changed the first one sourcing Enough of No Love's radio/digital release to Directlyrics and the one providing information on the tour announcement to BroadwayWorld. --Fullmoon211 (talk) 15:32, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ now, this is definitely an improvement! --K. Peake 19:17, 19 January 2023 (UTC)