Talk:Women, girls and information technology

Merge with women in computing ?
Women In Computing is a different subject matter than Women, girls and Information Technology. The two should not be combined. Women In Computing is about significant individuals in computing/IT. That article is OK and should be left alone. Women, girls and Information Technology is mostly about a current issue in society today - why girls/women are not going into IT related fields, and the social reasons for and ramifications of this. This article should be cleaned up - ideas: (a)remove the references to significant women in the field of IT, and place them in the "Women In Computing" article if they are not there already - keep the articles crossreferenced (b)consider renaming the article - something short, but the title right now is not very illuminating (c) add any positive material possible (examples: if there are lots of opportunity to excel in IT for a woman right now because it is a male dominated field or if there are any programs out there to mitigate this problem) Casey Texas —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.83.220.204 (talk • contribs) 05:42, 12 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I agree. Separate topics. Do not merge. --lquilter 14:26, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
 * After almost 2 months there have been no arguments to merge and everyone agrees to not merge. I removed the merge template from this and other page. --lquilter 14:29, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree. Furthermore, I don't believe notable business women should be included in the list of "famous women in IT/Computing", especially if the list is to be moved to Women in computing. They are notable in a completely different sense. Chanvin2 (talk) 23:54, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I suggest that the title of the article to be changed. Something like "Gender disparity issues in Computing" will do, since a good deal of the article contents discuss these differences between males and females. Chanvin2 (talk) 00:01, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
 * this article is a great start and should not be merged with the also-good Women in computing, but I agree with Chanvin2 that the title should be changed. I'm having a lot of trouble coming up with a new one, so I'll add a section to this talk page about it. Leigh Honeywell (talk) 04:34, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Change title to 'gender and computing' ? Even 'women and computing' is better than having girls in the title. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.14.229.10 (talk) 22:47, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't know if the content of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_computing has changed over the past couple of years but AFAICT it now includes overlapping content with this page and is not only "about significant individuals in computing/IT". In particular it addresses the issue that gender participation in IT is affected by culture (e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_computing#International_perspective) which is relevant to this topic and not yet mentioned on this page.123.100.109.218 (talk) 12:55, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
 * while I agree that the two are, by nature separate topics, I also think that women and girls in IT and women in computing can be a subsets of the larger umbrella of women in technology. After all, there are many different facets to technology and I think a 'women in technology' page would be best to encompass all of these different facets (Quest Atkinson) —Preceding undated comment added 00:38, 30 October 2011 (UTC).

Expand: factors hindering women's involvement

 * Listed aspects of gender disparity as possible factor. Possible other factors: lack of role model, stereotyping. Chanvin2 (talk) 07:13, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

pep talks
This page should really be eliminated. Wikipedia is not a place for pep talks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.9.213.101 (talk • contribs) 19:11, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Who said anything about pep talks? This page is a good discussion of factors contributing to the low numbers of women in CS, which is an interesting sociological phenomenon. Perhaps you meant to flag it as npov (which I don't think it is, but whatever)? Leigh Honeywell (talk) 02:45, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Just needs some cleaning u and a different title name...l.a.s 07:24, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Merge: Declination of women in computer science in Canada
I'm proposing that Declination of women in computer science in Canada be merged into this article. The content seems to fit, some is duplicated, and I don't think that the decline of women in CS in Canada (as much as I am personally interested in the topic as a Canadian computer scientist) needs its own article. Leigh Honeywell (talk) 04:15, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Rename to something more descriptive of the content
I really like this article but want to see it renamed to something more appropriate for the content, which mostly concerns the reasons behind the low numbers of women involved in CS and IT. Chanvin2 suggested "Gender disparity issues in Computing" but it's not quite right. Other suggestions? Leigh Honeywell (talk) 04:34, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

How about just "Gender Disparity in Computing"? I agree that a name change is in order, and that it shouldn't merge with Women in Computing.--65.78.24.207 (talk) 01:42, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

I also think a name change would work for this article, I do not think it should be merged into women in computing, because it is a different topic all together. Also this article is lacking content.(Vjordan87) 19:27, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

How about, "Gender Disparity in Information Technology", I feel there is a need to leave "Information Technology" in the title because this article is about women in IT not necessarily computing.(Vjordan87) 19:35, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I like the title "Gender Disparity in Information Technology, and do not think it should be merged with Womin in computing.Meatsgains (talk) 23:47, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

I also agree that a new title is needed and that "Gender Disparity in Information Technology" is a good change. (Meaghan23) —Preceding undated comment added 12:37, 25 October 2011 (UTC).

I think Gender Disparity in Information Technology is a great idea since it encompasses the challenge for females regardless of age. One con of this title may be that the article might be harder to search for. Think, for example, the search terms you used to find this article. More than likely you typed "women in IT" or "women in information technology" or even "girls in technology". It may even be worth it to see if Wikipedia has any tracking tools for the page. The traffic for this page has been pretty dead for a while. I'd be interested in seeing the changes to traffic after the change. (Quest Atkinson) —Preceding undated comment added 00:46, 30 October 2011 (UTC).

Change of Title for Lack of Opportunity? Lack of Awareness? Lack of Interest?
I changed the section title Lack of Opportunity? Lack of Interest? Lack of Awareness? to Lack of Educational Opportunities, Interest and Awareness because I felt it better refelected the content of that section. I also deleted a paragraph that was not cited properly and seemed more like a personal reflection. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MeaghanN23 (talk • contribs) 13:21, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Changing the Gender Disparity
I added the section Changing the Gender Disparity, last Tuesday because I felt this article needs to show how this issues of gender in information technology is being addressed within the field. This helps give a broader understanding of the importance women have in IT. Vjordan87 (talk) 15:53, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Lack of Acknowledgement and Promotion of Skills
This subsection was added to create a more comprehensive list of reasons why there is challenge with attracting and retaining females in the IT industry. While the 3 reasons previously listed gave readers a good idea of major deterrents for females that have been long researched, they did not encompass the more social, but important, aspect of acknowledgement, advocacy and promotion. Advocacy is very important especially when looking to increase female retention. When our work is praised and supported, we are more likely to stick around at a company that values us. Quest Atkinson (talk)

Wikipedia Ambassador Program course assignment
This article is the subject of an educational assignment at University of Toronto supported by WikiProject Wikipedia and the Wikipedia Ambassador Program&#32;during the 2011 Q3 term. Further details are available on the course page.

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