Talk:Women in Turkish politics

Scope of the article
I changed the name to "Women in Turkish politics" as the article exceeded the borders of a mere list of female MPs. Now we have non-parliamentarian ministers and party leaders. Therefore we should create a "mayors" section and perhaps also a "muhtars" section too. --E4024 (talk) 09:40, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
 * We should add Behice Boran to party leaders. --E4024 (talk) 09:45, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I've already added Behice Boran's name on the 1st of Feb. As for the images, it's difficult. Because of copyright problems no images (other than those declared public property) from the press can be used in WP. Funny isn't it? Tens of images of the people lived centuries ago and almost no images of the modern people...Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 13:50, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Nedim Bey. I cannot thank you enough for your contributions to this article. Would you mind adding the President of the Türkiye Ulusal Kadınlar Partisi, another of those parties closed after the 1980 coup, to the article? Thanks in advance. --E4024 (talk) 14:06, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Developing the article
Ah! And we need pics of these women politicians. Nedim Bey, Rapsar, other friends, please help. --E4024 (talk) 09:43, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Wrong info
Hatice Özgener was elected deputy not in 1935 but in 1936. Takabeg (talk) 15:20, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

DYK
Can't we make a DYK nomination from this article? Who knows how to? --E4024 (talk) 17:10, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
 * The article eligibility time is done. It would need to have been nominated by 1 February 2013.  It would also need to have been fully supported by inline sources and it isn't.  At the same time, the article has a tag at the top which would also rule it ineligible. --LauraHale (talk) 17:53, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Heeyyy, in the end girl power is here! Thank you very much Laura for being around. I will add a few lines at the TP of the Turkish women article and will hope you and other good girls in WP to give us a hand in that article. Follow me please. Best. --E4024 (talk) 18:18, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Either new articles or articles with major contributions are candidates for DYK. If you prepare a major contribution at once, this article may be a DYK article. But we should find new academic (and English if possible) references . Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 18:50, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Turkish women's struggle for political rights
This was what I was looking for, if I remember well. Nedim Bey you can also use it; don't wait for me... --E4024 (talk) 14:52, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Not the first
I am thankfull to all contributers, provided of course that the contributions are accurate. One editor continuously edits that the first Turkish female government minister was İmren Aykut. But this is not correct. In fact her name is shown in the accompanying list as the third female minister.Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 09:09, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Page move without debate
I reverted a page move ("Women in Turkish Politics" -> "Turkish women in politics") that was done without debate. Due to the significance of ethno-national identity, ethnic conflicts and power relations in Turkey in relation to Kurdish people, moving a page on women in Turkey's politics to a page the name of which exclusively specifies "Turkish" women is controversial (and I'd argue, unproductive and restrictive). At the very least, such a naming scheme would be construed as insensitivity to Kurds' ethno-national concerns on the part of Wikipedia. In a worst case scenario, the scheme would be used to expunge any information related to Kurdish women in Turkish politics off of the page. In case my revert is to be disputed, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves#Requesting_controversial_and_potentially_controversial_moves Mehmetaergun (talk) 15:18, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
 * There isn't much difference between the two. All people of profession in Turkey (except foreign citizens serving in Turkey) are Turkish people regardless of their ethnical background. However I don't like time consuming warring and I won't revert the changes. As for the claim debateless move, that's an example of double standard. The accuser is the very same editor who has moved the template Turkish Women without any call for a discussion today. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 19:32, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
 * No accusations have been made; the comment was meant to explain and substantiate the revert. One of the reasons why I reverted the renaming and additionally moved the template in question (the reasoning of which I tried explaining in its talk page) was to preempt these discussions and the argument above re: citizenship and naming. To you there might not be a difference, to others it is called turkification / identity erasure. Indeed the law in Turkey dictates that all who have citizenship in Turkey are to be called "Turk", but then again, that law is a good example to how a state can deny the ethnic diversity of its citizenry in line with an unproductive (and often, violent) policy of internal ethno-national homogenization. Indeed, Turkey does not have the fairest legal framework when it comes to the protection of ethnic minorities' rights. Much simpler when the title is "Women in Turkish politics." Mehmetaergun (talk) 19:50, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

Why are there empty sections
Why are there sections that just say 'there have been no female 'X' to date. Everybody reading would assume that since the role isn't mentioned. Seems pretty pointless to me. ― TaltosKieronTalk 23:52, 22 August 2022 (UTC)