Talk:WoodSpring Hotels

Contested deletion
This page should not be speedily deleted because... (your reason here) --98.223.130.125 (talk) 10:56, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

This company already had an entry "Value Place" The company is changing it's name, so this page will eventually replace that one. If that page is existing, this page should not be an issue.

Contested deletion
This page should not be speedily deleted because it is factual and written in a manner like that. This is about an organization that many people will want to learn about. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.112.171.98 (talk) 11:02, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
 * No one has said it is not factual, but the page does not indicate with independent reliable sources what is notable or significant about this hotel chain per the notability guidelines for businesses. Things like the Forbes magazine claim need citation as well as the "fastest growing" claim. 331dot (talk) 11:05, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Contested deletion
This page should not be speedily deleted because... (your reason here) --Anthony Nagy (talk) 11:11, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

This page is offering consumers important information about a new brand in the hospitality market. This organization already has a page on Wiki, "Value Place" and the new "WoodSpring Suites" entry is educating consumers about the transition from Value Place to WoodSpring Suites. If Value Place is existing here on Wiki now, why is the new entry being contested? Also, every major brand has a presence on Wiki.
 * If there is already a page about this hotel chain, then this page should be deleted as a duplicate and the other page moved to this name. Wikipedia is not for educating consumers; it is for articles about subjects demonstrated to be notable per notability guidelines (in this case, for businesses) with independent reliable sources(which both this page and Value Place does not do). Also, other stuff exists and the fact that other chains might have pages does not mean this one should. 331dot (talk) 11:23, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
 * And I've tidied up that other article, Value Place. It was not a good foundation to base this one on. —S MALL  JIM   11:27, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

I'm just trying to get this posted within the guidelines. So all we need are references to the areas that you mentioned in earlier response (Forbes and fastest growing)? --Anthony Nagy (talk) 11:44, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
 * FYI, to make further comments on this page, please edit it directly instead of clicking "contest" every time. As I state above, if there is already a page on this chain, this page should be deleted and the other page moved here.  Either way, those claims do need citations. 331dot (talk) 11:47, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Contested deletion
This business change is real and effective today. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.112.171.98 (talk) 11:57, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
 * No one has said it is not real; please see the posts above. 331dot (talk) 11:59, 23 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Further to 331dot's comments, I would say that you need the following:
 * If appropriate, a statement from you that you have read and understood our guidance on conflict of interest and will abide by it.
 * Evidence that the company has changed its name.
 * As many reliable and independent sources that discuss the company (both under its former and new names) as can be found.
 * Assuming that notability can be clearly shown (per 3), the two articles should then be merged into one (under the new name) with the old name remaining as a redirect to the new. In fact it's probably best to delete this page and edit Value Place to add the references and update it, then have it moved to this title.
 * —S MALL JIM   12:00, 23 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Update: I've changed this article to a redirect to the former name per point 4 above until the other points can be cleared up. —S MALL  JIM   14:39, 24 April 2015 (UTC)