Talk:Woodlawn Cemetery (Detroit)

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 * My work on this article is dedicated to the memory of Dale Northup whose book on Woodlawn Cemetery was born the same week that he died. No, he is not burried in Wooddlawn. Carptrash 02:47, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Willie Benjamin Jackson
I can find no newspaper stories, obituaries or any other information that states Willie Benjamin Jackson had any impact beyond his own church/congregation whose webpage is at http://netministries.org/frames.asp?ch=ch31148&st=MI&name=Redeem%20Church%20of%20God%20in%20Christ&city=Detroit. As such, I do not feel he would fit the definition of "notable" as few, if any people outside that congregation would recognize his name.Goldnpuppy (talk) 18:07, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

--99.60.184.133 (talk) 13:11, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
 * On 01:03, 8 June 2011, I provided a hyperlink to the obituary for Pastor Willie Benjamin Jackson, Jr. that appeared in The Michigan Chronicle in the April 6-12, 2011 issue. This was my final contribution for that day and my last attempt to fulfill the requests of Goldnpuppy.
 * On 01:22, 8 June 2011, Goldnpuppy requested Page Protection for this article to block my contributions.
 * On 01:29, 8 June 2011, Fastily, an administrator, contacted me for the first time to issue his Last Warning. Fastily is the only administrator who has ever contacted me regarding this article.
 * On 02:33, 8 June 2011, Goldnpuppy reported my contribution to an administrator as vandalism to block my contributions to the entire encyclopedia.
 * On 02:42, 8 June 2011, Fastily blocked my account for "Repeated Vandalism."
 * On 03:04, 8 June 2011, Goldnpuppy removed the hyperlink to the obituary that I provided on 01:03, 8 June 2011.

The block was requested because of unresponsiveness/disregard to prior requests:
 * On 11 April 2011, an entry was posted on the discussion page (above) regarding the appropriateness of this entry and you did not respond or provide any additional information.
 * On 17 April 2011 at 8:32, you received a note from an administrator regarding lack of sources for this entry on your [|User talk page], yet you reposted the same entry without sources six times between 17 April and 22 April.
 * On May 3, you received a message regarding posting of personal analyses in another article. The statements were removed and you reposted them within 60 minutes, again with no reply or explanation.
 * On 28 April 2011, the reference you posted (a YouTube video) for the entry was tagged as a self-published source. You did not reply nor provide any explanation, such as you were researching additional references, and the entry was removed 5 June.

While the Michigan Chronicle obituary is a verifiable-reference, and I am sure that this person was significant to the members of his particular church, there is no mention in it to qualify the entry as "notable" from among the founders of dozens of other churches in the area or that even make it stand-out from any of other obituaries that accompany it.Goldnpuppy (talk) 17:49, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Goldnpuppy, “notability” is a subjective term that you seek to define by banning any user who disagrees with you. I would never deliver trumped up charges to an administrator merely to stop you from expressing your point of view in an encyclopedia. This is not collaborative editing. It is mean spirited, character assassination at a cemetery. I have had more success editing the article of Pope John Paul II than I have had with Woodlawn Cemetery (Detroit, MI). Which article is more notable? The most notable person at Woodlawn Cemetery (Detroit, MI) is someone who is not buried there: Michael Jackson. Therefore, some people might say that the entire article is not notable and should be tagged for deletion, especially since few people have expressed any interest in this article. Furthermore, it could be argued that you and I are not notable. Yet, we have had the nerve to fill the hard drives at Wikipedia with streams of words projecting our points of view. Instead, we could simply list the names of everyone in the cemetery for a fraction of the space we have used.

Please pardon me for referring to the home of Matilda Dodge as "magnificent." However, if you compare her home to ours, then what word would be more appropriate?--99.60.184.133 (talk) 02:20, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
 * The #1 definition for "Magnificent" is 1. Impressively beautiful, elaborate, or extravagant; striking. That sounds a lot like Meadow Brook Hall to me. Carptrash (talk) 04:53, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, Goldnpuppy, for helping to tell the international community about Pastor Willie Benjamin Jackson, Jr. You could have given him merely a one line reference; instead, you gave him his own discussion page. Some people would say that he was notable because of his radio ministry or his work to save souls in his church, district, or jurisdiction. Some people might say that his expert knowledge of automotive painting helped a number of his students to live productive lives. Some people might say he was notable because he was a personal friend of John Henry Sheard, Chairman of the Board of Bishops, Church of God in Christ, Worldwide. Bishop Sheard also delivered the eulogy at Pastor Jackson’s second funeral service. But I say that he was notable because he was a pastor who you could trust. He was an honest and humble man. Neither you nor I will easily forget the name of Pastor Willie Benjamin Jackson, Jr. Our multiple revisions with their date stamps will be recorded for years in the archives of this great encyclopedia. May you enjoy editing this article in the years ahead. --99.60.184.133 (talk) 02:20, 10 June 2011 (UTC)