Talk:Woodpecker/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Dunkleosteus77 (talk · contribs) 05:55, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

Comments by Dunkleosteus77

 * The caption is way too long for the image in the General characteristics section, pick one topic to briefly glance over in the caption, and let the article do most of the explaining  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 05:55, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
 * You keep switching from singular to plural, like with, "The largest surviving species is the great slaty woodpecker..." and right next to it, "the probably extinct imperial woodpeckers," be consistent where you can  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 05:55, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Basic rule of thumb for commas and adjectives, if you can't switch them, use a comma (like, "... have short strong legs," should be, "... have short, strong legs") I fixed that last one by the way  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 05:55, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
 * You seem to be wikilinking things in the lead and then not in the rest of the article. If you wikilink something in the lead, you still have to wikilink the first mention of it in the rest of the article  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 05:55, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
 * You may want to wikilink all the big, sciencey words (like "collagen fibers"). Think of it like if sixth-grade you didn't know it, wikilink it  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 05:55, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
 * "It had been reported..." I think it should be, "It has been reported..."  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 05:55, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Did you at one point reshuffle this article a bit? I noticed that sometimes words aren't wikilinked on their first mention but are wikilink some ways later (like piculets)  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 05:55, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
 * You sometimes overlink words (right now I see passerine and cactus are wikilinked twice)  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 05:55, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Use this converter to convert ISBN-10 to ISBN-13 as per WP:ISBN  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 05:55, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
 * The Relationship with humans section could use a picture, maybe of one of those woodpeckers discussed in the Status and conservation section  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 05:55, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
 * ref no. 3 and 6 are incomplete  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 05:55, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you for taking on this review. I think I have dealt with all the points you raised, and I agree that the article was grossly overlinked. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:59, 24 July 2017 (UTC)


 * I think ref no. 29 is a deadlink  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 22:16, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
 * In the further reading section, the link for "A phylogenetic analysis of woodpeckers and their allies using 12S, Cyt b, and COI nucleotide sequences (class Aves; order Piciformes)" won't open for me (but that just might be by crap wifi)  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 22:16, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
 * what's the source for the List of genera section?  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 22:16, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
 * you wikilinked bill twice and wryneck on the second mention in the General characteristics section
 * Done these apart from the list of genera. That predated my involvement with the article, and if you think it is important, I shall have to make enquiry at the Birds Project page. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:41, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
 * that might be best because some species may have been invalidated since whenever this list was made, or it may be incomplete  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 21:14, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I asked at the Bird Project page and Shyamal has added some references for the "List of Genera" section. Are you happy with that? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:24, 28 July 2017 (UTC)


 * By the way, if you're taking this to FA, you might want to get more recent refs. I see one from the 1984 and another from the 1800s  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 21:18, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure that's an issue, it depends on what is being cited. Sabine's Sunbird  talk  04:48, 26 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the useful review. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:28, 28 July 2017 (UTC)