Talk:Woolly rhinoceros/GA1

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Reviewer: Dunkleosteus77 (talk · contribs) 00:32, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

Dunkleosteus77

 * I was actually kinda looking to write this one but I guess you beat me to it. Overall, I think the main issues are some paragraphs are unreferenced, wordiness, and to a lesser degree vagueness or seemingly incomplete thoughts  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 00:32, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
 * We don't wikilink continents and countries per WP:Overlink  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 00:32, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
 * You still here?  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 16:01, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi, I'm here. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 17:41, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Did you respond to my comments below? It's been almost 2 weeks  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 18:22, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Yea, all of them. I added most of the notes for the description. I decided to remove the parts about evolution that didn't have explanation. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 19:23, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
 * When you resolved one of my comments below you should tell me because I'm not watching the page  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 02:58, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * If I make a comment and you did something to the article to resolve it, could you respond to my comment telling me you resolved it? Right now it feels like you've gone inactive  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 02:42, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't think you understand what I'm saying (mainly because you're not doing it). So I make a bullet point about what you need to do. Once you have done that, tell me you did it by directly responding to every comment, or at the very least, put a bullet point saying you've responded to all the above. As far as I can tell, you've stopped responding and I'm about ready to fail it for inactivity  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 00:26, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Did all of that. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 20:15, 22 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Make sure every paragraph ends in with a reference  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 02:58, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Access date are only used for websites and magazines, not journal articles (even if you included an online link)  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 02:58, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Italicize scientific names even in the titles of references  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 02:58, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * When you get to 12 inches, convert to feet  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 17:18, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * You need a Taxonomy section talking about who first described the woolly rhinoceros, what the scientific name translates to, and basic research history  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 17:05, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Does it have any taxonomic synonyms?  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 17:05, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Added both Taxonomy and Paleobiology sections. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 21:08, 8 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Did all the rest as well. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 20:15, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * When converting from cm to imperial units, convert to ft if it's more than 1 ft  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 21:03, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm seeing a lot of grammatical mistakes, you should read over it again  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 21:03, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * What in particular. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 17:02, 23 December 2019 (UTC)


 * There are a lot of sentences on behavior which are way too definitive. Behavior is always speculative  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 21:03, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Edited some. Any left that should be changed? Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 17:02, 23 December 2019 (UTC)


 * The taxobox only shows 1 synonym, but the Taxonomy section lists a lot more <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 16:40, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Added some. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 17:01, 23 December 2019 (UTC)


 * A general drive-by comment, the lead section is way too short, it should summarise the article, not it's just a few sentences. THe article certainly needs expansion if it is going to FAC some day, there is a lot of info left out. FunkMonk (talk) 03:42, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I haven't even started checking for completeness yet. The article still probably needs expansion to even get to GA <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 15:16, 28 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Since the rhino lived in Europe, the article should be written in British English per MOS:TIES <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 15:16, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Evolution

 * The first paragraph of doesn't really talk about evolution, and the first sentence is kind of unnecessarily complicated with terms like "derived" which isn't really used to say any important phylogenetic information which is really the only context it should be used in. What you could say is something more direct like "The wooly rhinoceros is the most derived of its genus" <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 00:32, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I think the 2nd paragraph needs a little bit more explanation. Were the ancestors tropical or adapted to the alpine climates of the Himalayas? Were the Himalayas alpine yet? How does its evolution in humid areas speak to its absence in the Miocene?
 * The parts about Stephanorhinus could probably be condensed into a single sentence so it's easier to catch onto your train of thought. Something like "A 1.77 million year old Stephanorhinus hemitoechus rhino mummy may represent the ancestral stock/whatever you were getting at to Coelodonta". Also, I'm not really understanding how Stephanorhinus was identified as the ancestral stock because they seemed to have lived contemporaneously <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 00:32, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Why does it say the ancestors of the wooly rhino evolved 2 mya but the taxobox gives a fossil range from 3.6 mya? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 00:32, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
 * The third par doesn't have a source, and it could be heavily condensed. Something like, "The wooly rhino is thought to descend from either the Eurasian C. tologoijensis or the Tibetan C. thibetana. It evolved at the end of the Early Pleistocene nearly 300 kya, and spread into northern and western Europe." <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 00:32, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
 * "The members of Coelodonta turned out to be more adapted to a variety of conditions compared to elasmotheres" How is this related to evolution? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 02:58, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Rewrote the section. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 20:15, 22 December 2019 (UTC)


 * "A 1.77 million year old Stephanorhinus hemitoechus rhino mummy may also represent the ancestral stock to Coelodonta" contradicts "a 3.6-million-year-old woolly rhinoceros fossil" <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 21:03, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Changed it. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 16:25, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
 * "A 1.77 million year old Stephanorhinus hemitoechus rhino mummy may also represent a sister group to Coelodonta" you didn't word this right. Why is only Stephanorhinus hemitoechus the sister group? What about other Stephanorhinus? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 16:32, 23 December 2019 (UTC)


 * "The closest extinct relative to the woolly rhinoceros is Elasmotherium, which appeared on the evolutionary arena before the genus Coelodonta" no it didn't if the wooly rhinoceros came about 3.6 mya, and there doesn't seem to be consensus on Elasmotherium's affinities <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 21:03, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Removed the latter part. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 16:25, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
 * The latter part of what? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 16:37, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
 * "Evolutionary arena". Didn't add indentation. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 16:40, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
 * "The closest extinct relative to the woolly rhinoceros is Elasmotherium. These two lines were divided in the first half of the Miocene." This is only 1 viewpoint of rhino evolution. There're other hypotheses. Go find them <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 15:07, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Description

 * "Two horns on the skull were..." you should probably go with "The two horns..." to avoid implying there were more <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 00:32, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Done. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 20:15, 22 December 2019 (UTC)


 * You should go with front and back horns instead of anterior and posterior horns <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 00:32, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Was the hump used to store fat like a camel, or to provide muscle power to the horn?
 * Why did you remove the explanation for storing fat? Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 05:56, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * It's still there "The hump also contained a fat reserve to aid survival through the desolate winters of the mammoth steppe" <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 06:08, 4 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Do you have a dental formula? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 00:32, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Any reason its teeth would have to be more powerful than modern rhinos? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 00:32, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Removed it. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 20:15, 22 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Use when using units so they can be displayed in metric and imperial units, like 24 cm <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;">  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 00:32, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Done. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 20:15, 22 December 2019 (UTC)


 * "with an estimated weight of around 1,800–2,700 kg (4,000–6,000 lb)[6] or 2,000 kg (4,400 lb)" so is 2,000 kg the point estimate or are there competing values or is that average size and 1,800–2,700 are extrema? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 02:58, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * "An adult woolly rhinoceros was typically around 3 to 3.8 metres" contradicts "The woolly rhinoceros could grow to be 2 m" <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 02:58, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Specified length vs height. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 20:15, 22 December 2019 (UTC)


 * How big was the second horn? 61 cm seems really specific. Are you referencing a specific specimen? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 02:58, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Removed it. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 20:15, 22 December 2019 (UTC)


 * You may wanna revisit how you've organized all the information. It doesn't flow very well and there's a lot of repetition and wordiness <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 02:58, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Done. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 20:15, 22 December 2019 (UTC)


 * You wikilinked "cave painting" on second mention <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 02:58, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Fixed it. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 20:15, 22 December 2019 (UTC)


 * You should definitely merge Description and Fossil specimens <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 02:58, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I undid this because it discusses the history of fossil findings, which doesn't add much to the description. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 00:24, 7 December 2019 (UTC)


 * "to survive in the desolate mammoth steppe" did you mean "desolate winters"? The mammoth steppe is known for having been a thriving ecosystem <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 02:58, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Done. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 20:15, 22 December 2019 (UTC)


 * You use a lot of big words unnecessarily like "extant" instead of "living" or "modern day"; "deciduous teeth" instead of "baby teeth" or "milk teeth"; "dental arch" instead of just not putting it in there at all; and "inginual region" instead of "groin". Also, are you sure it had nipples in the groin? It's not sourced either <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 02:58, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Rewritten. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 20:15, 22 December 2019 (UTC)


 * "The skull measured between 70 to 90 centimetres (28 to 35 in) and was very elongated" did you mean "elongated for a rhino"? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 02:58, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Specified. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 20:15, 22 December 2019 (UTC)


 * "Characteristic was the strikingly pulled out rear" What? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 02:58, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Removed it. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 20:15, 22 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Instead of giving an actual dental formula, just say "it had 3 premolars and 3 molars in both jaws" and leave it there <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 02:58, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Done. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 20:15, 22 December 2019 (UTC)


 * "The teeth of the woolly rhinoceros had thickened enamel and an open internal cavity" it had hollow teeth? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 02:58, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Does something need to be specified? Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 20:15, 22 December 2019 (UTC)


 * "Unique to the woolly rhinoceros was the adhesion of the forward rounded nasal bone with the premaxilla" I'm pretty sure all rhinos have round noses so you don't need that part, so you can say it as "Unique to this rhino, the nasal bones were fused to the premaxillae" <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 02:58, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Done. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 20:15, 22 December 2019 (UTC)


 * What are prebeam teeth? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 02:58, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Rewrote it. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 20:15, 22 December 2019 (UTC)


 * "contained a heavy amount of cement" did you mean "had a thick coat of cementum"? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 02:58, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Rewrote it. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 20:15, 22 December 2019 (UTC)


 * "Like all rhinoceroses, it used its horns for defensive purposes and to attract mates" this sounds too definitive for an inference <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 02:58, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * What about it? Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 17:00, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * We don't know they used their horns for defense and to attract mates, we assume <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 17:13, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Rewrote it. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 20:15, 22 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Horns section is incredibly wordy <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 02:58, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Better now? Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 05:56, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * No. You can condense the entire first paragraph into 1 or 2 or 3 sentences with a lot less words. "The front horn reached a considerable size. Its length reached a meter or more" these 2 statements are redundant. Why do you mention the Kolyma specimen? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 17:18, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Done. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 20:15, 22 December 2019 (UTC)


 * "The back horn was shorter, no more than half a meter (1.64 ft), at about 15 centimetres (5.9 in) long" is this the absolute biggest and smallest lengths or the absolute biggest recorded and the average size? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 17:08, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Haven't addressed it. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 04:25, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
 * You better address it then <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 21:03, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Removed specifics. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 21:18, 29 December 2019 (UTC)


 * "The rhino's long fur coat was reddish-brown and sometimes had a yellowish tint" how do we know this with such certainty? Are we using cave paintings or mummies? The same goes for everything else in that paragraph <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 21:03, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Specified that. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 16:35, 23 December 2019 (UTC)


 * "Their thick undercoat lay under" why present tense? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 21:03, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * That sounds like past tense to me, but I changed it. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 16:35, 23 December 2019 (UTC)


 * "Their thick undercoat lay under" the plural of rhinoceros is rhinoceroses <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 21:03, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * If this is about reference 24? If so, that's part of the title. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 16:35, 23 December 2019 (UTC)


 * "measured up to 60 centimetres (24 in) long and to 10 centimetres" you don't use the bolded "to" <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 21:03, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Removed it. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 16:35, 23 December 2019 (UTC)


 * "This adaptation evolved as a result of the heavy pressure on the horn and face when the rhinoceros grazed underneath the thick snow" we don't know that for certain <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 21:03, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Added "probably". Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 16:35, 23 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Why did it have hollow teeth? Are you sure it's not just the pulp cavity? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 21:03, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * "It had no incisors, which in rhinoceroses are usually only in the milk teeth and rudimentarily formed" or you could say "Like other rhinos, adults did not have incisors" <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 21:03, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Done.


 * "The second premolar was shaped in an especially gracile manner" I feel like the source just said this more or less verbatim and you more or less copy/pasted it in. If you don't understand something, then odds are the general reader won't understand, so what you need to do is understand it, and rewrite so it's easier to understand <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 21:03, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Removed it. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 16:35, 23 December 2019 (UTC)


 * "The preserved wear indicates that they were used for combat, probably including intraspecific combat as recorded in cave paintings, as well as for moving snow to uncover vegetation during winter" The preserved wear cannot tell you what they were used for, it can only tell you that they were used for something. So, you can say "Woolly rhinos may have used their horns for..." but can't say this. Also this info belongs in Paleobiology <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 21:03, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Done.


 * "One early discovery came in 1771 in the Vilyuy River" By "early discovery" did you mean "the first discovery"? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 21:03, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Removed "early discovery". Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 16:35, 23 December 2019 (UTC)


 * "This discovery made a significant contribution to the knowledge of the woolly rhinoceros" we don't need this sentence <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 21:03, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Removed sentence. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 16:35, 23 December 2019 (UTC)


 * "One had its entire body preserved aside from horns and fur" Did the other mummies only preserve the foot or something? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 21:03, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Changed wording. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 16:35, 23 December 2019 (UTC)


 * In the Diet section you should include what the mummy's stomach contents were <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 21:03, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Instead of "caudal vertebrae", say "tail vertebrae" <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 21:03, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Done. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 16:35, 23 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Who are Alexander “Sasha” Banderov and Simeon Ivanov? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 21:03, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Specified. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 16:35, 23 December 2019 (UTC)


 * "scientists hope to obtain usable DNA" and do what with it? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 21:03, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Rewritten. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 16:35, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

Distribution

 * Just glancing over it it seems unduly wordy <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 17:12, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
 * What specifically? Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 00:24, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
 * What exactly is the point of the 2nd paragraph? Why do you zero in on the English Channel specifically? Why do you mention the mammoth and Elasmotherium here? The 3rd paragraph could easily be condensed <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 01:23, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Rewrote it. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 20:15, 22 December 2019 (UTC)


 * "a 3.6-million-year-old woolly rhinoceros fossil" contradicts "It evolved at the end of the Early Pleistocene nearly 300 kya" <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 01:21, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Replaced latter statement. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 20:15, 22 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Typically in articles about extinct creatures, there's a section entitled "Paleobiology" which talks about the animals' behavior and diet and predators, and "Paleoecology" which talks about the environment the animal lived in and other animals it lived with <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 01:21, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Added both. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 20:15, 22 December 2019 (UTC)


 * "widest range of all rhinoceros species" → "widest range of any rhinoceros species" <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 21:03, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Done. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 16:36, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

Taxonomy

 * Instead of "and were often interpreted as the remains of species from folklore", maybe "and were the basis for some mythical creatures."
 * Done. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 20:15, 22 December 2019 (UTC)


 * "it was placed in storage in the town hall" why is this relevant? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 23:29, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Removed it. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 20:15, 22 December 2019 (UTC)


 * "Scientific studies on the woolly rhinoceros began in the late 18th century" contradicts "in 1663 near Quedlinburg, it was studied by scientist Otto von Guericke". Also, is this talking about Unicorn Cave? I haven't researched it but I found this image on Commons which says he made a hoax using the remains of the rhinoceros, a mammoth, and a narwhal <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;">  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 02:46, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Removed inconsistency, but not sure about the statement itself regarding it being a hoax. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 20:15, 22 December 2019 (UTC)


 * I'm sure you can find and cite Guericke's report rather than citing Scientific American blog network <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 23:29, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
 * @Dunkleosteus77 Can't find it anywhere. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 00:46, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
 * That's probably because you're talking about Unicorn Cave and looking for a newspaper article from the 17th century. Use a different source than a blog <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 21:03, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Removed the claim altogether. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 21:18, 29 December 2019 (UTC)


 * "Some scientists maintained the belief that the horns were the claws of giant birds, and were even classified under the name Gryphus antiquitatis" why do you say "Some scientists" when you're only citing Waldheim? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 23:29, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Rewrote it. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 20:15, 22 December 2019 (UTC)


 * "The specific name antiquitatis, from latin antiquus ("old") was given in the 1930s" contradicts "(Blumenbach, 1807)", and it seems antiquitatis was given when it was described as a griffin <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 23:29, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Rewrote it. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 20:15, 22 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Second paragraph doesn't end with a reference <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 02:50, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Added one. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 20:15, 22 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Why did Bronn move it out of Rhinoceros? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 02:50, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Haven't found the reason, so just said it was renamed. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 20:15, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * You should cite Bronn, and Bronn will most likely give a justification <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 20:25, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Added. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 06:09, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

Paleobiology

 * "Like its modern relatives, bull woolly rhinos were territorial and defended themselves from competitors, particularly during the rutting season" you don't know that for certain <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 21:03, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Rewritten. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 06:09, 23 December 2019 (UTC)


 * "which easily allowed it to pluck vegetation" → "which allowed it to easily pluck vegetation
 * Done. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 06:09, 23 December 2019 (UTC)


 * First paragraph of Habitat doesn't end with a ref <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 21:03, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Combined the two paragraphs. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 16:38, 23 December 2019 (UTC)


 * "It avoided mountain ranges, due to heavy snow and steep terrain that the animal could not easily cross" you don't know that's the reason <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 16:33, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Removed it for now. Thylacinus cynocephalus (talk) 16:38, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
 * The source says, "they must have been stopped by the numerous glaciated mountain ridges of Alaska". WolfmanSF (talk) 21:44, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Final remarks

 * This review is on its away to reaching the 2nd month mark, and we've made very little headway. The article is still not very up to GA standards. Even with all the small grammar and style comments above, this article doesn't cover all relevant aspects of the woolly rhino. You should definitely include more sources and use only academic journal and book sources, and while you're expanding, make sure to avoid page filler and unnecessary wording and padding. Good luck <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 02:15, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
 * GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)


 * 1) It is reasonably well written.
 * a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
 * 1) It is factually accurate and verifiable.
 * a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources):  c (OR):  d (copyvio and plagiarism):
 * 1) It is broad in its coverage.
 * a (major aspects): b (focused):
 * 1) It follows the neutral point of view policy.
 * Fair representation without bias:
 * 1) It is stable.
 * No edit wars, etc.:
 * 1) It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
 * a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/Fail:
 * 1) It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
 * a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
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