Talk:World AIDS Day

Theme
the theme for world AIDs day is shown here as 54321. a quick check here indicates it is the same as 2003, Stigma & discrimination. lets not be silly people. that same page also appears to show there is some complications with the AIDs day theme, at least in 2005. unless i get beaten too it i will fix when i am more sober. - fruitybix 1/12/05 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fruity bix (talk • contribs) 04:35, 1 December 2005

Red Ribbon
Why is the Red Ribbon a redirection to a Dragonballs article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.196.211.8 (talk) 14:15, 1 December 2005
 * It's been fixed. 207.237.61.26 (talk) 05:46, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Condom on the Obelisk of Buenos Aires
Last year the government of Buenos Aires placed a giant "condom" on the Obelisco, for awareness, on AIDS Day. I've added the picture to Condom, since it's not simply a weird sight but an example of the cultural impact of the device; I'm not sure if it's appropriate here, so I'm asking for your opinions. —Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 03:08, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Great picture, and definitely relevant. I added it. SomethingFamiliar 21:20, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Origin of World AIDS Day
While World AIDS Day became a UN sponsored event in 1988, it was actually started in 1986 by Metropolitan Community Church's Rev. David Farrell as a colaborative initiative between MCC and other faith communities. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.220.67.218 (talk) 12:23, 17 June 2006


 * reference?207.237.61.26 (talk) 21:23, 1 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I think this claim is iffy: The only sources I can find on Google which verify this claim all come from the same article on the main MCC Web site (which is maintained by Rev. Farrell, who claims to have created World AIDS Day -- not an unbiased source). Many churches and other groups were holding AIDS vigils and events prior to 1986, and it is not clear even from the MCC Web site that today's WAC-sponsored World AIDS Day had its origins in the MCC's actions, nor that Dr. Jonathan Mann got the idea for a World AIDS Day from the MCC's actions, nor even that the MCC called its actions "World AIDS Day." Meanwhile, there are many, many sources which cite Dr. Mann and the 1988 meeting of health ministers and subsequent WHO action. - Tim1965 (talk) 00:00, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

actually the U.N world aids day was declared in response to thousands of churches who had joined with MCC's Days of rememberance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Psstache (talk • contribs) 17:43, December 1, 2008


 * That would be terrific, if we had more to go on than Dr. Perry's word and your word. - Tim1965 (talk) 00:47, 2 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I've just spoken with Jim Birkitt, Director of Communications for MCC, and he is going to provide the references and sources needed for at least some note about their involvement. He was surprised that there was not more about the MMC's participation in WAD's origins online.  I am trusting that a copy of a press release or newspaper article that was written prior to 1988 documenting their initial idea and implementation of a World AIDS Day will do for at least some mention.  He may also have some contacts at the UN and WHO who may be able to back up MMC's ascertation on their official WAD website. 207.237.61.26 (talk) 05:45, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Also note: while I agree that MMC would not be wholy unbiased without a reliable, factual piece of proof as required by WikiStandards, let's not eliminate the POV that all of the references citing WHO and UN as the founder of WAD originally source from WHO and UN themselves...and they have much greater PR and advertising resources. Let's all try to write a balanced and fair article with reliable resources.  207.237.61.26 (talk) 05:45, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

I'm reading that

http://www.hivedmonton.com/events/world-aids-day-aids-awareness-week

All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 18:08, 29 September 2016 (UTC).

Reason for 1 December
I've removed the remark that this commemorates the "first diagnosis" in 1981. That statement had no reference, and I've been unable to find anything important on 1 Dec 1981. The syndrome was identified by at least 5 June, 1981 by CDC. Was it officially declared a new disease on 1 Dec, perhaps?--LachlanA 01:54, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Removal of copyrighted material
The following material had been added on 1 December 2008 to the History section:
 * In 1985, frustrated with a lack of broad community response in San Diego to the AIDS pandemic, Rev. David Farrell (then senior pastor of MCC San Diego, CA and today MCC Web Manager) set aside a weekend to focus attention on the AIDS crisis. Under Rev. Farrell's leadership, the San Diego MCC congregation sponsored a 50-hour prayer vigil, conducted workshops, and invited participation by a broad spectrum of faith communities, social workers, medical specialists, funding organizations and community groups. The event was so successful that the following year -- in 1986 -- Metropolitan Community Churches asked Rev. Farrell to lead an international campaign to help other MCC churches sponsor AIDS Day weekend observances. Organizational kits were prepared and posters were printed and in 1986, MCC churches around the world hosted World AIDS Day events, services, workshops, and vigils. These simple but powerful observances struck a responsive cord in communities around the world. When the results were in, more than 5000 churches and temples from a broad spectrum of faith communities had joined hands with 300 MCC congregations to sponsor World AIDS Day events in 1986.

Unfortunately, this material was copied (much of it word-for-word) from the Metropolitan Community Church Web site. Wikipedia's copyright rules note: "If some, but not all, of the content of a page appears to be a copyright infringement, then the infringing content should be removed, and a note to that effect should be made on the discussion page, along with the original source, if known. If the copyright holder's permission is later obtained, the text may be restored." This has been done. - Tim1965 (talk) 23:56, 1 December 2008 (UTC)


 * actually the part I posted was taken from an open letter from the founder of MCC and is not copyrighted and is free for distribution I would encourage it be placed back on the page Thank you rev. Joseph P. Shore Goss Clergy in residence MCC N. Hollywood


 * Unfortunately, the page in question does not say the material is in the public domain. When it comes to the law and Wikipedia's guidelines, one's word (sadly) is not enough. - Tim1965 (talk) 00:46, 2 December 2008 (UTC)


 * nor is ones opinion I placed my copy of the letter word for word with reference as is asked now put it back! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Psstache (talk • contribs) 17:51, December 1, 2008


 * I'm sorry but even though you have a printed copy of a document doesn't mean you can reproduced large portions of the text verbatim online, whether it is a letter, a book, or material from a church's website. Demanding that people stop removing text you feel you have the rights to doesn't make it legal for us to do so. Now back to the I've tried to find alternate sources for where the idea for World AIDS day came from prior to the UN declaration in 1988. Do you have any sources other than the church's website which state that they were a major force behind world AIDS day? -Optigan13 (talk) 04:17, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps this will assist. As noted in the discussion above:


 * I've just spoken with Jim Birkitt, Director of Communications for MCC, and he is going to provide the references and sources needed for at least some note about their involvement. He was surprised that there was not more about the MMC's participation in WAD's origins online.  I am trusting that a copy of a press release or newspaper article that was written prior to 1988 documenting their initial idea and implementation of a World AIDS Day will do for at least some mention.  He may also have some contacts at the UN and WHO who may be able to back up MMC's ascertation on their official WAD website. 207.237.61.26 (talk) 00:29, 3 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Also note: while I agree that MMC would not be wholy unbiased without a reliable, factual piece of proof as required by WikiStandards, let's not eliminate the POV that all of the references citing WHO and UN as the founder of WAD originally source from WHO and UN themselves...and they have much greater PR and advertising resources. Let's all try to write a balanced and fair article with reliable resources.  207.237.61.26 (talk) 00:29, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

what day is world aids day?
the article only states that it started on december 1, but worldaidsday.org states that it is on the 12th, at least in the uk this year. its been december 1 since i remember, and the vandals seem to agree. does the uk have a different world aids day than the rest of the world?  never mind. i shouldnt edit at this hour of the morning. badmachine (talk) 08:14, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Article Protection
There is a history of excessive vandalism for the past two years, only to have the article be Protected after being vandalized. The vandalism usually begins mid November.

I'm still kind of a noob here about some things, and have reached out to some editors who have protected the page in the past... But perhaps we could pro-actively Protect or Semi-Protect the page now through Dec 2? Please advise. 38.109.88.194 (talk) 07:35, 17 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Definitely gotta use some sort of protection. Also, be sure to get tested before you start editing. Be safe! Grundle2600 (talk) 03:51, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

refimprove? really?
22 external links and 18 in-line references, I think the refimprove banner is highly unnecessary. Any comments? 38.109.88.194 (talk) 23:33, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, it's been a week without comment. I'm removing it.  38.109.88.194 (talk) 02:03, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

COI Disclaimer
I just added a link to publicly available digitized posters advertising World AIDS Day from the UCLA Library's Digital Collections. It's a valuable demonstration of the ways in which World AIDS Day has been represented visually around the world, but I'm mentioning it here because I'm a librarian at UCLA. I want to make sure that it's generally agreed by page editors that this doesn't represent a conflict of interest, and is an appropriate External Link for this page. MetaClaudia (talk) 18:37, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

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AIDS Awareness Month
I removed this section as it did not cite any sources. I tried to add them on my own but I got conflicting info. For example, in the US it appears to be both October and December and I didn't see any search results for other countries. It would be good if someone can unravel this puzzle. Thanks. — howcheng  {chat} 17:26, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

Wikimedia Cloud page for this year's observance
I wanted to share our current events page collaboration on Wikispore, a part of Wikimedia Cloud Services, covering World AIDS Day events globally this year. We could include this for the current year, and update it annually, because this is more detail than would go in the perennial Wikipedia article.--Pharos (talk) 05:07, 4 December 2019 (UTC)