Talk:World Figure Skating Championships

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Someone has a factual error listed at one of the World Championships: the 1996 one in Canada. They have that Ilia Kulik won the Men's Singles Gold there, and Todd Eldredge won the Silver, that is totally wrong (the true order was reversed, and this does not jive with many resources both on the internet and with Mr. Eldredge and Mr. Kulik's biography on Wikipedia). And I can prove it, via, the ISU (International Skating Union's) website. If this persist, after I change and correct again, I will deliberately have Wikipedia reported both to the ISU and the United States Figure Skating Association (USFSA) and I will ask them to see what their lawyers can do to make whoever is switching the order in those Championships for the Gold and the Silver pay for it. -- cnbpjb, 12:14, 25 February 2006

Why Icedancing is missing in this list? Is there a special list? Uwe

It's not that Uwe, it's "who's going to do all that typing?" :) --Pelladon 03:39, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

The typing was not that bad. It was anyway mostly copy and paste. However now the bios can follow. Uwe
 * You the man! --Pelladon 17:55, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

Page is too big
Any suggestions on how to break it down? Possibly a separate page for each event? --Pelladon 03:22, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

Any need for logos?
I happen to work for the company that created the logo for the 2003 event in Washington. Is there any need for the logo in this article? EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 17:10, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Ice Dance
How can the Ice Dance table of medallists be edited? Is the source on another page? I just want to say that 1992 the medallists competed for CIS. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Stavol2 (talk • contribs) 08:23, 2 April 2007 (UTC).


 * You can edit it by editing the template directly. Kolindigo 15:08, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Multiple spots for 2008 Worlds
I have doubts that this table is correct. Kevin van der Perrin (Belgium) did not participate in the Worlds 2007, how shall Belgium than have multiple spots for the 2008 worlds. Can anybody answer that? Uwe Langer 20:04, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Found it. It was not Belgium it was Belarus earning two spots in the mens for 2008. Corrected it. Uwe Langer 20:11, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Italy DOES NOT have 3 spots to World's in 2009 because they sent 2 skaters whose total exceeds 13. If Carolina Kostner were the only lady representing Italy this year, then yes, they would have 3 spots. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.39.255.217 (talk) 08:49, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

France should have only 2 spots to the 2009 Worlds in Men's since they finished 2nd and 18th (source: ISU.org)

Canada should have only 2 sports to the 2009 Worlds in Ice Dancing since the top 2 finishers were 2nd and 17th (source ISU.org). There's an icenetwork.com interview with Virtue/Moir that quotes this fact as well.

History
I restored changes undone by Kolindigo. The brief History is directly contradicted by James Hines, 2006, Figure Skating: A history, the only authoritative and comprehensive history of figure skating since 1959. My edits correct the errors based on Hines history. I included the only footnote on the textual content of this page. When Kolindigo undid my correction, he kept one piece from my update, the location of the first Ladies Championship, Davos. He also retained my footnote in a position that made it appear to apply to the old and contradictory material. I had deliberately created two paragraphs so there was no ambiguity, and it was clear that the footnote did not apply to the original first half which I left intact. I will be glad to stand down if Kolindigo can provide a better authoritative source for his version of Madge Sayers participation and the origin of the Ladies Championship. GeorgeDS (talk) 07:05, 19 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Hey. Per my edit summary, I take issue with the idea that all of this happened in the 21st century. Please check the dates you used. And thanks for the book rec, I'll pick it up from the library ASAP. :) Kolindigo (talk) 07:11, 19 December 2007 (UTC)


 * You are quite right. I'm so used to typing 20.. that I got all the dates wrong. I've moved them to 1903 to 1906. Are we OK now :) BTW I'm new to this and have looked all over for the edit summary which I cannot find. GeorgeDS (talk) 07:30, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

I found the "edit summary" and put a note in this time. I'm getting extremely frustrated with this. I provided the only reference/source and now people who haven't checked the entire edit history are removing my update and saying it's unsourced. If people keep removing my correction but leaving the James Hines reference, I will contact James Hines so he can take legal action for using his work as reference for material that directly contradicts him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Georgeds (talk • contribs) 08:00, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Post-World War I resumption
One question I have not found out searching Google is why the World Figure Skating Championships were not re-established until three years after World War I had ended?? I can understand why it would have been too late to organise a 1919 World Figure Skating Championship since the war did not end until November of 1918, but one would guess that 1920 Championships could certainly have been organised during 1919. Even with conflict with the 1920 Olympics, one would imagine a 1921 Championship could certainly have been organised duirng that time, but that was not done for some reason. Could anyone here provide details and information?? luokehao, 08:59, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

History - Gold
I find the statement "Many, including World Champion Ulrich Salchow, believed she should have won the gold." highly questionable. There is no reference to anything like this in James Hines' history. Salchow was the reigning champion (from 1901), arguably the greatest skater of his time, invented an important jump that is still used in its original form today, and was one of the original 20 inductees into the World Figure Skating Hall of Fame. Women were then so little regarded as athletes that no one thought to make a rule against their participation. If Salchow had said anything like this, it would have been so newsworthy that it would have been included in every contemporary newspaper, magazine, and book covering the 1902 events. If true, it should be very easy to document.

The statement makes a colorful story, but that does not make it true. It is much easier to write untrue and undocumented history than to write accurate and researched history. I have now challenged this statement. As I understand Wikipedia's verifiability standard, the original author (or someone else) must provide a "reliable, published source" or this statement should be removed. GeorgeDS (talk) 19:27, 19 December 2007 (UTC)


 * More than a month has passed and no one has provided any support for the statement I challenged. I am removing the statement. As for the other part of the the statement, "Many," absent exit polling which was not developed for about 70 years, no one could know what the audience thought. 100 in 5000 spectators would have been "many," but quite meaningless.GeorgeDS (talk) 06:25, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

16 yr old Scotch
Is there, or has there ever been, a minimum age to compete? It appears, based on the deaths of the '61 U.S. team, to be 17. TREKphiler  hit me ♠  14:09, 22 November 2009 (UTC)


 * There is currently a minimum age (15 years old by the preceeding July 1). There have been various age limits; I don't know when the first one was introduced. It wasn't 17 in 1961; Elena Vodorezova was 12 in 1976 and I'm pretty sure there weren't any age limits then. Tara Lipinski was 13 in 1996 and was then grandfathered in when new age limits were imposed. Kolindigo (talk) 18:46, 22 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Quick answer! Thanks a lot. BTW, tho, I imagine others have wondered, so a firm(er) answer, included in the page, would probably be a good idea.  TREKphiler   any time you're ready, Uhura  19:10, 22 November 2009 (UTC)


 * There is currently this:
 * Skaters must be older than fifteen as of July 1st the previous year to compete. The World Junior Figure Skating Championships is the corresponding competition for skaters at age 13 to 19 who are not old enough for senior Worlds or do not qualify. In previous years there was a loophole that skaters who were not age-eligible for senior Worlds but had medalled at Junior Worlds could compete at senior Worlds, but this loophole has since been closed.
 * I can hunt up sources for previous age limits, though it may take a while (perhaps someone else reading this page has some on hand?). Kolindigo (talk) 19:24, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

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Pairs and IceDancing medalists
Were there any pairs who medaled in pairs and ice dancing? Or maybe just individual skater who medaled in both with different partners? Note or list (if there are more) would fit the article. 213.149.62.160 (talk) 16:31, 30 September 2017 (UTC)

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Changing from "Ladies'" to "Women's"
Hey there! Previously, the discipline was known as "ladies' singles" but with ISU regulations and communications changing it into "women's singles" starting from the 2021-22 season, I want to know how the discipline should be referred to on this particular page.

As of now, the page on Figure skating still refers it as "ladies' singles" (will be changing that soon) but the Single skating pages uses "women's singles" and for those 2 pages it should be clear that they should refer to the discipline as "women's single" since it covers figure skating as a whole. However, since pages like this one discuss about specific time period (before the terminology change), I just want to make sure if replacing all of "ladies'" into "women's" would be appropriate or not.

Thank you!

Suuuuuuzu 11:53, 1 December 2021 (UTC)