Talk:World War II casualties/Archives/2016/February

Semi-protected edit request on 4 February 2016

 * align=left|🇫🇮 Finland || 3,700,000 || 95,000 || 2,000 || ||97,000 ||   2.30

84.208.82.193 (talk) 10:29, 4 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Done here- --Woogie10w (talk) 11:55, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 February 2016
Remove comments "Included with the Soviet and German Armies" from Lithuania and Latvia in "total death" table. That information not in source (e-source you can download from link http://eknigi.org/istorija/122302-poteri-narodonaseleniya-v-xx-veke.html). This comments suggests the wrong idea that the civilian death from Russian army comparable to the civilian death from Germany. Require special confirmation that the loss is comparable.

quote from source: Литва потери мирного населения8                                                    345,0 погибло от военных действий                                              25,0 казнено и убито                                                                    230,0 заключено в тюрьмы и лагеря                                            110,0 угнано на работу в Германию                                              70,0 из них погибло                                                                    15,0 умерло от голода и болезней                                               75,0 эмиграция9                                                                             50,0

Hance (talk) 11:19, 6 February 2016 (UTC)


 * The article is correct, no change is necessary. The comments "Included with the Soviet and German Armies" from Lithuania and Latvia are in the source. The table in the article breaks out civilian and military dead. On page 29 the Erlikman breaks out civilian and military deaths, in footnote 5 he notes that the military dead are included in the  Soviet and German Armies. I have a hard copy of the source Vadim Erlikman. Poteri narodonaseleniia v XX veke. If there is a dispute I will provide a jpg of the page in the  Poteri narodonaseleniia for support.--Woogie10w (talk) 12:27, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Yes, i would like to see your scancopy, please. That i see in e-copy on page 29: http://fotkidepo.ru/photo/22915/2518KLwI0AG4Uu/1120389w.png footnote 5: Немцы добровольно выехали из Прибалтики и Украины в Германию. См. 19, с. 166. Hance (talk) 15:13, 6 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Footnote 5 does not deal with military casualties- The Russian reads Germans of free will deported from Baltic and Ukraine, Source 19 is Historical Atlas of East Central Europe. --Woogie10w (talk) 15:22, 6 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Hance send me an email at berndd11222@gmail.com and I will send jpg of the pages 28/29. --Woogie10w (talk) 15:27, 6 February 2016 (UTC)


 * On page 28 Latvia look see footnotes 6 &7 on Page 29 Lithuania see footnotes 5&6.--Woogie10w (talk) 15:30, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Closing this based on the comments by . --allthefoxes (Talk)  16:37, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

WW2 Casualties Chart
Hello, since I do not know whether User:TheShadowed is still around (the last messages on his talk page date back to 2008), I would like to make you aware that this chart of his: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/World_War_II_Casualties.svg/2000px-World_War_II_Casualties.svg.png, which is linked on a lot of wiki pages of all languages, is grossly inaccurate regarding Italy: as one can see on World War II casualties, Italian casualties were 319,000 military and 153,000 civilians, overall 472,000, that is slightly less than Romania which lost 500,000 military and civilians. But in the chart, it appears as if Italian overall casualties were just slightly more than half of the Romanian casualties; it seems this comes from underestimate of Italian civilian casualties. By the way, I noticed that in the chart Hungarian overall casualties look smaller than Romanian, while in reality they were greater (Hungary, 564,000; Romania, 500,000).--188.152.113.51 (talk) 15:41, 13 February 2016 (UTC)


 * I moved the above comments from my talk page since I do not have a clue about the charts. I guy from Denmark did them 10 years ago.--Woogie10w (talk) 17:36, 13 February 2016 (UTC)