Talk:Wrangell, Alaska

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Cathrine Ann Strandberg lives there now with her boyfriend named Brad Williams. They came from Kalispell, Montana, and left her daughter with her father. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.206.229.242 (talk) 17:25, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Forts San Dionysius/Stikine/Wrangell
I've been pending for a while on making a Fort Stikine article, which from what I know about it can incorporate the Russian facility as they were teh same building, and same era/purpose. Fort Wrangell was a military outpost which, though on the same spot, was from a different era and a different undertaking; primarily military as opposed to fur trade, though both Russian and British facilities were necessarily garrisoned due to the ongoing state of generalized warfare in the region (the marine fur trade was often as much a war as it was business....). Just wanted feedback from Wrangellites (Wrangellians?) - will two articles Fort Stikine and Fort Wrangell work, or will they just wind up being merged? Fort Wrangell currently redirects here, and maybe should continue to, unless there's enough about it to warrant its own article;in Fort Stikine's case there is.....Skookum1 (talk) 15:26, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Statistical silliness
I know this is a standard way that US and Canadian demograhpic breakdowns are presented, but for small-population places it just seems asinine:
 * '' of 2000, there were 2,308 people, 907 households, and 623 families residing in the city. The population density was 51.0 people per square mile (19.7/km²). There were 1,092 housing units at an average density of 24.1/sq mi (9.3/km²). The racial makeup of the city was 73.48% White, 0.13% Black or African American, 15.51% Native American, 0.65% Asian, 0.13% Pacific Islander, 0.35% from other races, and 9.75% from two or more races. 1.00% of the population were Hispanic or Latino of any race.

The reason is seems asinine, is that 0.13% Black or 0.13% Pacific Islander is a pretty specific small number, as in a whole three people each. Referring to people in statistical terms for such small places comes off very odd when you stop to look at the actual figures - people are idnividuals, not percentages; I'm not meaning to pick on teh Wrangell article but it's a problem across the board with demographic data for small places; even worse for places with only 100 or 200 inhabitants. "15.51% Native American" has a lot more relevance if it said "300 Tlingit people" (or whatever the precise no. is, I didn't do the calculation). if they're all Tlingit, that is, and not from elsewhere (as some might be).Skookum1 (talk) 19:05, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I think in cases like this it would be perfectly accesptable to change the percent to an actual number. Hmmm, I think I'll do it... Proxy User (talk) 16:26, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Size of Borough
Apparently, the geographical size of the new borough is larger than I had thought, according to maps that I have seen. I recently plugged in values for the area and population of the City of Wrangell as it stood during the census of 2000. These numbers are far too small to encompass the area shown on maps, which show the new borough to comprise over 40 percent of the former Wrangell-Petersburg Census Area. This may coincide with Census Tract 3, but I do not have any proof; it only appears to be very close from looking at maps. If this is indeed the case, then Wrangell Borough would be some 43.425% of Wrangell-Petersburg's land area, and its population would be 2,424 as of 2000. These numbers are verifiable only if we assume correctly that Census Tract 3 coincides with Wrangell Borough. Backspace (talk) 08:52, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Russian Redoubt and Shakes clan house
Anyone know a source for the info in this article:


 * ..clan house of Chief Shakes called Shéiksh Hídi. This house was located about 13 miles (21 km) north of Old Wrangell, on a small island in the middle of what is today Wrangell Harbor. The stockade, named Redoubt Saint Dionysius (Редутъ Санктъ Дионѵсіусъ), was founded at the location of present-day Wrangell and stood near the end of the small peninsula that forms the northeastern side of the mouth of the harbor.

I've been trying to figure out where the Russian redoubt was exactly. It makes sense that it was in Wrangell Harbor, but I can't find a source with the kind of precise info above. Also, the peninsula was on the northeast side of the harbor? So it wasn't Point Shekesti? Maps show the northeast side all developed into port facilities, so it is hard to tell whether there was a peninsula, and quite where (see, for example, this NOAA nautical chart). Anyone have a source for the above quote? Thanks. Pfly (talk) 17:38, 7 May 2010 (UTC)