Talk:Wrath (Lamb of God album)

Album Titles
i was at their concert in richmond last night where they leaked some of the tracks off this new album i didn't catch most of the titles but i did catch one title called "fake messiah" which should be added to the list of expected tracks, i would have done it myself but wiki never lets you edit something on your own you have to discuss it first or something, any way some one go ahead and add that.


 * I second that motion ^ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.238.146.218 (talk) 20:15, 27 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I wont remove the titles, but we need some refrences to prove it. Mabye a video of the concert on YouTube would work? Disturbedfan30 (talk) 01:58, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

So I take it that's what "confirmed live" means? could we possibly state in the article that they have actually played these songs in the body of the article? Most other upcommong album articles have a bit about songs performed live, if there isa pre-album tourXanthic-Ztk (talk) 00:03, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

I added the two bonus tracks to the list, they are pretty well confirmed I think, just google Lamb Of God Wrath bonus tracks and they show up =) - At0m1Ca15 82.69.54.176 (talk) 12:32, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

It was leaked. Search for In Your Words on youtube, the full song will come up. there's a link in the description of that video —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.69.54.176 (talk) 20:35, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Proposed Deletion
I dont think the article should be deleted. It has sources for the material and the album is due is less than three months, most other album pages already had pages for them then by that time. Disturbedfan30 (talk) 21:51, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Genre
The genre for the album currently is set as Metalcore, and should be changed to Thrash Metal. Mark Morton (Guitarist of Lamb of God) stated in an interview that the only word that comes to mind when he thinks of Wrath is Thrash Metal.

"Sonically, we go to a lot of interesting places on this record, but the word that keeps coming to my mind is ‘thrash’” and “this time there’s a real big Bay Area thrash influence that’s pretty undeniable to me”

Agreed. I've never heard anything that comes close to resembling groove metal in any of LoG's music any way. It sounds all thrash to me. --DJM

I would agree with Mark, from what i've heard, the new album is pretty thrashy (and there's some blast beats by chris). I'm lookin' forward to Feb. 24 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.79.189.142 (talk) 01:08, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

To clarify something: editor opinion itself doesn't determine genre. I don't mean this at all in a hostile way, I promise you, but what you or I or anyone else thinks it sounds like is meaningless as far as wikipedia is concerned. It only cares about the sources. Now, so far we have 5 reviews for it. Let's take a look at what they say that could be seen as a genre classification: So, all told we do have a few bits and bobs for "thrash metal" (and in truth not much more than we have for doom or sludge), but none of it is at all conclusive. Given that the album hasn't even officially been released yet, I recommend that for now we keep the genre simply as "heavy metal". More reviews will appear soon enough which will give us definite genres. Prophaniti (talk) 17:25, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Spin mentions them as "punk-metal", but we don't actually have a genre for that. It also mentions thrash. However, the actual reliability of the site review is questionable: it appears users can rate the album, and the link to the writer doesn't seem to actually go anywhere. So whether this should be used at all is debatable.
 * Kerrang! does mention "thrash metal" being in there, but it also mentions "doom-laden" as well.
 * Thrash Hits doesn't mention anything other than "metal", although it does make a minor reference to it being "sludgy".
 * Metal Invader says, "This is thrashcore". Wikipedia actually has an article on this, and it's not the same as thrash metal. Of course, in this case they most likely mean it in this sense, but that would be interpreting a source.
 * Metal Hammer we can't access.

While this album does show a thrash influence (influence is the key word), this is strictly groove metal. Wrath owes a lot more to bands like Pantera or Machine Head than Megadeth/Metallica/Slayer/etc. Groove metal has always been the core of Lamb of God's sound. Speaking of core, I don't hear any of it in Wrath. No metalcore, thrashcore, call it what you will. This is strictly groove metal and should be categorized as such. —Preceding unsigned comment added by talk) 14:43, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

WRATH HAS DEBUTED AT 25 ON THE UK ALBUM CHART, INCLUDE THIS

leak?
The release date is advertised as the 24th of February, but the album is already commercially available in Australia (purchased today, 18th February). Perhaps it was moved forward to promote them ahead of their Australian tour? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.156.160.129 (talk) 03:32, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Is it necessary to give information about album's leak on internet? It is available on torrent trackers since last month..--85.101.172.182 (talk) 12:53, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
 * No it's not necessary. See WP:ALBUM. GeneralAtrocity (talk) 14:00, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, thanks for the info, I did not see the related page. --85.101.172.182 (talk) 14:44, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
 * The date an album was leaked onto the Internet is usually not notable, unless it resulted in some other action that is notable, such as being directly responded to by the musical artist or their management, or the leak itself receiving broad media coverage.

For those who are interested, the first two bonus songs and the rest of the album can now be found at 320kbps :P Thanks to the guy who added the 2 track lengths, that tipped me off >_< - At0m1Ca15 82.69.54.176 (talk) 10:51, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Final track leaked. http://www.panterachat.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=32096&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=4320 - At0m1Ca15 82.69.54.176 (talk) 12:42, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Every track is available for listening on their Myspace, and leaks are VERY common, so it is not notable. -Xanthic-Ztk (can't be bothered logging in)

Including the bonus tracks? :S 82.69.54.176 (talk) 06:39, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Deluxe Producer's Edition
Should we include a section on this in the article? They did this on sacrament and it got mentioned there so I don't see why we shouyldn't include it here. KezianAvenger (talk) 15:04, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Contractor Wikilink
When I click on the link for the song Contractor, it takes me to the page for the wikipedia definition of a contractor. I think this is a pretty irrelevant and misleading link. Most anyone listening to this kind of music is at an age where they know well enough what the word contractor means. I think the link should be removed until someone puts up a single page and then we can link it to that, as SHOULD have been done.Morbus Rising (talk) 17:31, 13 June 2010 (UTC) -UPDATE- The Set To Fail link is also wrong. It takes you back to the top of the Wrath page.Morbus Rising (talk) 17:33, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

-Update- I'm not waiting on you guys anymore, these links don't take people to anywhere relevent, so I'm deleting them now.Morbus Rising (talk) 14:40, 16 June 2010 (UTC)