Talk:Wu-Tang Clan/Archive 1

Wu-Tang Killa Bees: The Swarm
Should Wu-Tang Killa Bees: The Swarm technically be considered a wu-tang clan album since it features various other artists? Tutmosis 16:42, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I took them out.--Gяaphic 20:22, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Appearances
Was that Wu-Tang at Columbia University today (2006-04-22) in front of Low Library? I'm not really into rap, but they talked about ODB and had the audience do the W-symbol thing. If so, how can the school afford to hire such a famous group? -- ʀ6ʍ ɑ  ʏ89  20:02, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
 * $40,000 tuition. [unsigned]
 * Yea, it turned out to be Ghostface Killah. They paid him $50K.  There was an article in the school newspaper.

2000s link in influence section
The following link appears in the influence section: &#91;&#91;2000&#93;&#93;s I think that it really means: &#91;&#91;2000s&#93;&#93; I also think that it doesn't really need to be linked at all. WP:MOS-L says that such dates "should be treated like any other words and linked only where they are particularly relevant to the topic." Tim Ivorson 20:11, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Recent Ironman edits May 2006
The article says that Ghostface changes his name. Is that the case, or does he just have several different names? I've commented out the sentence "Up until then it was considered by mainstream hip-hop press to be one of the few second generation Wu-Tang solos to rise above mediocrity." from Ghostface's entry in the members section because it doesn't say when then is. Tim Ivorson 07:44, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
 * It was 2000 and Ghostface Killah changed his name officially to simply Ghostface for one album, The Pretty Toney Album, then changed it back for Fishscale. I will clarify. -- Gяaρнic  17:14, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Tim Ivorson 20:12, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Timeline
I gave it a start, but please for god's sake, someone help with it. It's going to be extremely tedious and irritating finding the exact release dates for the bazillion solo albums after 98-- Gяaρнic  08:51, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm glad Tim helped finish that up, but is there a way to make it not so...massive? Look at the table of contents for god's sake lol. I am not an expert on wiki code, rules, or formatting however. -- Gяaρнic  20:30, 11 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I've reduced the number of sections in the timeline. Perhaps what it really needs is the removal of all timeline subsections and the use of bold text instead to highlight important events. That would take up less space. Tim Ivorson 09:29, 12 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I agree, good work.-- Gяaρнic  01:37, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Sample Songs
I have to point out that there are some rather...weak songs up for display on the Clan. First of all, why put up "Sub-Crazy" off Tical? That's seriously one of the weakest songs off that album. Why not put "Tical" itself or "Biscuits" or "What the Blood Clot"? Also, why not put "Living in the World Today" or "Duel of the Iron Mic" for GZA - Method Man pretty much outshines him on "Shadowboxin'". Also, why is there nothing from Raekwon or Ghost? I suggest "Rainy Dayz", or "Criminology". Why "Visionz" and not "Triumph" or "Reunited"? If someone would teach me how to add songs on here with that odd format, I'd gladly do it myself.--Tainted Drifter 00:35, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

i agree with drifter on samples
there should be better sample songs. they should represent the best of the wu and have variety. he already made some good suggestions, but i dont know how to add songs either- Bigdan201 03:06, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Eh, these dumb asses don't listen.--Tainted Drifter 20:03, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

for a sample list just link to http://www.the-breaks.com/search.php?term=wu-tang&type=6 for a lot of the samples wu has used

Witty Unpredictable Talent And Natural Game?
the article states: RZA has stated that Wu-Tang stands for Witty Unpredictable Talent And Natural Game however there is no citation. further more 'Wutang' was a term often used in american dubs of kung fu movies to reference the legendary Wudangquan martial artists. This should probably be corrected. Alex Ov  Shaolin  07:31, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
 * It's a Backronym, like We Usually Take All N****s Garments. R e verendG 05:42, 11 November 2006 (UTC) Also, it is stated in the Wu-Tang Manual. R e verendG 00:06, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

try listening to the gza song called "labels". he says it.

Help needed
I've got rid of the trivia section by incorporating some into the article and deleting others. I've also tried to rewrite the "members" section which was appalling before, if anyone could help improve both this and the introduction, we can make a start on getting this to FA status. I also added a film and tv "references" section which seemed to be needed, I'd appreciate if someone would improve this. Powelldinho 03:06, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

January 23, 2007
on www.bestbuy.com ther says theres a wu-tang album comin out on 1-23-07

these no title for it though

ill put up a link

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?type=product&id=1614910

can someone shine som light on this for me?????Jimmypop1994 21:36, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

His title is "Unrealeasd" by Allah Mathematics (Wu Tang producer) get your mind right. featring new music from the Wu Tang Clan.

colloboration with French artists
I don't think anyone from the nine listed in the infobox participated in the particular video, but I was rather piqued after seeing a particular video done by French group IAM and Royal Fam, but it bore Wu-Tang in the title (La Saga) I do believe. I'm slightly curious about any cross-altantic colloboration, I note it wasn't discussed here. John Riemann Soong 03:30, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

New "Influence" paragraph
I just added a new paragraph to the influence section, concerning RZA's piano influence. RZA had at least a small influence of people playing more of their own samples, but I don't think that I have a source stating that. If someone could check the formatting, citation, etc. of my paragraph that would be nice. I'll try to add more cite to the rest of the article from my Wu-Tang manual.

Also, should there be a division between the influence ON the Wu-Tang Clan and the influence OF the Wu-Tang Clan?

Sp3z1aL 20:16, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

EDIT: I added another paragraph to Clothing Line, but I messed up the citation. How do I make it reference the same source as #1 without creating a new reference?


 * they seem to be influenced by kung fu films much more than other musical artists. -- Alex Ov  Shaolin  02:14, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Then should the first influence paragraph be moved to RZA's page specifically? I only added the piano/sampling part because RZA oversaw so many Wu production, such as "Liquid Swords," in which he played all the piano/synth (a lot).Sp3z1aL 00:38, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Topic
The more I read this article, the more I see that it's starting to get quite sloppy. I may rewrite some of it soon but I'd welcome any help.--Gяaphic 20:23, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I want to try and change some of the album cover pictures to actual photos, as just a bunch of album covers isn't very interesting to look at. Ironically, I added most of the covers...but still. Feel free to add any relavent photos you have. -- Gяaρнic  07:50, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Sounds good but most of the pictures I added ended up being deleted, I'm kinda new at the whole picture/fair use/copyright stuff. Lilwyte 00:17, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Two things: Jesusjonez 00:09, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
 * The article needs its TOC at the top, not down in the middle of the page. I propose everything from the fourth paragraph to where the TOC is currently be sectioned under something like "Biography".
 * Perhaps the list of aliases should be moved to a new page, or each artist's list of aliases added to the artist's respective article (which has been done already but they are inconsistent with this page).


 * the TOC being down in the middle was as a result of some vandalism shortly before your edits that removed all the paragraph headings. I've fixed it now.   And I agree about the aliases.  --Jamieli 00:32, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

deletion of section Think Differenty Music
This section is poorly written, even like an advertisement. It isn't clear what the project is. I have deleted it as such. If anyone wants to add it back in, please re-write in a more formal manner.

''Wu-Tang Meets the Indie Culture is an unprecedented pairing of Wu-Tang artists, producers and affiliates with some of independent hip-hop's East and West Coast elite. RZA, GZA, U-God, MF Doom, Ras Kass, Aesop Rock, Del tha Funky Homosapien, Sean Price, J-Live, Tragedy Khadafi, C-Rayz Walz, Planet Asia, RA the Rugged Man, Littles, Cannibal Ox, and many more artists, producers and even award winning filmmaker Jim Jarmusch, have come together for what will be a milestone release in the hip-hop landscape.''

--Soetermans 10:40, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * it's an album. it should properly have its own article and be added to the discography. doing now. tomasz.  10:46, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Fishscale.jpg
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Worldwide Platinum
As far as I know, there is no organization which certifies records for worldwide sales, so the figure for Wu-Tang Forever should be changed to something more representative (like 8 million, if that is the correct figure).

--62.142.198.22 20:25, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Location
Once again, someone put "from Staten Island", meanwhile five of the nine members are from Brooklyn: RZA, GZA, ODB, Masta Killa, U-God - all from Brooklyn....--Tainted Drifter 01:23, 14 January 2007 (UTC) well i didnt add it..

but the reason is because most of the members were raised and spent their childhoods residing in staten island..

a prime example of that is method man.. born in long island but raised in park slope staten

wu tang was formed by rza gza and odb in staten island

the group as a whole say they rep shaolin all the time..

and trust me.. im one of the BIGGEST WU TANG HEADS..

i do kno what im tlaking about! Steels 24.90.183.191 03:54, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Incorrect (blank) reference on origin
Under the Foundation section, the following quote:


 * The RZA and Ol' Dirty Bastard adopted the name for the group after seeing the Kung fu film Shaolin and Wu Tang, which features a school of warriors trained in Wu-Tang style. The group's debut album loosely adopted a Shaolin vs. Wu-Tang theme, dividing the album into Shaolin and Wu-Tang sections and using dialogue excerpts as skits.

was referenced as http://imdb.com/title/tt0083062/quotes. However, that is a page which contains no content when the link is followed. A new reference is required. Xargque 16:45, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

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Movies
Shouldn't there be a section on the movies endorsed by them? Or dubbed by them? (Volcano High) 70.51.10.244 06:13, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Raekwon And U God Dont Get Along ??
Somebody Wrote That On Trivia

Thats Wrong Though.. They Do Get Along..

They Joke Around While Discussing Things Such As What Album Is Better And Things Like That..

They Do That Alot.. Like One Time On Tour

Both Were Smacking Each Other Around Over Nothing ..

Plain Joking Around.. No Beef

So I Feel That The "Not Gettin Along Thing" Needs To Be Fixed Steels 24.90.183.191 04:05, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

I removed it, they have arguments with each other from time to time but from reading interviews i wouldnt say any members dont get along with each other. Including Rza and U-God lol. Alcryt 09:59, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

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Frenzal Rhomb
Didn't Australian punk band Frenzal Rhomb have a bit of a tif with The clan?

http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/jayandthedoctor/listen/audio_alpha_W.htm

Here —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.14.101.223 (talk) 12:07, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Merging
THIS ARTICLE SHOULD BE MERGED WITH GOD!!! Witty unpredictable talent all natural game!1!11oneone —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.160.254.36 (talk) 16:00, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Convicted felons
Whom are not convicted felons? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shoplifter (talk • contribs) 02:40, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * and while we're at it, how is the "convicted felons" information not WP:TRIVIA anyway?  tomasz.  09:55, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Video Games
I noticed this in the video games section: "Redman also provided both his voice and likeness in the form of a playable character in the game True Crime: New York City as well as two extra music tracks specially made for the game."

Redman is not a member of Wu Tang Clan so i see no reason to include that... Alcryt (talk) 18:12, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

In the game "Army Of Two" Salem Actually says that "Most people think it's RZA, but I prefer Ghostface killah" or something along those lines. The point, moreover, is that he never mentions a specific fondness for the RZA. 71.115.4.117 (talk) 06:06, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

System of a Down?
They made a song "Shame" with System of a Down. Should this be included? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.254.13.237 (talk) 23:53, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
 * actually that was SoAD covering a Wu-Tang Clan song with some Wu members. Probably not important enough for a mention in their encyclopedia article though.  tomasz.  09:11, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Also, some of them are working with system bassist shavo odadijan on a project called achozen. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.204.82.27 (talk) 04:08, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Covered at their article, listed here.  tomasz.  09:11, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

GZA issues with A&Rs
I took the section and quote about GZA's dislikeness towards A&R, and I moved it to his page, because I felt that it would be more appropriate and neccessary there. Is that okay? (LonerXL (talk) 21:32, 22 August 2008 (UTC))

Intro Paragraph
Redman is listed as one of the nine members of the group. While Red is definately part of the clan the Masta Killa should be listed as one of the original nine. Especially if you are gonna list ODB up there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.205.39.33 (talk) 13:58, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Cappadonna listed as a member?
Did they make him an official member? I would have thought he was an associate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Labodeng (talk • contribs) 18:46, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Members
The members' information, is it supposed to be here? There is a separate page for them so why is this taking space here? DukeTwicep (talk) 21:31, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Austin Bridges
Who the hell is Austin Bridges? Well until anyone says otherwise, I'm taking it down, because it's pretty misleading information, and I can't find anything on this guy. Besides. . .How does Austin Bridges sound standing next to "Rza, and Gza"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.50.187.233 (talk) 02:29, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Origin of name
The article talked about shaolin training of RZA and Ol'Dirty Bastard as reasons for the name. This was sourced to an article which says nothing about any martial arts training, but a movie they saw which inspired the name and dialogue from the film was used by the group on its first album. This has now been changed, in accordance with the source. 82.148.70.130 (talk) 22:07, 10 February 2009 (UTC)KJG

The article says the name comes from a province in China, but the official website (http://www.wutang-corp.com/artists/wu-tang-clan.php) says this: "Taking their group name from an powerful, mythical kung fu sword wielded by an invincible congregation of warriors, the crew is a loose collective of nine MCs."

dunno how to do this
but i thought id let whoever is listening that it says 36 chambers was released in 1994 even though in the main article it clearly states nov 1993 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.8.199.119 (talk) 01:00, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Cappadonna
It is listed in associated Wu-Tang articles that Cappadonna is a member of the group, so I think the template should reflect this. Also even the group's myspace page features Cappadonna in the group picture. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Metalb (talk • contribs) 00:46, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

cleanup
there was a random "BITCH" in ghostface's bio, i deleted it. --172.166.61.78 21:58, 6 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Wow thank you so much. No need to edit the talk page for this :) Hrhadam (talk) 00:40, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Wu-Tang Clan
Wu-Tang Clan From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (Redirected from Wu Tang Clan) Jump to: navigation, search "Wu-Tang" redirects here. For other uses, see Wu-Tang (disambiguation). {{Infobox musical artist Background information | Name = Wu-Tang Clan | Img = WuTangClan.png | Img_capt = Members of the Wu-Tang Clan and their affiliates performing at the Virgin Festival in Baltimore. From left: Mathematics (background), Inspectah Deck, Streetlife, U-God, Cappadonna (crouched), Method Man, GZA, Raekwon, RZA. | Landscape = yes | Background = group_or_band | Origin = Staten Island, New York, U.S. | Genre = East Coast hip hop | Years_active = 1990 – present | Occupation = | Label = Loud/RCA/BMG Records (1993–1998) Loud/Columbia/SME Records (1999–2001) Wu Music Group/SRC/Universal Motown/Loud (2007–present) | Associated_acts = Gravediggaz, Killarmy, Streetlife, Sunz of Man, Black Knights of the North Star, Wu-Tang Killa Beez, Achozen, Killah Priest, Cappadonna | Current_members = RZA GZA Ol' Dirty Bastard (decaesed) Method Man Raekwon Ghostface Killah Inspectah Deck U-God Masta Killa Cappadonna Mathematics —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.246.123.57 (talk) 21:32, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Archiving
Any one opposed to me setting up automated archiving of this talk page with USer:MiszaBot I? It's not likely to be a particularly onerous deal, but this page is already 42K. ~ Amory ( user •  talk  •  contribs ) 22:50, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

"This can be viewed on youtube"
wouldn't it be better to reference a specific youtube video? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.172.201.80 (talk) 22:36, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
 * it'd be better if it were removed altogether. YouTube isn't an acceptable source and the tone of that prose is terrible.  tomasz.  00:05, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Photo
can someone find a picture with MORE THAN ONE member of the Clan? who's that dude on the left??! Es-won 15:11, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

I agree. The main photo that is currently up is complete garbage and very unprofessional looking for this page. The Wu deserves a better main photo ... such as an actual group photo. If anyone has any, please upload —Preceding unsigned comment added by Supremeclientele (talk • contribs) 23:36, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Finally I Found The Perfect Wu-Tang Clan Main Photo
Let me know what you think. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rumpro (talk • contribs) 01:08, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Controversy
Certain Wu Tang lyrics contain anti-white sentiment and racism. Doesn't this require mentioning? It certainly would if a white artist were racist in their music. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sherlock Bones (talk • contribs) 13:08, 11 February 2007 (UTC).

What song do they do this in? -Bruno

Wu Tang Is Influenced By The 5 Percent Mentality..

Which Teaches That Whites Are Considered Devils..

Its Not Racist.. Steels 24.90.183.191 03:55, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

I saw a cartoon a while back on Wu Tangs' website where Jesus is beheaded and his essence is absorbed and used to form the Wu-tang clan. Does anyone know where I can find it so I can put as a source? its not on youtube. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Debo7 (talk • contribs) 23:21, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

The only thing i can think of his when raekwon says "stickin up white boys in ball courts" on the song "Can it be all so simple" on the 36 chambers album. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.234.73.129 (talk) 19:43, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Even on that tune, Raekwon follows that line up by saying: "Figured out i went the wrong route", seemingly recognising the error on his ways. Also, there is a tune on the Wu Tang Killa Bees album which is performed by a white, Jewish MC. Only racism I can think of is ODB tune Rollin Wit You, which contains a spoken word introduction in which the artist declares: "You white motherfuckers can never take over, you can never take over. You shut the fuck up, and you shut the fuck up." Mahrooq (talk) 14:15, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Redman
Redman should not be listed in the external links. he is not, nor has ever been a member. He collaborates often (mostly with Method Man) but that would be like putting an external link to Mobb Deep on a Nas page. stop changing it back, please AlexLoeher (talk) 23:30, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Shaolin Vs. Wu-Tang should not be in the discography section
I don't understand why people keep adding it. The album was brought up by Raekwon several years ago when 8 Diagrams first came out, and has not been mentioned since. Also, Raekwon is the only Wu member to have mentioned it, no one else has. Ghost and Rae settled their differences with RZA, and Raekwon had RZA produce several tracks off of his new album, as well as allowing him to be an executive producer. Unless we can get CURRENT proof of it, it should be left off of the discography section. I should also add that the album Method Man wants to do with RZA, Rae, and Ghost is not "Shaolin Vs. Wu-Tang."--76.17.200.34 (talk) 02:53, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

raekwon has just released the shaolin vs wu tang album. This is the main song off it. However it is not a wu tang album it is a solo album by Raekwon. Rap examiner (talk) 22:53, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

RZA = Rakeem ?
As far as I know, RZA's alias didn't come from scratching the word "Rakeem", but "Razor" instead. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 212.25.59.14 (talk) 05:34, 26 January 2007 (UTC).

Nope It Came From The Word Resurrector..

He Claims To Resurrect The Mentally Dead..

Thats How The Name Rza Was Pioneered.. Steels 24.90.183.191 03:55, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

The name RZA means a lot of different things I think. It stands for Redeemer Zig-Zag-Zig Allah and it is also meant to sound like a DJ scratching. Im not sure if the name RZA comes from anywhere else. I think the name RZArector came from RZA and not the other way around. Rap examiner (talk) 16:05, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

Cappadonna an official member?
The rummor of him being an offical member keeps finding its way on this page, and it has only ONE source to back it up. If Cappadonna was offically a member right before 8 Diagrams, don't you think he would at least be on the album's cover? If he were an official member, don't you think this would be mentioned on their official wbsite? Take a look at his personal bio on Wu's offical website, it mentions that he made a comeback on 8 Diagrams, but there's no mention of him being an offical member. Wikipedia is an online ENCYCLOPEDIA, not an online blog to post rummors. Unless we can get reliable, credible sources, this claim should not be on here.--76.17.200.34 (talk) 01:31, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Is it possible to get a faster bot or protection or something to prevent all this vandalism and the inclusion of Cappadonna? seriously, sometimes, the vandals get away from time to time and i cant always correct these idiots. how can we go through the process of making this a protected page? AlexLoeher (talk) 23:52, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Members section should be earlier in the article?
It seems a bit strange to have the "Members" section -- which outlines each member of the group, a crucial aspect of understanding the Clan -- come after the "Wu-Tang affiliates" section. This implied hierarchy gives the impression that the affiliates are more important than the members! Maybe the order of these sections should be switched around? -220.245.253.81 (talk) 02:48, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Ghostface dising Sean Combs in his own blog, who took this out!
i add abit about Ghostface dising Sean Combs in his  blog. but it got removed why?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.31.56.93 (talk) 07:30, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Inspectah Deck not from The Bronx
He was only born there, but was raised and is from the Park Hill projects of Staten Island, the same as most of the members. This should be taken out and Deck should be added in with the other members from Staten Island (Shaolin). Wufan10304 (talk) 20:27, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

wutang history
For wu tang history, how did they meet up and everything like that. I thought that they were all members of 5 percenters and that is how they meet up really.


 * RZA, GZA, and Ol' Dirty are cousins. The Genius started rapping and got his cousin Prince Rakeem into doing it back in the 1980s. RZA got his friends from Park Hill projects and formed a group called All In Together Now, later adding other members after the Tommy Boy and Cold Chillin' record deals of Rakeem and Genius, respectively, to form the Wu-Tang Clan. When forming the debut album, Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers), RZA oversaw the formation of the group by having the best verses on the album, in which 9 members were formally selected. Masta Killa was the last to join and as such, was only on one song on the debut since he was incarcerated at the time. Masta Killa was taught how to rhyme by GZA, a friend of his from the Brownsville projects of Brooklyn. The members from Park Hill projects were brought in by RZA. Cappadonna later unofficially joined at the behest of Raekwon and Ghostface Killah, first appearing on their debut albums, respectively. Wufan10304 (talk) 20:39, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 22 July 2012
The citation needed tag on the System of a Down comment is unnecessary. A simple google search pulls up more than enough proof, including lyrics pages, youtube videos of the song (which is actually quite good if you're a SOAD fan), and other articles about the cover.

TopherChico (talk) 16:44, 22 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: We need a WP:RS for the statement.  If you can find one with Google, then please provide it.  RudolfRed (talk) 18:28, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

The current section about SOAD seems wrong. The metioned track was at released after the first SOAD ablum. The song was on the "Loud Rocks" sampler in 2000, two years after the first album. So 1. it is not an unreleased track and 2. there is no proof that it was recorded before the first SOAD album. --Flowzn (talk) 10:56, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Change the SOAD section to what is fact and can be proven. But I am in favor of removing the SOAD section completely, because I think it doesn't fit within the "Wu-Tang affiliates and associates" section. --Flowzn (talk) 10:17, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 19 May 2013
Change their classic albums spawned classic records, change that to singles.

James Saxophone 05:46, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: The sentence "Their classic albums spawned classic albums." is a quote taken directly from the source article. -- El Hef  ( Meep ? ) 20:53, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Edit request 21 May 2013
The IPA at the top of the page states that Wu-Tang is pronounced when it should probably be  cf. in, as in baseball bat: try to use this sound while saying "tang"; also, note anytime the phrase "Wu-Tang" is used in any song.

--Fjak (talk) 17:05, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

This doesn't sound very objective
"The Clan had so many characters, each with his own eccentricities. They were fearless in their approach. There's a good reason no group has been able to successfully recreate their sound." 173.24.51.6 (talk) 09:38, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Cappadonna again
There has always been a back and forth on whether Cappadonna is considered an official member of the group, his section in the article sums all that up. He has not been credited as a featured artist on a few of their albums and just yesterday RZA said he has been one of the most active workers on the new Wu-Tang album. We might not have gotten an official proclamation of his induction, but if you see recent reliable sources such as, "After being absent from Enter the Wu-Tang: 36 Chambers, a timeless classic, he forced the original nine members of the Wu-Tang Clan to rethink that decision. Ultimately, he was able to impress them enough to earn a spot in the clan as the official tenth member.", , "Cappadonna who joined the group for their second album", and. Judging by the amount of recent reliable sources referring to him as a member of the group and RZA saying he was one of the most active group members recording A Better Tomorrow, he is an official group member.  STATic  message me!  22:46, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I think there's too much interpretation there. The distinction isn't between member and non-member, it's between "official" or "full" member and "unofficial" or "less-than-full" member. Rza doesn't say Cappadonna is a member equal to the other members, he just says he's been actively involved in the production of the album, which you'd also expect if he was the "unofficial tenth member". If you look at the official site, for instance, he's not listed as a member, and is only explicitly identified as a Wu-Tang family solo artist and a member of the Killa Beez. The fact that there's always been controversy around his membership status is all the more reason to avoid unambiguously listing him as a fully-fledged member. I think a little note beside his name flagging this ambiguity/controversy is reasonable, and I actually prefer this solution to his removal from the list altogether. Listing it unambiguously smacks of misinformation. - Wetdogmeat (talk) 23:22, 10 November 2013 (UTC)


 * We need more backing then just an "official site" that has not been updated in years. We are talking about what the recent reliable news sources refer to the subject/group as. The recent MTV article said that he joined the group on their second album, where he was not credited as a featured artist, same with a few other albums. The HipHopDX source that includes an interview with Cap says, "After being absent from Enter the Wu-Tang: 36 Chambers, a timeless classic, he forced the original nine members of the Wu-Tang Clan to rethink that decision. Ultimately, he was able to impress them enough to earn a spot in the clan as the official tenth member." I could shortly find many more reliable sources that refers to him as a member of the group. However, thank you for the attempt to compromise rather than reverting.  STATic  message me!  02:13, 11 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Well, the website is current to the post-8 Diagrams period, and is after all the official site (and it's the 'official' status of Cappadonna's membership that's in question, so I'd say that actually settles that question conclusively). I think you also know plenty of sources could be found that reinforce the disputed status of his membership. Wouldn't you agree you're cherry-picking? You cite HipHopDX, for instance, but their own review of Cappadonna's latest album even refers to his membership as "unofficial". And here they again say he's "officially unofficial". In this MTV article from 2003 he's refered to as a "former affiliate", not a member. The fact that these sites contradict themselves only underlines the ambiguity/controversy, and we should take that into account. A small note by his name in the members list solves this problem and accurately reflects the content of the article body, where this disputed status is made very clear; whereas the argument that you're making (that he is now unambiguously a fully-fledged member) appears nowhere in the article. - Wetdogmeat (talk) 02:46, 11 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Again I am not saying he has always been a member, but all recent sources have referred to him as a member. Comparing a MTV article from 2003 to a 2013 article is ridiculous, and again one HipHopDX source is from 2011, the one I provided is from this year. We are talking about the current happenings of the group not an archive of 2008-2009, the last time their "official site" was updated. More sources from this year:


 * NME: "Wu-Tang Clan member Cappadonna says 'recording has begun' on new album"
 * XXL: "Wu-Tang Clan member Cappadonna released his debut album The Pillage. The Staten Island emcee was included in the original line-up of the Wu with Raekwon, RZA and Ol’ Dirty Bastard, however, he was replaced by Method Man after he was sent to jail."
 * Complex: Including one of his albums in their list of the best Wu-Tang albums  STATic  message me!  03:03, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
 * It's not ridiculous - your MTV source says he became a member after the second album; 2003 is after the fourth album, and they were still referring to him as an affiliate. That's a contradiction in the source. And not all recent sources refer to him as a member; I just gave you a HipHopDX source from this year that describes his membership as "officially unofficial". And here are more sources from this year referring to the Wu as an eight-member group:, , , . The inclusion of a Cappadonna album in Complex's list of the best Wu-Tang albums is irrelevant unless you also want to add Killah Priest, Killarmy and Gravediggaz to the members list (and here's a Complex article from two days ago that ranks the members by their 'styles' and doesn't include Cappadonna). The fact is that you're cherry-picking. There are as many or more (I would say more) sources that reinforce the disputed status of his membership than there are sources that assert his official/fully-fledged membership. His status is disputed and we should acknowledge that; or rather, we do acknowledge that, and our infobox should reflect the acknowledgment in the article body. - Wetdogmeat (talk) 03:31, 11 November 2013 (UTC)


 * We should remove him off the members list, putting "unofficial member" next to his name looks very unprofessional and confusing. Koala15 (talk) 03:38, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I think it looks fine, but if it's a choice between listing him as a fully-fledged member or not listing him at all, I'd choose the latter. - Wetdogmeat (talk) 03:45, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I guess we should wait until some sort of official announcement, but if in the coming months RZA makes some sort of announcement of him being an official member, or he is featured on the cover of A Better Tomorrow or something else undeniable that he is a official member of the group then we shall remove the little note. I mean at this point is seems pretty clear that he is an official member. Either way, the current compromise is fine with me.  STATic  message me!  05:41, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

UPDATES
This needs to be updated. Why should anyone have to run through hoops to edit. Isn't this Wikipedia?

From digital to analogue, the Wu wear camouflage. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fourkicks4410 (talk • contribs) 11:52, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

New Single From A Better Tomorrow
It's called "Family Reunion" sampling the O'Jays. It features Masta Killa, Method Man & Ghostface Killah — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.228.145.233 (talk) 15:20, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

"Family Reunion" will not be on A Better Tomorrow, that was a stand-alone song for a reunion celebration. The lead single was released by RZA in March titled "Keep Watch" featuring Nathaniel. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wufan10304 (talk • contribs) 21:37, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

"A Better Tomorrow" is not the LP name Officially
U-God himself towards the end of this interview with Arise Ent. confirms ABT is a working titled and may be called something else in the future. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.228.145.233 (talk) 22:53, 27 June 2013 (UTC)


 * In more recent sources RZA, Raekwon and Cap have confirmed the title. If they change the name then we can change it.  STATic  message me!  04:02, 8 July 2013 (UTC)


 * RZA has stated the album will be called A Better Tomorrow. Also their official website (http://www.wumusicgroup.com/) is marketing it and taking pre-orders for July under that title. It's not tentative, it's legit. RZA calls all the shots pretty much and owns the Wu-Tang name. His reasons stated are for all the Wu's accomplishments in the industry over the 20 years of their legacy and as their final album, created as a anniversary celebration piece and a tribute to the fans, they have left their mark and are looking forward to a better tomorrow. Sort of like saying it's all on the next generation of MCs; passing the torch. The Wu is done, their solo projects will be all that remain, save maybe a couple of compilations RZA will put out under Soul Temple. Wufan10304 (talk) 22:00, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Wu-Tang Acronym
Is it true that Wu-Tang is an acronym standing for Wisdom, Universe, Truth, Allah, Nation, God ? --172.181.49.157 20:05, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * "Wu-Tang" has been backronymed into a few different things. The one you heard appeared, I think, in "Bellz of War" on Wu-Tang Forever where RZA states that it's the "Wisdom of the Universe, and the Truth of Allah... for the Nation of the Gods."  Another backronym is "Witty Unpredictable Talent and Natural Game." -- ChrisCostello 06:24, May 1, 2005 (UTC)
 * Also "We Usually Take Another Nigga's Garments" &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Graphic (talk • contribs).
 * Actually, "We Usually Take All Nigga's Garments" - this is the first one used (see 7th Chamber, 1st verse) &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 129.133.4.36 (talk • contribs).
 * More specifically, to get the punctuation without grammatical error, it is "We Usually Take All Niggaz' Garments," as in, a non-possessive apostrophe at the end of the word meaning plural, or, the garments of all individuals, and not a possessive apostrophe, which would mean that the garments belong only to one individual. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wufan10304 (talk • contribs) 19:54, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

What about PEACE - Positive Energy Activates Constant Elevation

or Proper Education Always Corrects Error

or Positive Education Activates Creative Energy

??? These have all been said by RZA (RulerZigZagZig-ALLAH[Arm Leg Leg Arm Head - ie human, me]) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.106.19.53 (talk) 22:22, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Wu-Tang Manual
Someone who has the Wu-Tang Manual needs to rewrite a lot of this article as much of it differs with RZA's own words, --Graphic 23:06, 27 August 2005 (UTC)


 * I have it, and i dont really see anything that does differ. --Jamieli 09:01, 28 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I meant that while it's generally accurate, the article could be a lot more accurate and in depth if the Wu-Tang Manual was used as a guide. For example, the exact circumstances surrounding the creation of Wu-Tang.  Generally the story is that RZA, GZA and ODB started it but in the manual RZA states that he and Ghostface got together then invited people to come to the studio.--Graphic 07:02, 11 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Agreed with this, wholeheartedly. I have for years noticed the inaccuracies on this page. I have the Manual and can lend my typing fingers. But I'm afraid the mods hate me and delete any changes I make. However, the RZA-written book is the Bible of the Clan - it is regardless what any Wikipedia mod will tell you the most detailed, accurate information on the group and should be taken as absolute canon, including the spellings of RZA's and GZA's names in all caps regardless of English rules. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wufan10304 (talk • contribs) 19:59, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Ambiguities
I'm by no means an expert on Wu-Tang, but reading this article there were two things that struck me. 1) surreal is used multiple times and I have no clue what it means in context. What exactly is a "surreal beat"? That could be explained maybe. 2) There seems to be some incongruity for me. Like the article is talking about the oversaturation of Wu Tang related products, yet everything (according to this article) apparently received "mixed but basically positive reviews."


 * I wrote that, and I used metacritic.com as a source. link

Is that really the case? I remember reading some reviews of Iron Flag awhile back and they were pretty scathing, although I have no idea if they were representetive of reviews on a whole. It just seems like there are instances where people are being too polite and are trying to gloss over their failures and focus solely on their successes. Oh, and a third thing: "As well as the releases from the nine Clansmen and the most high-ranking affiliates, there was a long line of mostly poorly-received releases from lower-ranking affiliates such as Popa Wu, Shyheim, GP Wu, and Wu-Syndicate, second albums from Gravediggaz and Killarmy, as well as a greatest hits album, a b-sides compilation, and Wu-Tang branded clothing and video games. The Wu Wear clothing line in particular was massively influential on hip hop culture" how did we go from "mostly poorly-received" to "in particular was massively influential." I mean, I "get" the sentence, it's just confusing the way it's written.


 * I only meant the "relases from lower-ranking affiliates" were poorly-received. I can see how the "in particular" is somewhat confusing though.  --Jamieli 13:42, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

Critics seemed to like Iron Flag, fans didn't respond so well to it.Lilwyte 02:31, 30 April 2007 (UTC)


 * That's because critics are used to the industry standard of radio friendly structured songs and the fans know the Wu sound better, the chorus-less, raw rhyming over dark beats that the Wu is known for. So when they come with a rushed album within a year from their last release, like Iron Flag, with songs like "Radioactive (Four Assassins)" and "Dashing (Reasons)", fans dislike it because that isn't the Wu sound. Only a few good tracks on that entire album including the "Iron Flag" title track and maybe two others. Critics don't look at it from a Wu-fanbase or Wu-sound perspective, and are more blind to the opinions and desires of the fans. A relative side point: critics don't help the Wu sell albums, the fans do. Wufan10304 (talk) 20:06, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

36 Chambers
It might be appropriate somewhere to mention explanations of the term and it's usage. Including RZA's explanations relating to Chinese mythology (anyone know if any of that is true to actual folklore?) and also the reference to the address of their first studio at 36 Chambers St. I'm not really sure where this stuff would fit in...but it would be a nice addition if someone has a bit more knowledge than I about the Wu.


 * It came from the kung-fu movie Master Killer a.k.a. 36 Chambers of Shaolin and I believe the number 36 was retrospectively given extra meanings, though I'm not willing to make that part official with an edit.--Graphic 14:13, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

well I wonder whether the reference to the movie came before they rented studio space at 36 chambers st. or after...anyone know? &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jmejia (talk • contribs).

Ive heard that 36 chambers comes from the 9 members hearts. As in the 4 chambers of each of their hearts.4x9=36.Its probably nothing to do with it.The part were it says "It came from the kung-fu movie Master Killer a.k.a. 36 Chambers of Shaolin" is probably the right answer.


 * It also comes from RZA's extensive use of numerology, as he states without a doubt in The Wu-Tang Manual, which is the true information on the group. Such as 7 is the God number ("Meet me a the God hour"=7:00, or, "7 in the center of the eight-point sun"=Knowledge, Wisdom, Understanding=Man, Woman, Child=Heavenly Father, Jesus Christ, Holy Ghost, etc., etc.), 36 Chambers are the stages of the Wu-Tang sword style a Shaolin monk must master in order to become Wu-Tang. This is why their art is so deadly and unmatched. So it comes directly from the movie and applies to their music. RZA also states that there is 10 members of the Wu-Tang Clan (including Cappadonna) and 36 x 10 = 360 which brings it full circle. Wufan10304 (talk) 20:17, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

"The" Wu-Tang
I removed most instances of "the" before "Wu-Tang" except where it is proper. The group's official name is absent of "the." Also, you wouldn't for example call Green Day or something "the" Green Day. It would only seem proper to refer to them as "the" Wu-Tang Clan if they were an actual clan, like "the Hojo clan" or "the Hojos." That's because you'd refer to as one Hojo as "a" Hojo, but you wouldn't refer to Raekwon as "a" Wu-Tang. They aren't Wu-Tangs, they are members of Wu-Tang. No need for "the." On the other hand, I have capitalized "the" in all instances of "The RZA" since it is clear that this is what he prefers to be called.--Graphic 05:06, 16 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately the Wikipedia mods hate this and if they haven't changed it back they will. They also hate RZA referring to himself as RZA and instead want to have this be the only site where they use the ignoramus punctuation of Rza. Same with GZA's name as well. English rules do not matter as English rules did not create RZA's name or GZA's, but the creators' spelling/punctuation is the true source. As I said, on Wikipedia it's blatant ignorance and arrogance of such. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wufan10304 (talk • contribs) 20:22, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Cappadonna
Though the writing was decent, Cappadonna isn't an official member so he doesn't belong in the main members section. However, if the article does not mention his closeness to the group I will try and fit it in somewhere, perhaps using some of the wording from what I removed.-- Gяaρнic  03:17, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

-He should be considered an official member for all intensive purposes of this article. His contributions were not marked as 'featured' on Wu-Tang Forever, whereas other artists' features were. This changed for the release of The W, because of his weakening ties with Wu-Tang. He was not on Iron Flag, but he was there for all of the promotional shoots and is on the cover (barely), and you can hear him on certain songs. As of late, he has reunited with Wu-Tang Clan and should be considered a member for the aforementioned reasons.

- Which purposes are "intensive"?Labodeng (talk) 15:43, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

- To be honest though, it says "feat. Cappadonna" on every track he's on on the back cover —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.23.149.250 (talk) 15:01, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

-On the official page of the Wu-Tang Cappadona isn't mentioned in the list of members, I think that about sums it up http://www.wutang-corp.com/artists/wu-tang-clan.php —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.139.199.43 (talk) 01:02, 18 April 2008 (UTC)


 * That is not the official page of the Wu-Tang, that site is run by Cilvaringz' management, not the Wu. Their site is http://wumusicgroup.com/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wufan10304 (talk • contribs) 20:25, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

- I believe he was official at one point, circa The W. Hrhadam (talk) 00:39, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Location
It says that Wu-Tang is from Staten Island, however; half of the members are also from Brooklyn. Such as: RZA, GZA, ODB, Masta Killa & U-God. I'll fix it.--Tainted Drifter 19:45, 25 August 2006 (UTC)


 * That's not right either, only 3 members are actually from Brooklyn: ODB, GZA, Masta Killa. U-God is from Park Hill, Staten Island. RZA is mainly from Stapleton, Staten Island, with Ghostface Killah, where they were roommates and started Wu-Tang, but RZA also alternated back to Park Hill to the Diggs family home with the basement he created all those beats in. All the other members are from Park Hill, including Cappadonna. Wufan10304 (talk) 20:33, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Wu Symbol
It has always been common knowledge in the Graffiti world that the Wu symbol was designed by Gano VGL aka Gano Grills. It says as much on Gano's page and his IMDb biography. Can someone clarify?

Not sure, but ganos wiki page says it too. This should go in the trivia section. Bigdan201 08:56, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

It was created by Wu Tang affiliate and DJ Mathematics, he talks about it in all his interviews and Rza says it in the Wu Tang Manual


 * Confirmed it was created by Robert Bean aka Mathematics, the Wu's tour DJ and one of RZA's Wu Elements production crew who came to prominence producing Wu songs during Wu-Tang Forever. The first cover to the "Protect Ya Neck" single showcases a prototype W logo designed by Math. It was later redesigned into its' current state. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wufan10304 (talk • contribs) 20:37, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

History section needs some cleaning
This section has been edited and now shows "second string of solo albums" after the Forever album, but doesn't show a first or third but then later states "fourth round of solo albums" - first of all decide if it should say strings or rounds, then add in all the other blocks, so like this: "36 Chambers and first round of solo albums", "Wu-Tang Forever and second round of solo albums", "The W, Iron Flag, and third round of solo albums", "8 Diagrams and fourth round of solo albums", and finally, "A Better Tomorrow and fifth round of solo albums". Wouldn't this make more sense then having it stated the way it is now? Wufan10304 (talk) 22:10, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm really bad at Wikipedia coding or whatever, but "origins" is terrible. It seems to start with previous information that has been deleted. I'm very interested to know ho all these guys came together, and this article was horrible in solving that for me, and is barely legible. Wish I could fix it, but I can't  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.56.17.184 (talk) 03:50, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 August 2014
Years active	1992–present Change to: Years active	1992–Present

RussianNinjaCat (talk) 20:12, 19 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Why would that be capitalized? --SubSeven (talk) 23:03, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
 * ❌ It won't be done - as that would contravene the instructions at Template:Infobox musical artist - Arjayay (talk)

Once Upon a Time In Shaolin
The Wu-Tang Clan are releasing a single copy of their new album "Once Upon a Time in Shaolin". I know that it isn't a conventional album but I think that it should be referenced in the discography section of the article, if for some reason it's inclusion in the discography section is inappropriate then it should at least be mentioned somewhere; the "2011-present" section makes no reference to it or the goals of the project at all. User:Guest (talk) 20:02, 9 May 2014 (BST) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.205.1.1 (talk)


 * I agree with this. Once Upon a Time in Shaolin is a piece of music history. To the best of my knowledge, no other artist or group has ever done anything like it. Even if it has been done before, it is still a pretty significant event. Even if there is very limited knowledge on it, it should be mentioned at the very least. Fans should be able to read at least a little about such a significant album. Rouse52794 (talk) 14:29, 14 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Then feel free to add the information along with reliable sources. STATic message me!   00:29, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi guys, I have put in a paragraph about Once Upon A Time In Shaolin as I thought it was a pretty glaring omission from the page given the amount of publicity it raised a few months ago. I'm fairly new to editing wikipedia, so I assume that maybe some of you might want to edit it to make it more readable/put in new sources or whatever.86.20.67.81 (talk) 11:48, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

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Wu-Tang: The Saga Continues is a Mathematics producer album
Please stop listing this as the next Clan group album. The next Clan group album is being spear-headed by Ghostface Killah, as was stated many times by both RZA and Ghostface. Ghostface has said in interviews this year that the next Wu group album will come only after he releases his sequel solo album Supreme Clientele Presents... Blue & Cream: The Wally Era, which may not get released until 2018 or later. Wu-Tang: The Saga Continues was crafted by Mathematics and is his album. Please go re-watch those interviews with Math and RZA and try to understand what it is they are saying. He produced the whole album, it's his baby. RZA says in that interview that this project was Math's idea he had for years. Much in the same vein Math released his other albums, Love, Hell or Right (Da  Come Up), The Problem, Mathematics Presents Wu-Tang Clan & Friends: Unreleased, Mathematics Presents The Return of Wu-Tang Clan & Friends, and The Answer. It is not a Clan album. Please stop undoing removal edits of this album on this page. It is borderline edit warring. Wufan10304 (talk) 17:37, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

Use of slang in article
Some parts of the article use words outside the Queen's English or standard American English (New York slang), and I believe that as an encyclopedia, we should maintain the use of a formal tone. Thanks, Branchofpine. Branchofpine, Have a chat, My edits 16:44, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

To add to article
To add to article: the group originated in the Park Hill neighborhood of Staten Island. 76.189.141.37 (talk) 23:52, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 March 2018
Their 7th studio album Once Upon a Time in Shaolin (2015) is missing from discography section, as is their 8th album The Saga Continues (2017) 62.80.251.111 (talk) 19:48, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Upsidedown Keyboard (talk) 01:10, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

FBI and Shaolin
The Guardian claims that the FBI did indeed confiscate the album - https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/mar/06/martin-shkreli-wu-tang-clan-album-shaolin-seized-federal-court

"The double Wu-Tang Clan album, Once Upon a Time in Shaolin, is part of a bundle of assets worth $7.36m seized by a federal court" Not sure how accurate this is but could deserve an edit? Oscar Simpson (talk) 08:21, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Unsourced content
There are huge chunks of completely unsourced content on this article. I'll try to sort it out. Aitch &#38; Aitch Aitch (talk) 12:24, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 January 2019
I think you should mention Rockin' Da North band because Wu Tang members such as GZA have featured in their tracks Woltti Wiki (talk) 19:18, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:47, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

Boy band
Would they be considered a boy band, seeming they meet these standards? 2001:8003:38EB:5400:8515:BA59:B6A1:903E (talk) 12:28, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 October 2020
Can the Wu-Tang logo be added to this fantastic page toward the top... as the first image? i like to share the hyper-link and the image preview is not great, looking rather fake.

thanks! Ghostinthedao (talk) 01:13, 8 October 2020 (UTC) Ghostinthedao (talk) 01:13, 8 October 2020 (UTC)


 * ❌. Any requests to add an image to the article must first have the image uploaded to Commons, but logos are a bit complicated. See c:Commons:Copyright_rules_by_subject_matter for more information. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon &bull; videos) 16:33, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

disambig
"Wu-Tang Clan" originally refers to the fictional Wudang Sect. There should at least be a direct disambig link.--2.200.163.53 (talk) 18:24, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 March 2021
"griup" should be changed to "group" where it says "In 2004, the griup embarked on a short European tour" Egior (talk) 01:24, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done — see Special:Diff/1012742847. Thanks! DanCherek (talk) 02:03, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Broken Link On "A Better Tomorrow" section
The section about the album "A Better Tomorrow" contains a link to the movie: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Better_Tomorrow. The link should be to the album: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Better_Tomorrow_(album) Please change the link source code from roughly:  to  Thank you. Doomchalice5 (talk) 20:50, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ ASUKITE  02:19, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Update storyline on album once upon a time in shaolin
The album has been Repurchased/listened to since shkrelli was convicted of securities fraud and forced to release ownership of the album 2601:58C:102:C6B0:8971:C36A:3D68:CB2B (talk) 06:05, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

Martin Shkreli
User Laterskaterx added "fascist" in front of "hedge fund manager Martin Shkreli". The source doesn't call him a fascist, I can't see where this claim comes from. Suggest removal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dayatil (talk • contribs) 23:06, 10 February 2022 (UTC)


 * ✅. Pinging In the future to get attention I reccomend using the edit semi-protected, or other appropriate template to get editors attention to something that needs fixing.  IAm  Chaos  23:09, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

OLD DIRTY BASTARD
I dont think because old dirty bastard died he should be labeled as a former member, he should be labeled as a member but decesed. for after all he never left the group before he died.

-Yeah I changed that back because I agree with you on that one.

Once an artist dies, they automatically become a former member of whichever group they were a part of. That's standard. The group itself may "immortally enshrine" him if they choose, but that's not how Wikipedia works.StrangeApparition2011 (talk) 15:18, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 April 2023
You need to change the past members, because there are no past members, if you would ask them I think ol dirty bastard is still a member DeeJayHorne98 (talk) 03:15, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: It appears the person in question died in 2004, and therefore cannot possibly be part of any group. Tollens (talk) 03:26, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

Ol' Dirty Bastard
The apostrophe in his name is incorrect in the first few lines on the page and must be corrected. 2A02:C7C:847D:400:F437:F4F7:2B72:EBF1 (talk) 19:42, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

What should be updated
I added a tag stating that this article needed to be updated a while back. I'll probably get around to updating it myself when I'm less busy, but if anyone's interested as well here are some things I thought should be added:

- The Saga Continues (2017)

- Glastonbury (2019)

- NY State of Mind Tour (2022-2023)

If there's anything else not listed here that is missing feel free to add it here too. Thanks! Dantus21 (talk) 22:53, 23 December 2023 (UTC)