Talk:Wyastone Leys

Initial draft
not finished yet need to add
 * John Arthur Murray Bannerman
 * Alfred Hickman
 * Brigadier R.P. Waller

R. P Waller was the commander of the 10th Indian Infantry Division 1942. He moved to the house in 1946
 * Nimbus

1973 up for sale When Nimbus Records took the building over they converted the flats back into the house and re hung some of the Tapestries from the earlier house.


 * Hill Fort
 * E R

Anthony Cope (talk) 15:37, 9 March 2012 (UTC) Ref:

Ownership Gap
"In 1894 the house came up for sale .."

but then

"..Sir Alfred and Lady Hickman were the next occupants of the house living there from at least 1940"

Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:41, 16 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm having trouble finding info to plug the gaps with data. 1911 census was of no use as the butler was listed as the head of house so the owners were elsewhere Anthony Cope (talk) 23:14, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
 * We do need to be aware of WP:NOR - no original research - and the need to use reliable, published sources. I'm sure we are.  ;-)  Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:32, 19 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Not sure what you mean. I thought census records are acceptable as they are published documents up to 1911. There are templates for census references . I think I may need to write a book to get the facts on wikipedia :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Antarchie (talk • contribs) 08:52, 19 March 2012‎
 * No problem. Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:21, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
 * According to this blog https://landedfamilies.blogspot.com/2019/02/364-bannerman-and-campbell-bannerman-of.html - which seems very well referenced - the house was sold in 1915 when James Murray Bannerman died. In which case it was not actually sold in 1894 (though may indeed have been put up for sale). Occupants before 1915 seem to have been tenants, as Bannerman is recorded as living elsewhere (he rented Bishopswood, Ross-on-Wye and Lwynn Onn, Wrexham). Sorry, I don't have time to check for acceptable references at the moment. Ioan_Dyfrig (talk) 15:06, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
 * And related to Henry Campbell-Bannerman. Needs a mention when a usable source can be found. KJP1 (talk) 09:22, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

Some images
Here are some images that might be useful:

Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:35, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Excellent - I've put two into the article on the basis of my own judgement as to which ones best inform the article (WP:BRD, etc.), but I'm more than happy to discuss it here. Ghmyrtle (talk) 21:27, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Some images of the Bannerman family memorial can be found at Talk:Ganarew. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:58, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
 * "The pattern can still be seen each autumn." Well, yes, I'm sure that's true. But my photo was taken on 17 March. So I'm not sure that it's WP:OR to realise, or to state, that it's not just in the Autumn. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:11, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Indeed. We could definitely do with finding a better source for the statements made about the planting - which at present are cited from a blog, which is not good.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 21:16, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

The county boundary
Looking at OS maps, it's obvious that the county boundary leaves the Wye a few hundred yards east of the house, passes very close to the house itself, and then returns to the river a few hundred yards to the west. Often this happens where there has been an old river course which the boundary follows - but that can't be true in this case, because the boundary rises across several contour lines above the river bank. This seems very odd. Does anyone know why the county boundary follows that line? Ghmyrtle (talk) 10:50, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, I never spotted that - how curious. That seems to be a little piece of Wales on the North side the river. The house is on the hillside above the river meadow, so I'm guessing that it might be connected with some kind of high-water flood level. But why, I wonder. It looks like the area immediately beneath the house was once a front garden, at least a lawn, which has been allowed to now return to pasture. (btw, I see that Google maps shows the property as "Ceritech audio" not Nimbus Records. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:53, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
 * The new showroom for Ceritech Audio is based in the small light industrial units, as the picture on their website shows: Martinevans123 (talk) 15:16, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
 * There is mention in the article of building a new road higher up the hill which enabled the estate to be extended. Possibly the county boundary followed the line of the old road rather than the river at that point.MidlandLinda (talk) 16:01, 14 July 2013 (UTC)