Talk:Xerox/Archives/2011

Buyout Info?
The "Buyout"- what exactly is it and when did it take place?

Random Question
Uh. Can someone tell me how do you call putting Xerox copies on the walls of buildings?


 * Answer: Flyposting. In the USA, it is also called "street spam".Sethnessatwikipedia (talk) 02:18, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Suggested updates

 * 1) "The Document Company" was recently dropped as a slogan.
 * 2) Although Xerox certainly does well with photocopiers, we do plenty with printers, too.  Although it is possible to use some of the high-volume Xerox printers--the DocuColor 6060 springs to mind--as copiers, they are mostly used as direct-from-computer printers.
 * 3) Xerox acquired the printer division of Tektronix in 1999.  This is mentioned in the Tektronix article, but not the Xerox article.  Most of the acquired  products are non-xerographic process printers.
 * 4) Xerox also develops and markets standalone software products, DocuShare being an example.

As a current employee of Xerox, I know enough to recuse myself from editing the article for a number of reasons. That said, I'd appreciate it if somebody more impartial incorporated the aforementioned changes. I fear that if I attempt to do it myself, I will spin it too much. I am making this request of my own will, and do not do so as an official representative of the Corporation. Any other good disclaimers you can think of, I'd probably like to apply those, too. Thank you! Ventura 23:16, 2004 Oct 8 (UTC)

ILB:

The information flow intensive business processes such as record management, customer communications, billing and training are the example field of the Xerox Global Service improving activity.
 * 1) The  company Logo is changed as well.
 * 2) Another Xerox software product seems to be important to mention: FlowPort
 * 3) Xerox also provides consulting services as Xerox Global Services, that drives companies to better business by applying of the process innovation.
 * 1) I would find it very appropriate if the entries for "DocuShare", "FlowPort", "Xerox Global Services" and "XGS" would be included as well


 * I am joining to the disclaimer above.


 * I've made some of these changes -- I have no connection whatsoever with Xerox, so this ought to make everybody happy! --Christofurio 20:38, Nov 9, 2004 (UTC)


 * The article suggested Xerox dropped "The Document Company" prior to aquiring Tektronix (according to Xerox Factbook in 2000). The corporate signature was phased out in 2004.  Xerox sold portion of stake in Fuji Xerox in 2001 - now owns 25%.  Adjusted article accordingly.  DarkHorseEurope 13:19, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Added Photo
Added the photo of Xerox paper. I'm sure someone can substitute it for something more interesting, but it's free from copyright.DarkHorseEurope 23:46, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Photo Addition Suggestion
I'm thinking of adding the (copywrited) Xerox-logo and the so called "capabilities line". I'll remove these logos as soon as I can get my hands on a nice Xerox-logo I can take a picture of. Zigibumbala 05 Jul 2005


 * THE XEROX PAGE IS A COMMERCIAL PRESENTATION !!


 * Agreed -- compare to the IBM article -- another high-profile company with a long and important history. I added rewrite tag because I think this article could use some serious overhauling.
 * Another agree. Why is the first subsection called "Diversity?" It's basically a plug for Xerox. I'm not going to erase it, but it seems somewhat inappropriate. - Pingveno 21:21, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Lack of references
I've seen "Copies in Seconds," and it is a fine technical history. In fact, I passed it on to my father, who worked at Xerox' Orchard Street factory, fresh out of the Navy in the late 1950s. However, this Wikipedia article really needs a list of books and monographs giving the business history of the company. Xerox rode the plain-paper copier revolution to fame and fortune, and lost big due to some poor managerial decisions. MWS 18:57, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Mistakes
I think the innovations and ideas formed at Xerox Parc and the subsequent rejection of them by management should have more emphasis. In the history of technology companies, I think that stands out as probably one of the biggest blunder ever. --66.171.76.140 17:22, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Xerox inkjet printers
Xerox made an ill-fated venture into inkjet printers by using engines made by Sharp, wrapping them in Xerox designed housings and replacing the Sharp name with Xerox everywhere in the firmware and software. As printers go, they were decent machines and pretty fast. The multifunction devices had a good scanner on them.

Then the problem started cropping up. Sharp's color printhead was a bad design. Eventually one out of the three colors would begin to lose nozzles, followed quickly by total failure of that color. (I had three Xerox injkets, one each with defective Cyan, Magenta and Yellow.)

Rather than do anything like working with Sharp to fix the printhead problem and issue a recall or refunds or discounts for an exchange of the bad printheads with an improved reliability design, Xerox chose to cut and run. The inkjet line was discontinued soon after the Windows 2000 drivers were released. Minimal functionality drivers were included with Windows XP.

There's another problem with these inkjets. Advertised as 1200 DPI, the Windows 2000 and XP drivers only support a maximum of 600 DPI printing.

Xerox could still be making good inkjet printers, if they'd chosen to take their lumps on the printhead problem instead of dropkicking the whole thing. (And acting rather snotty about it when I called tech support!) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.136.145.243 (talk) 08:27, 22 February 2007 (UTC).

There's no money in selling inkjets to home users, getting good at inkjets would be pointless if it only just about broke even.78.86.75.155 (talk) 00:58, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Usage in UK
I have removed the following text from the article:


 * However, in the United Kingdom, where the OED is based, the generic use of "xerox" as a term is uncommon. The terms "photocopy" and "photocopier" are normally used instead.

This claim is unsubstantiated. For instance, the OED does not label xerox as a U.S. term. In fact there are 58 Google Book hits for xeroxed/xeroxing and colour. Furthermore, the OED is not the only dictionary to list this term, so it is a deceptive counter-claim. 70.112.49.77 20:37, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Who cares if it's in the dictionary? Nobody is disputing that, but nobody in the UK actually uses "Xerox" in that way, it's either a "copy" or a "photocopy". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.86.75.155 (talk) 22:17, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

DOCS?
Being a Xerox employee for the last 3+ years, Im surprised that this article doesn't mention anything about DOCS (Document Outsourcing and Communication Services). This is a new direction that Xerox is heading... we are going from a copy/print company to a DOCS company. At my location (Toledo, Ohio) we handle document outsourcing for companies like Owens Corning, Prudential Financial, Guardian Life, Gartner, and many others. This was one of the reasons why they came out with the iGen3.

If the author doesnt mind, I would like to add something about DOCS - unless the author would like to do this him/her-self

ODNation (talk) 19:49, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia, its good to have you here. I'm glad your interested in this article. I helped add the new logo to it a couple of weeks ago.

Since your an employee of the company, there might be a conflict of interest, but its up to you to judge that. If you prefer, you could put information on this page, and another editor could copyedit and insert it into the article. Cheers.  MBisanz  talk 19:54, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Ok, I shall do that :) ODNation (talk) 20:49, 8 February 2008 (UTC)


 * See also owning an article. While it is up to you if there is a potential conflict of interest, if the material otherwise meets objective criteria for inclusion it can be included. There is no one "author" of an article because no one "owns" an article. You may still wish to avoid an appearance of a conflict of interest, but that's your decision. I'm not stating whether is belongs or not as I have no opinion at the moment. Failureofafriend (talk) 10:06, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Noun and derived verb in Russian
It is firmly embedded in modern Russian. There really isn't another word for photocopier in it, just 'kseroks'. Price tags in stores will actually generally say something like 'Kseroks Toshiba MODEL: 12345'. The slang verb is 'otkserit' (to xerox off). As far as I know, even Xerox's lawyers are powerless to fight this. Considering the prominence of Russian as a regional business language in the CIS and its heavy international use, should this be added?Aadieu (talk) 09:39, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

PRO XEROX
OMG HOW PRO XEROX IS THIS ARTICLE? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.243.253.104 (talk) 04:48, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
 * After glancing at the article, I assume you meant the "Environmental Record" section. It does seem unnecessarily promotional.  I've tagged it accordingly.  Powers T 14:09, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Name Derivation?
In psychology, we use the term Xerophobia to refer to people who have an irrational fear of dryness or things that are dry. Can anyone tell me if the root of Xerox is the same? Is there something about "dryness" that relates to a product, service, invention, etc. here? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.126.226.142 (talk • contribs)
 * Yes, please read the xerography article, or look that word up in the dictionary. =)  And please don't remove the templates from talk pages!  Powers T 19:52, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism or not?
Buckingham Palace too does not support, enable the Nazi (amnestie) movement. This statement was found in Xerox and it does not incorporate easily. Nazi is also a hint to vandalism. Is this the case, or not? --Eu-151 (talk) 14:37, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

Source of the word Internet?
"Soon Xerox's engineers worked out how to connect the individual sites together, using a system they called Inter Network Routing. This was quickly abbreviated to the first three syllables." -- This desperately needs some reference. I wouldn't be too surprised if Xerox was the source of the word Internet, but given other assumptions and mistakes in this article and no mention of Xerox on the Internet article, it seems more like some was drawing conclusions. There is also a difference I guess between whether the term was used internally at Xerox and if they were the source of more widespread use of the term. -- Suso (talk) 16:17, 28 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Concur with Suso's analysis. Whomever thinks Xerox invented the concept of internetworking is either very young or simply out of their depth when it comes to the history of technology. --Coolcaesar (talk) 08:11, 29 December 2011 (UTC)