Talk:Xisuthrus

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Unless there are objections, I will redirect this to Utnapishtim soon. It uses obsolete spellings (now universally Ziusudra, which is already a redirect) and non-Mesopotamian identifications ("Chronos"?), and at least part of it may well be a copyvio. (I am unable to verify this at the moment, but the source text seems to be Dundes, Alan (ed) (1988). The Flood Myth. Berkeley : University of California Press. ISBN 0520059735.)
 * I see I had a slight misunderstanding here: the source for this is of Greek derivation, hence the spelling. I'll add content here for now, but in the future it really ought to be merged. TCC (talk) (contribs) 01:51, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Ziusudra should have its own page, even if it is short, because the Epic of Ziusudra was written in Sumerian and is a different piece of literature than the Akkadian flood myths about Atrahasis and Utnapishtim. Also Ziusudra appears in the Sumerian King List, but Utnapishtim does not. The material on the Xisuthrus page should be on a new Ziusudra page. Xisuthrus should be redirected to Ziusudra, not to Utnapishtim. Greensburger 04:37, 30 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I disagree. Utnapishtim is plainly just Ziusudra rendered into Akkadian; the names mean the same thing. They're exactly the same character even if the name does not appear in this form in the Sumerian king list. I'd support retitling Utnapishtim to Ziusudra however, since the latter is the "original" and therefore I feel ought to be given primacy. I'm afraid that "Utnapishtim" is rather better known, though, so I have little hope of support for a move. TCC (talk) (contribs) 06:17, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

I agree that they are exactly the same character. If you retitle the Utnapishtim page to Ziusudra, I will be happy to add content that focuses on Ziusudra in the Sumerian king list in addition to the flood myth. Greensburger 18:10, 30 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I'll open a move discussion on Talk:Utnapishtim then. TCC (talk) (contribs) 05:08, 31 July 2006 (UTC)