Talk:Xplay

Major change with X-play
X-play got a major change, put it in the article —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.75.192.31 (talk) 03:12, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Article Length
I'm... pretty sure that this article is way longer than it really needs to be. CurtDogg

This is insainly long with 25 headings. JediMaster_35

The article could have a lot of the sections combined, I must admit. But I will leave that to the consent of more experienced Wikipedia editors Jon Fawkes 03:35, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes, you could combine most of the headings in the entire article into one or two sections, but the largest remaining section would be "Trivia", which I think Wikipedia has a policy against. Most of the information in this article just doesn't need to be there, but you can't just delete that all and leave the section so empty with nothing new to write in. Unless someone intends to re-write most of the article and believes he can do significantly better than the what's currently here, there's really no point in messing with it. Riotwraith (talk) 03:32, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Is this true?
Is The Dog Whisperer actually competing with x-play, or is this just an on going jokeSuperWiki5 22:57, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

This is currently unknown and needs a source citation. From my knowledge, it seems like just an ongoing joke, but there needs to be more speculation first Jon Fawkes 03:36, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

The "Morgan's not a gamer" Section
I just wanted to point out the fact that, it would have worked. ^_^ SuperWiki5 20:36, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

The section needs at least one citation or it should be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.64.53.50 (talk) 22:35, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Ending
The end of this article seems to stray from the regular guidelines of objectivity. mostly there seems to be an overall sense of "sympathy" towards Webb and Sessler about view mail, the messageboards, etc. This mostly appears at the end of the article but can be seen throughout. --SomeGuy1969 12:32, 04 October 2006 (UTC)

I completely agree... I was planning on fixing that up today, but I didn't get around to it. If nobody's done it by tomorrow, I'll try to fix it up.

Note: If you see anything I did wrong don't hesitate to fix it up, I'm new to Wikipedia but not to editing... --Kirbyrockz 8:43, 21 February 2007 

NPOV
I have reverted information in order to keep this article at a neutral point of view, but it looked like there weas some information that could be salvaged. The edit in question needs to be NPOV'd before it is added back in. -Frazzydee|&#9997; 20:38, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)


 * Not sure if there's a whole lot to be saved from that edit - it's just a bunch of bias. --Oreckel 22:46, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

I agree, there is WAY too much POV here. ~Crowstar~ 16:21, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Ratings
Dose anybody have any idea what the ratings are for this show are viewership or the demographics of its viewers? If so, I think that info would be good for the page.

Von Webb
It's spelled "Von Webb." In German, the W is pronounced like the English V. There's even a screenshot in the article that clearly shows it spelled "Von Webb." Please, don't change it back to Vebb. Elwood00 14:07, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

4 Edit Brackets In A Row
This is near the "Sensitive Sess" subsection, and I'm wondering if it is just clutter or if it should be there normally... and if someone more versed in the Wiki's inner workings could elaborate?

It may be a special wikipedia mark-up, but I don't see it on the mark-up thing below the edit box. It may be tag spamming. That section is gone now, so no further speculation is needed Jon Fawkes 03:44, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

"Skew lowbrow"
Okay, this phrase seems to have lived for years on this page, but I really have no idea what this was supposed to mean:

"'The humor on the show is inconsistent, but tends to skew lowbrow.'"

Would this suggest it takes lowbrow humour and ... dunno, warps it? Variations on it? Otherwise, I can't find a suitable definition of "skew" except "to look suspiciously upon", which suggests the opposite (avoid). I suggested the latter in an edit, but reverted it because reading the article suggested the humour really wasn't all that intellectual (highbrow).

I also found it silly that "lowbrow" linked to "highbrow"... looks like an ancient attempt to avoid a redirect. But linking a word to its antonym is just wrong. (The fact that Wikipedia's "lowbrow" is an art style rather than an antonym of "highbrow" is another matter entirely. I'll bring that up on the appropriate pages.)

Bottom line is, I'm probably making a mountain out of a molehill here, but there's only so much I can do to help Wikipedia here, having never actually seen an episode of this show. I want to fix it, I just don't know how. :) If someone could just rephrase this entirely (perhaps avoiding the "lowbrow" term altogether), it'd be solved once and for all. -- 64.26.156.49 20:25, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

--I think it means skew as in skew to the left or right in a statistical distribution. In other words, if you draw a line with lowbrow at one end and highbrow at the other end, more of the show's jokes tend to fall near the lowbrow end as opposed to distributing normally.

That being said, it might be POVish and worth removal on those grounds.

(sorry for not signing, I'm new to Wiki.)

I think skewing low-brow means skirting the edge of it, crossing a fine line between low-brow and high-brow. (though alot of their jokes are low-brow!)71.96.11.37 23:43, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

...Much to Webb's dismay
Is there a source for Morgan Webb's dismay at the show's lowbrow humor? Has she actually said that in public, or is this a reference to the writing, which frequently has her character embarrassed by Adam's jokes? Either way, can this be clarified? Elwood00 T 20:38, 16 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Well last time I checked they did their own writing but also used to be able to ware their own wardrobe. It is just an act they have to put on to differentiate them from the other game review show. Though it is in the theme of show at the moment. DyslexicDan 14:10, 28 February 2006 (UTC)


 * There is no source for this, no. At no time that I can discern has Webb ever said anything of the kind about the show. It's somewhat in character as far as her behavior on the show itself, but the wording makes it seem like the host herself disagrees with the presentation of the show, which does not appear to have any basis in fact.

History of the show's format (formerly "The show's format")
I have added another second describing the two major formats the show has used. The show’s format has been large part of show especially in the earlier years which this article unfortunately seems to consist little information about.

The two points I tried to cover were locations the show was filmed at and how it was filmed. There is plenty of room for these subjects to be expanded on. DyslexicDan 16:40, 28 February 2006 (UTC)


 * The show’s format section has exploded over the past few days with relevant information. Those who expanded this section need to be given cookies or something. DyslexicDan 15:23, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Anti-Christian/Judeo Credence?
Should it be mentioned that Sessler and Webb (as does Kevin Periera), seem to be quite hateful towards Christians/Jews. As of what I heard, many Jews seem to be outraged by their somewhat rash jokes. (though Sessler and Webb seem to target Christians the most) I have found many instances of Christian/Judeo bashing, but have found no jokes aimed at Buhdism, Islam, or any other religions. Should somebody address this topic?71.96.11.37 23:34, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

I would say not, since it's really not relevant to the article unless one wishes to use the article to further an agenda. The show rips on everything, yes, including Democrats, Islam, Buddhism, and just about anything it can find. The whole point of the show is that nothing is sacred, and they simply walk the walk.

Good point. I guess I haven't seen enough episodes to know what Adam and Morgan believe.

P.S. Agenda? This was just an observation of mine, for I never said that they actually are hateful towards Christians/Jews, I simply stated that it seems that way.71.96.11.37 15:36, 22 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I had never noticed anything... Do you have anyexamples you could point to? SteelyDave 15:44, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, here are a few: 1. On the review of "Zoo Tycoon" they took shots at Christianity/creationism, with Webb saying something like, "it is a asburd to think that man was created", and "creationism like psychology, is a pseudo-science". Also, they took a shot at Kirk Cameron (a notable Christian) for trying to teach creationism. -Saying that "creationism, like psychology, is a pseudo-science" is also a reference to Tom Cruise's comments about Brooke Shields. Psychology is NOT a pseud-science, so it could be said that Webb or Sessler were actually implying that creationism isn't wither. Get it? (Thirtysilver)

2. One episode (revolving around communism), they made insulting comments about Christians/Jews. (One of them being, "Christians can't play video games because they are "too evil" for them.) ---Communism is anti-Christian. This is actually a communist joke and not an anti-Christian joke. (Thirtysilver)

3. The infamous, "Passion of the Christ 2: Judgement Day"

4. One of the viewer mail had a Christian message (also asking when the Nintendo Revolution would come out). After reading it, Adam and Morgan pretended to be sad/shocked, then Adam answered the guy's question about the Revolution sarcastically, "hopefully before the rapture". --Adam was simply saying that he was looking forward to the release of Nintendo's new console and expressing the feeling, in sarcastic fashion, that its release was too long in coming. Even though this comment references an event mentioned in the Bible, it is actually not meant to have anything to do with religion. Another way to say what Adam said would be, "Hopefully before the world ends." (Thirtysilver

5. On the Christmas special, there were many instances.

This has nothing to do with my agenda, nor was I offended by the hosts. This is simply a harmless observation! I have seen them bash Scientology from time to time, and they have made one joke about Islam. I know that's just their opinions, but do they need to be so vocal? Are they fair to all beliefs? I'll let you decide. 71.96.11.37 16:28, 18 April 2006 (UTC) --They make jokes about many faiths so as not to seem biased toward any one faith in particular. I seriously doubt that the jokes you see on X-Play are meant to be taken as yardsticks by which to measure the hosts' religious faith. It's just a TV show. It's secular, and religion is not a part of the show's theme. (Thirtysilver)

Part of the shows point is to be comedic they dont hate Cristians or jews.

Trademarks?
Did they really trademark the announcer's voice?SteelyDave 15:45, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Is it true that the old announcer left because he did not like how X-Play is going?


 * Are you serious? I was wondering why he would leave.(65.115.123.226 18:17, 7 June 2006 (UTC))


 * I heard that something like he didnt like the approach of the show or something...65.115.123.226 21:31, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Ratty The Handpuppet
There is not really enough information for it to have its own article, so I propose that all that information get moved to the recurring characters section on this article. Amalas  =^_^=  21:12, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Done. If anyone finds other articles about recurring characters floating around, they should be merged too. I doubt any of them would warrant a seperate article. BryanG 01:26, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

List of X-Play characters
I've moved the gigantic list of recurring and not-so-recurring characters on the show to its own article to prevent reader fatigue. It also gave me an excuse to give the show its own category. ~ Hibana 01:51, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Criticisms
I'm certainly not against having a criticisms section in this article, but some references for them would be nice, especially since they were all added by one user. They may all be valid points, but I'm always concerned when articles have one of these sections without any source to back their points up - it starts to look more like personal opinion of the editors and less like an encyclopedia. BryanG(talk) 02:18, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

I'd just like to find a place where I can watch little .gif images of Adam Sessler and Morgan Webb burning in the pits of Hell for all eternity. That's not wrong, not at all. Valid complaints against both of them not knowing a good game from the holes in each other's heads, the 'humor' of the show barely rising above retarded, and what I swear to God in Heaven are game scores that have been sold to the highest bidder all over the place.. *sigh* techtv. damn techtv. PratzStrike 09:34, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Okay, so you think they should burn in hell, just because it's in their oppinion that a game is bad? From what I've heard, most of the critisims are that they think a game you like is bad. They're critics, that's what they do! When they say a game that I like is bad, I don't just run around whining about it. I just go "Meh. It's just their oppinion". Also, just because they say a game is bad, doesn't mean that you can't buy it, all they're doing is simply somewhat guiding people on their choices of games. Uber Cuber 01:45, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

It is not so much because of their opinion, but what x-play represents. It is the manifestation and representation of everything negative that has come from the growing popularity of video games, from something that the more "intellectual" or "geeky" would play to almost everyone. Now it is "cool" to play games and everyone has played games like Halo at least once. And because half of america is retarded with a retarded sense of humor and music (rap?), no doubt more of that is going to rub on gaming than before. X-play is something no self-respecting gamer would watch, as it really is crappy, horrible humor mixed in with game reviews (who the hell "watches" game reviews, I read up on games my self on the internet). It is clear that this show is meant to appeal to the newer generation of gamers, who mostly just play console and probably could not install a game on a computer let alone solve the problems that arise from computer maintenance and technical issues that arise from heavy computer gaming. Like the "convenience" of just putting a disc in a tray and playing, x-play is meant to be that "convenience" for people who would not know where to look on the internet about newer games coming out or about them. I shudder at the thought that there is an actual show dedicated to gaming or "gaming awards" stuff. I think a criticism section would be great. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.164.65.229 (talk • contribs).
 * Thats nice. You can't put a criticism section in just because you have a bone to pick. Any criticism placed in an article has to be verifiable and cannot represent a trivial viewpoint.--Crossmr 14:14, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Lawl, I cannot see how this show cannot have criticism among circles of gamers but I just gave my two cents I do not really care either way what you people do with this article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.164.65.229 (talk • contribs).
 * That's nice. If you don't care about the article then you should probably move along and find a new hobby.  Talk pages are for working to improve the article.  They aren't for discussing your general views on the topic. Johntex\talk 18:09, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

People! This is not a FORUM! Who cares if you hate the show! *sigh* Done ranting. I think criticism is a great thing, as long as it is verifiable and you don't put stuff like "The majority of peoples think this show sucks." Yes, feel free to go ahead- don't be POV though. ~Crowstar~ 16:18, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

There are places that ON Game news sites that have actively placed stories REAL STORIES about the absolute Failure of the show and the channel itself. hahaha 13:31, 17 October 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Angelocasio (talk • contribs)

Ummm... ok?
I am curious why this paragraph, ominously quoted by Morgan Webb, has been removed? I think it should have been polished instead of completely removed, as it has some accurate observations about the wide range of humor employed in the show. Also, I was wondering what you guys though of mentioning that the skit is done during the Point Blank review? Anyway. --Stux 23:48, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I think it's because they were kinda embarassed to have it mentioned.--Mreddy1

Individual Game Listings
what would be a good idea is have all the games listed and what they scored- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 11:31, August 13, 2006 (talk • contribs) 68.190.32.255
 * That's not really what wikipedia is about, u could find a fan site that lists that. THe sheer number of game reviews means that there would be way to many numbers here. I would have to say no.-Giant89 18:07, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

if you want a full list of game reveiws, go to g4tv.com. it's got every game they've ever reviewed. and Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a list. User:dino-amie 06:31 23 september 2006 (UTC)o

5/5 Games
Does anyone think that a list compiled of games to receive a 5/5 rating on X-play might added to the article?

i dont. Stublu 06:58, 24 August 2006 (UTC)o

It isn't necessary. This discussion is really similar to the one querying about "Individual game list". Jon Fawkes 03:38, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

5/5 games
does anyone have a list of 5/5 games? Stublu 07:03, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Like i said its at g4tv.com. now stop asking Wikipedia about reviews!!dino-amie 07:40, 24 September 2006

Concerning Ratings
As I write this, an annoymous user has added this address to the links:

http://www.iheartmorganwebb.com/?file=gameratings

Now while I am against having links from the wiki unless they serve a purpose and certainly not merely because a user has added it.

However it seems to cover the requirements we have asked for above. The site apparently uses X-Play Game Ratings and has a vast amount of games on it. You can search by rating, etc, etc.

So I am for leaving it, unless we get a better link to replace it with...

(Just visited, am an RC-Patroller really)

Thanks

Philipwhiuk 12:46, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

"Physical Abuse"

 * I've taken this section out of the page at least three times now. It presents the events show as being real, when they clearly are not.  In my view, this is a clear violation of Wikipedia standards. King Zeal 19:54, 6 October 2006 (UTC)


 * You are correct, the physical abuse seen on the show are scripted and does not hold any real value Highway 19:03, 14 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Not that it necessarily means the section should remain, but somewhere along the lines in the past week, it was rewritten so that it doesn't present the events as being real. As it's written now, I don't see anything wrong with it...although I definitely won't be fighting to keep it in.  --Onorem 16:02, 17 October 2006 (UTC)


 * The change in tone is definitely an improvement, but that just makes it redundant now. The show's abuse of interns is noted elsewhere, and Adam's self-abusive humor has its own section.


 * Also, while I could suppose that mentioning the faux-violence of the show is noteworthy, that's not the same as saying that the work environment is "unsafe". King Zeal 16:18, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

While I think that the things under the "Physical Abuse" section should still be there, I suggest merging the info from it into a different section. It really don't need its own section Jon Fawkes 03:41, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

TVRage.com Link
I added the TVRage link to the main page. The website has an actual episode guide that has been constructed better than the one on X-Play's official website. Not to mention they keep track of their info better, tracking guest starts, game reviews, and other material G4 won't print. If you take it down, then you better take down the links above it, because it offers more episode wise than any other the other sites you have posted. JohnQ.Public 10:17, 16 October 2006
 * The 1st link is to the official site of G4, the 2nd link is to the official book released by the show and the 3rd link has been discussed previous and noted that it offers game rating information to the vast number of games reviewed by the show. Highway 14:42, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * The 1st link, if you search their episode guide, has incomplete information from the first two years. G4 has done a poor job of keeping ANY of their episode guides in order and up-to-date.  Don't believe me, compare TVRage's to theirs.  2nd link is a listing on Amazon.com.  I'd give you credit if it were the book published online, but it's not.  And if you don't take it down, I'll report it for being an obvious ad.  The 3rd is an inaccurate and incomplete list, that's been haphazzardly copied from the original source that G4 got rid of because of its bugs, and pasted onto a Morgan Webb obsession site.  If this is the best you got, you might as well delete #2 and #3 now, and put TVRage back as a creditable source for an episode guide.  JohnQ.Public  14:49, 16 October 2006

X-PLAY

Celebrity impressions
This list is long and unencyclopedic. It doesn't really add anything to the article, and just serves to make a bunch of pointless links. The section should be reduced in size and just a couple of notable example should be given (i.e. if they've got an impression they've used more than others, etc)--Crossmr 06:16, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Aqua Man
Shouldn't aquaman be put under the hatred section? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 209.244.42.199 (talk) 19:11, 13 February 2007 (UTC).
 * Based on what? Where is the citation from a reliable source? That section is going to be heavily cleaned up unless some sources start being added to it.--Crossmr 23:24, 13 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Based on the fact that its been a long-running item on the show. Type xplay aquaman into google and you will get all the information anyone could ever want. The (useless) citation would be x-play 3/31/2006. If you are not familiar with the show, you should not be heavily cleaning up any section and it would be more helpful if you would work to get citations rather than removing valid information. 12.96.162.45 18:07, 15 February 2007 (UTC)


 * its not my job to cite your information. If you can provide a valid reliable source for the information then it can be included. WP:V places the burden on you for wanting the material included.--Crossmr 00:48, 16 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Your WP:V comment is out of line in that I gave you the citation (x-play 3/31/2006) and in that I have not made (or proposed) any changes. If you are unfamiliar with xplay, either go off and become familiar or go be an editor on something you are familiar with. There is no value in having articles edited by those who are ignorant of the subject. 12.96.162.45 20:21, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

X-Play the musical
I think we should have an article for X-Play the musical,and the person who wrote all the songs(If you go to Screwattack.com,scroll down to find Game Jew on X-Play:The Musical or something.)What do you guys think? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 151.200.178.232 (talk) 02:12, 21 February 2007 (UTC).
 * No. There is no evidence its notable outside the show, and from the lack of effort being made on the other X-Play sub-articles it looks like they're going to the chopping block as being unsourced and non-neutral.--Crossmr 15:08, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Reason to bring back classic
Since the Classic G4 was based on video games and G4 isn't basing their channel on that anymore, but now men or something, since X-Play is the highest rated show wouldn't it make sense to return more of the classic shows if this is getting the best ratings? koji toa of ice —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Koji toa of ice (talk • contribs).

I suppose it would, but this isn't a message board for chatting about such things. This is the discussion board for the X-Play Wikipedia page. And opinions such as that should not be a part of this page. While I do agree that it would be nice to see more of the old shows come back, this simply isn't the place to talk about it. MaximumMadnessStixon (talk) 21:18, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

SOMETHIGN EXTREMELY IMPORTANT MISSING IN HATRED SECTION!
I'm still having trouble getting over what was missed. If you were all true X-play fans like me, I would already see a mention of Aquaman in there. And a whole topic on Aquaman, including the golden mullet awars, and such. Sorry I can't do this, I'm only a minor editor. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Andokool12 (talk • contribs).

Speaking of this section, I found this:


 * Themselves: Though better explained before this was removed previously, they have given subtle clues (probably, again, the former explanation was better) that they hate what the station has become.

What was removed prevoiusly? This needs rephrasing. --Jedravent 17:52, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Street Fighter Reference?
In the intro, when Adam is fighting the demons (or somethin like that) he performs a flying kick, followed by another kick, and then a third (I'm assuming that it's the Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku or something similar). This is exactly like the intro fight scene in Street Fighter Alpha: Generations. Goutetsu does the exact same same thing to Gouki within the first 3 minutes of the fight. ChromeWulf ZX (talk) 01:50, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Not to be rude but is that really important? I mean, it's a videogame show so they're going to use videogame related things. Unless you think it's amazing that a Japanese game was referenced, in that case, who cares?CN Guy (talk) 16:01, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Crisis Core a 2?
Ok honestly X-play had already a hurt reputation but giving a game like crisis core a 2 out of 5 for not being translated from japanese to enligh perfectly is like a nail in the coffen. The only reason G4 hasen't pulled the plug on this show is because the ratings this show brings in keeps G4 afloat. If they made another review show and scratched this one I can bet that it will get 2 times as many more ratings then X-play and if they add in some actualy funny humor then it might be the biggest video game show on television. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.185.41.21 (talk) 21:38, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

This is not a page to discuss why are why didn't the game get good ratings... for that matter someone could say, 'Aquaman was the best game ever! why would they give it a 0 out of 5?'... BTW, Crisis Core 2 sucked. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.78.214.253 (talk) 22:03, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

X Play: The Online Game
I removed the link to it as it is now a dead link that is no longer on G4TV.com. You're welcome to put one on if a new link is established, but for the time being the game is no longer on G4TV.com. - Crazyconan (talk) 21:43, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

X-Play
I have not seen any episodes that bash Christians/Jews in X-Play. If somebody would give me an episode #. than I may check it out for my self!- Thank You —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.99.103.197 (talk) 15:55, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Is this article going to mention the show’s return?
I am watching it right now as I speak because apparently G4 made a return and it’s listed on my YouTube TV channel guide. I checked and apparently the new G4 network launched back in November of 2021. I just thought I should bring this to everyone’s attention. 137.25.129.153 (talk) 07:24, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Racism Controversy
It's been almost a year since the controversy over racist jokes and skits in past X-Play episodes happened, and there isn't really any mention of it on the page. After some Google searching, I found one article that comprehensively goes over the controversy, though unfortunately it's the only article I could find with a neutral tone of voice. Not sure if this is enough to permit a mention on the controversy on the article or not, seeing as how said controversy prompted a good amount of talk about the show's relationship with racist and xenophobic attitudes among large portions of the gaming community.

https://www.gamerbraves.com/netizens-are-digging-up-old-x-play-reviews-and-realizing-theyre-pretty-racist/ Game4brains (talk) 03:39, 18 December 2023 (UTC)