Talk:Yahoo! Groups

What the hell is going on here?
Should this be "Yahoo Groups" instead of "Yahoogroups"? I'm not sure. -- Mattworld 21:21, 28 Sep 2003 (UTC)

I moved it already andy 21:43, 28 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Number of Users? Number of Groups? Number of Emails sent?
Is there data on the number of Yahoo! Groups users? How about the total number of (active) groups? Or email digests mailed out? Ateman 14:54, 6 July 2007 (UTC)ateman
 * I finally found a reference with some numbers about the # of YG members and the # of YGs, and entered it into the article. Thanks for the idea.
 * I haven't seen (yet) any numbers of emails (digests) sent, or the total number of Messages on Group pages. Active Groups? - what is your definition of an "active" Group? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ottawahitech (talk • contribs) 21:40, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Merge?
There has been suggestion that too many of Yahoo!'s services have their own pages. This is a borderline case, so please discuss at Talk:Yahoo!. - IMSoP 15:36, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Photos in large?
Does anyone know the trick to view the photos in the large resolution? TIA.--Hhielscher 11:03, 24 September 2005 (UTC)


 * I know it helps if you uploaded them... --Jason McHuff 05:37, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

Seeking feedback on Google Groups article
Hello. I wrote an article about a related topic, Google Groups. As a new Wikipedia writer, I would appreciate any feedback on my article. Please help me by posting your feedback at the Article Feedback Desk. If you wrote an article and are seeking feedback on it, please post your article at the Article Feedback Desk as well. If you could suggest better ways for me to seek feedback on my article, do leave a note at my talk page. --J.L.W.S. The Special One 12:52, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
 * The "criticism" contains weasel words. Criticism is always in danger to be POV (WP:NPOV), or even personal opinion. The article may improve from a technical feature list, like the one within this article. I do not know Google groups, but it makes a good impression (informative). Akidd dublin•tl•ctr-l 16:55, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Feature list
I wrote the feature list, Today i have put it into better style. Some data is now displayed double (twice), but i do not believe this really bugs people. Probably some people seek "float text", others (like me) seek a technical feature list. I have added the explanation about the registration process. Akidd dublin•tl•ctr-l 16:58, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

GROU.PS
Bogus link? Why?


 * Among other things, external links don't belong in the See also section. --ozzmosis 09:08, 27 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the explanation; I created the GROU.PS page in Wikipedia and now add it to See also section of this page.


 * Reference to this little-used site seems to just be here to promote it. It's got an Alexa rating over well over 100,000 - so it's clearly not a often-used site.  --Oscarthecat[[Image:Flag of the United Kingdom.svg|25px|]] 21:37, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Are there any alternatives to google/yahoo groups?
There is lots of internet-forum software about - but do any have the email-to-forum facility that 'yahoo groups' has?Jonathan3 15:22, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Good question - does anyone know? I read Windows Live Groups and it says that it can be set up to email Group content, but it does not say if a member could email content into the Group. Ottawahitech (talk) 18:27, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

History
Doug, Wikipedia has a policy of no original research that some people sometimes go overboard on. I know what you wrote is correct because I was there with you back then, but you should back up everything with sources and/or citations. Stev0 22:51, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia also has a policy that you can not write an (advert) article about a product of your employer. And Yahoo! does not allow to superimpose to represent Yahoo! (see their terms and conditions). The history section is not really WP:OR, a statement about Yahoo! has added new feature recently absolutely belongs into the article. Don't know about how to handle insider knowledge (how to link sources/citations). Verify Non_Disclosure_Agreement... User:Yy-bo 13:10, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Yahoo! Photos
this article needs improvement; it is not good like it is right now. User:Yy-bo 13:12, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Yahoo Groups sucks, They still have all the adult groups but have screwed up so many they have lost a great number of people to other sites. They really suck and they killed Egroups wich was one of the best.

Template
Perhaps a template could be created for Yahoo group links?

Spring 2006?
The article says "As of Spring 2006, Yahoo! has discontinued the chat feature in Yahoo! Groups."

Spring 2006? This is too vague. It could refer to February, March, April, May, September, October, or November. --Kprateek88 ( Talk |  Contribs ) 18:13, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Best of India
Why a country-specific section for only one (admittedly very populous) country? Also, there's no date mentioned there. Winners were announced when? Is this section really just self-promotion by Yahoo! to get people to click through to their promo site? 63.147.59.14 (talk) 16:54, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Message Search fixed!
A Feb 22, 2010 posting on the YG Blog says that Message Search will soon be working on all Yahoo Groups. We will have to wait and see if this is so, since these types of announcements have resulted in disappointment in the past. Ottawahitech (talk) 00:40, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
 * There is a Help item dated Feb 12, 2010, on the Yahoo site: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/issues/ki-30.html claiming the Search function is still broken Ottawahitech (talk) 19:15, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Message Search is still broken, sigh... Ottawahitech (talk) 00:04, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Social Network Upgrade
Someone posted the following in the article using the heading above: On March 19, 2010 Techcrunch reported a new synchronization tool that allows the group administrators on Yahoo Groups to boost their email lists via social networking features such as profiles, friendship, avatars, chat, location based services and collaboration. The tool turns the lists on Yahoo Groups into full featured micro social networks.

I reverted this change, but would like to find out why his person thought to include it as an upgrade to Yahoo Groups? Ottawahitech (talk) 23:45, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * In light of TechCrunch I wonder if techcruch can be considered a verfiable source for any Wikipedia content. Any views? Ottawahitech (talk) 14:50, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Wiki article? Reads more like infomercial or prospectus!
I was quite shocked at the presentation on Yahoo! groups. For the most part it reads more like a prospectus soliciting stockholders for the company or an infomercial for attracting members than an informational article such as I've come to expect from Wikipedia. It seems to me that the article should include some specifics on how a Yahoo group (which can be run by one person entirely according to whim) differs from a properly structured forum with conscientious moderators, at the very least.

A few quotes from Yahoo! pages on privacy and security policies might have been included, and perhaps contrasted with those of forums whose underlying structure is not based on the collection of information about members.

Equisetum (talk) 18:56, 5 May 2010 (UTC)Molly Lou

["Yahoo, one of an imaginary race of brutes having the form of men in Gulliver's Travels" ... MW unabridged] (I trust quoting a definition is legal here, it seems to be something of a gray area--)


 * Molly Lou:
 * This article is no different than others on Wikipedia. If you don't like what you see why don't you change it? Ottawahitech (talk) 17:41, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

How many Yahoo Groups are there?
Looks like even Yahoo itself does not know: - on their advertizing blog http://www.yadvertisingblog.com/blog/2010/09/03/look-into-the-new-yahoo-groups/ there is an entry signed by "the team" that says YG has 9 million Groups, this in contrast to 10 million announced recently at the Yahoo "Product Runway" event (see article) Ottawahitech (talk) 15:45, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

When was YG Advanced Message Search introduced?
I found this reference to Enhanced Message Search at http://groups.yahoo.com/local/news.html It has some great info regarding Advanced Message Search -
 * Date. You can add a specific point on the calendar and have a search performed before or after that time. Or, search a date range.
 * Author. Include the name of the sender and all messages from that name will be returned. You can also exclude a specific sender name from the search.
 * Subject. Add any words from a subject line and it will be returned. You can also exclude specific words from the subject line too.
 * Message Body. Add any words from the body of a message and the relevant messages will be returned to you in your search results. Again here you can also exclude specific words from your search.

Problem is it is not dated, so I am not sure where to insert this info into the article. Anyone?

Major layoffs in Yahoo Groups
The news does not usually talk about Yahoo Groups so it is always a struggle trying to find reliable references. However, it seems something did get leaked out recently:

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Yahoo said to be rolling out layoffs

Multiple media outlets reported earlier this month that Yahoo was on the verge of major layoffs, perhaps as high as 20 percent (but more likely 10 percent) of the struggling technology company. On Tuesday, TechCrunch reported that tipsters were contacting them to say the layoffs had begun. The company's Yahoo Groups and Flickr divisions were named specifically.

Read more: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13577_3-20024161-36.html#ixzz17L7pPLW5

Should this be added to the article and if so, where? Ottawahitech (talk) 13:59, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Spam proliferation
Groups where the moderator is absent for whatever reason begin to sprout spam like kudzu. Other members can report this, but the procedure is involved and doesn't necessarily guarantee that the spammers will be banned. Presumably it's not possible for Yahoo! to police the spam on every group even f they wanted to, which presumably they don't. As a group user myself I feel this is a serious issue that needs to be at least mentioned in the article. Lee M (talk) 02:26, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi Lee M, nice to see someone else here - it gets lonely here most of the time. Do you have any citations we could use to add the spam issue to the article? Ottawahitech (talk) 15:06, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

100 MB Group Files Limit
The only documentation I can find on this is Yahoo! Groups employee Gordon commenting here:

http://suggestions.yahoo.com/detail/?prop=groups&fid=90373

Can anyone find something more official? Ottawahitech (talk) 15:10, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

alexa rank
I have checked the claim that Yahoo Groups is no. 4 on Alexa (as it is listed here) and that is false. Yahoo.com is #4 and its subdomain for groups has yet to be rated. Unless someone disagrees with this, I will consider removing it. --Turn685 (talk) 11:33, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Yahoo! Groups Neo
Yahoo! Groups have been going through (another undocumented) transformation codenamed "neo" for the last three weeks. The press, as usual, has not caught on, or is too busy talking about Marissa Mayer's latest glamour endeavor, so there is nothing that can be added to Wikipedia. The only public area where one can see the furor is: on X-rated (google: "Welcome to Yahoo! Group’s feedback forum" "Are you out of your Minds?") or distributed in many questions on Yahoo! Answers and a few public Yahoo! Groups. XOttawahitech (talk) 15:14, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Dead?
I know officially they're not shutting it down, but it seems like they've killed it. History only to 2012? Though I imagine this'll be awkward if they insist it's merely an 'update'. RS don't care/notice. 92.15.55.158 (talk) 14:43, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Can someone elaborate: "History only to 2012"? Is this documented somewhere (even if not thru a wp:RS?) Thanks in advance, XOttawahitech (talk) 14:16, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
 * It's not true. I can still access the history on the group I'm a moderator for all the way back to 2004. -MarkKB (talk) 12:00, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Mainstream starting to catch on?
Finally weeks after Yahoo! has started trying to push yet another undocumented transformation on Groups, articles are starting to show up. Here what I googled today:
 * http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/09/03/yahoo_groups_neo_design_upsets_users/

I don't have the time to include info in the article. Can anyone help please? XOttawahitech (talk) 14:39, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
 * By the way, since google news seems tardy in showing up results for "Yahoo Groups" here is The Register's Yahoo Groups page:
 * http://www.theregister.co.uk/Tag/yahoo%20groups XOttawahitech (talk) 14:49, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Another news source that has bubbled up through Google, but I don't know if it is a wp:Reliable Source is http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/357621 where the author discusses the effect neo is having on Freecycle Yahoo! Groups. XOttawahitech (talk) 14:58, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Problem to register new members with no Yahoo account
Here is the current wiki text. "Moderators of new Groups started on April 9, 2012 and thereafter, can no longer add members to the Group. Members must initiate joining themselves" But I am a moderator of my family-group since 1999 (when it belonged to the famous e-group) and now it seems that other e-mail address than an Yahoo account can't register anymore. This information is based on the experience of one person with a Gmail account. The weblink "Register with Facebook or Google" only works to pick-up some personal data, but apparently did not allowed her to join my family-group. Even the invitation process don't allows other than Yahoo accounts. Two years ago it was not like that. Is it a new Yahoo policy ? --Millot (talk) 03:29, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Definitely seems dead.
For what it's worth (I know personal account can't go in article) yahoo groups is essentially over as far as I can work out. Of the ~85 groups that I was a member of before 'neo', only 1 remains in existence....as a redirect to a tumblr, the person running it having abandoned yahoo groups' unusability. All the other groups appear to have disappeared. As was previously mentioned, RSs seem not to care...which leaves wiki with a familiar problem...out of date info because changes don't have sources. 92.15.59.20 (talk) 15:17, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Your personal view is certainly not my experience, all the groups I belong to are still very active and Neo largely works. Some people seem to be blowing the issue out of all proportion, it is most certainly not 'dead'. Dsergeant (talk) 16:48, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
 * If you can find any secondary sources to verify that you'd be right, if not then it's original research. --Lumia930uploader (talk) 14:05, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

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Yahoo groups vs usenet
Was yahoo groups ever cross-connected with usenet newsgroups? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 45.74.108.212 (talk) 22:37, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

Article subject
This article concerns Yahoo! Groups, not merely the email service operated by Yahoo!

It is entirely possible to refer to the groups functionality as being wholly or partially inactive or closed. That Yahoo still offers email addresses should not impact us keeping this article up to date. CapnZapp (talk) 08:10, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

Untitled
will closing and shutdown within weeks  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Webshark (talk • contribs) 18:38, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Yes, these public groups will be made private in preparation for the social-media clampdown by liberals and leftists ahead of the 2020 US general election in an effort to stifle the free flow of information and debate in what once was a free and open society. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 45.74.108.69 (talk) 12:21, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Archives
I note the autoarchiving functionality seems to be entirely broken. The only archiving ClueBot managed to achieve is at Talk:Yahoo!_Groups/Archives/2015. I will re-integrate these messages onto the page, and we can then assess whether talk page volumes are such that autoarchiving is even necessary. If so, I suggest we use the standard tools and formats, rather than archiving by year. CapnZapp (talk) 08:15, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ Also spurious comments given its own talk page section CapnZapp (talk) 08:18, 13 January 2020 (UTC)