Talk:Yahoo! Mail/Archive 1

E-mail war
"An e-mail war between Yahoo!, Microsoft, and Google" How is Microsoft into this war ? Any references ? Jay 12:11, 23 Jun 2004 (UTC)


 * Several websites have been reporting that Hotmail has already given free 25 MB quota upgrades to some of its free users:    -- Vesta 13:10, 23 Jun 2004 (UTC)


 * Has any hotmail user moved upto 25MB ? Or any official statement by Microsoft or Hotmail that says there is an upgrade ? I think the contents of the articles are just the views of some authors, and maybe there's nothing official thats happening. Jay 13:32, 23 Jun 2004 (UTC)


 * That is a good point.. I'll reword the sentence in the article in a minute. See if those changes are somewhat more accurate. :)  -- Vesta 16:46, 23 Jun 2004 (UTC)


 * UPDATE: Microsoft confirmed that the quota is going up (250 MB) in the fall. It's listed directly on Hotmail.com.  -- Vesta 03:56, 24 Jun 2004 (UTC)


 * Here's a link The free Hotmail account has a 250mb quota

Mocha eval expression filters
Is the "mocha eval expression" filter thing true (anymore)? I just tried it and no words were changed and no underscores were added.

Is this too POV?
I was about to add this to the page, but feel it may be a little too POV:

When Yahoo increased their quota to 100mb, they also removed a couple of featurs that many users found useful:


 * Some older accounts had free POP3 access; this access was removed when the upgrade happened.


 * It used to be possible to write messages in raw HTML by clicking on a checkbox marked "this mail is in HTML". After the upgrade, Internet Explorer is the only browser that allows people to write non-ASCII email messages, and even that no longer allows direct editing of HTML in emails.

Samboy 22:06, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Merge?
There has been suggestion that too many of Yahoo!'s services have their own pages. This is a borderline case, so please discuss at Talk:Yahoo!. - IMSoP 15:36, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)

History???
Is it really necessary to have a seperate heading 'History'? Anyway there's very little about the history of yahoo mail in this page. Jam2k 17:10, Oct 20, 2004 (UTC)


 * Maybe the intention was that once the article was expanded a bit, there would be plenty to say about its history. After all, there's very little about anything here at the moment. But please, feel free to expand, refactor, and generally improve the article in whatever way you think is appropriate - be bold! - IMSoP 17:43, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Number of registered email accounts
Is there any documentation about the number of registered email aaccoutns?

Can anyone update the login page screenshot?
Can anyone update the login page screenshot? Current one shows that Yahoo! Mail gives 250 MB to its users. Capacity of free account is now 1 GB. 85.99.152.213 22:58, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

Free POP3 Access
I get free POP3 access. My account is a yahoo.com.au email account. So the article is WRONG in what it says about free accounts. Dankru 05:41, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

International website do not follow the same strategy as yahoo.com accounts. I had a yahoo.fr email address and in order to get pop for free I had to subscribe to some yahoo-related or Yahoo-partners newsletters. That was about 3 years ago. Guillaumeb

new anti spam action
I just saw while sending an email I had to enter a confirmation code. Is this new? And should it be added? Matt &quot;AgentA&quot; 03:25, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Cleanup
I added the cleanup tag. The history section is written in the form of a personal story. I'm sorry that I don't have the time to rewrite it myself, but hopefully this tag will at least draw attention to it. kmccoy (talk) 10:00, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I will concur with the above user and add that this article really needs to updated to reflect previous "premium" e-mail services from Yahoo!.  Having used Yahoo mail since 2000 and subscribing to its premium services a year later, I recall a time when yahoo had about two-three additional plans of varying capacities, like 25MB, 50MB, and 100MB.  I will have to review my account information but I think I purchased the 25MB plan a few months before the "one-size-fits-all" 2GB plan.  Hopefully someone with a better memory or reputable source can add/elaborate on this.--Kenn Caesius 21:22, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

The comparison with Gmail is 95% biased. Yahoo Mail lacks lots of features that Gmail has. And Gmail uses AJAX while Yahoo still not. Yahoo Mail certainly is not the best webmailer. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 05:46, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Deleting the comparison unless someone can provide sources for the statistic that "the majority of Internet users still consider Yahoo Mail to be the premier webmail service"--Darkhunger 02:12, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

AOL competitor to Yahoo! Mail?
"Yahoo!'s major competitors include Gmail, AIM Mail, AOL, and Hotmail."

AIM Mail, Gmail and Hotmail are competitors to Yahoo! Mail, but is AOL a competitor? AIM Mail is provided by AOL, I understand.

Also, it shouldn't be "Yahoo!'s major competiors". It should be "Yahoo! Mail's major competitors".

If no one corrects this, I will do so. Please discuss here.

--J.L.W.S. The Special One 05:16, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I think AOL is definitely one of Yahoo! Mail's major competitors. So many people use AOL.  Oh yeah, you can go ahead and change "Yahoo!'s major competiors" to "Yahoo! Mail's major competitors". &mdash;M e ts501 talk 01:35, 2 June 2006 (UTC)


 * OK, I will change it to "Yahoo! Mail's major competitors". However, AOL is not a webmail service. AIM Mail is. AOL may compete with Yahoo!, but not Yahoo! Mail. Do you see the difference?
 * In addition, I have created WikiProject_Yahoo! to encourage users to add the exclamation mark to Yahoo! in Yahoo!-related articles where neccesary. In the Yahoo! Mail article, there are 3 instances of the exclamation mark being omitted. I will add them. Please contribute to the WikiProject. Thanks. --J.L.W.S. The Special One 02:26, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Prepended
The article says:


 * Sending a test email from a non-Yahoo! Mail account to a Yahoo! Mail account with the words "Mocha", "eval", "Javascript," and "expression" in a sentence resulted in the Yahoo! Mail filters prepending an "_" (underscore) to those words, resulting in "_Mocha", "_eval", "_Javascript" and "_expression". This prepending obviously removes the threat of the words acting as commands via the program's HTML function by rendering them as non-commands or unrecognizable commands.


 * As of 2006-06-09, only the terms "expression" and "javascript" were prepended with an underscore ("_").

I tried sending email to a Yahoo mail account and the words expression weren't changed in any way.

Maybe i'm not testing it the right way, so i'll let the experts change it. --Amir E. Aharoni 07:14, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Unicode support (or lack thereof)
Does Yahoo Mail support Unicode? From my experience, no. I suppose it should be mentioned in this article. Of all people in the world, the majority can't stick with the so-called 'English' characters. Moreover, Yahoo doesn't even support extended ASCII charsets. Jancikotuc 14:29, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

comment for updating and NPOV check
Citing the latest edits of an anonymous user, I am certain that either the article is out of date or in need of NPOV check. As a non-BETA Plus user of Yahoo’s e-mail services, implementation of unlimited storage for e-mail is most likely not going to happen this month and so the article should mention this delay. Additionally, the claims in recent edits seem non-npov and even incorrect: recent edits declare that yahoo! e-mail offers the most in storage but links to other articles such as gmail and Windows live clearly contradict this article.--Kevin586 18:08, 30 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I did some rewording and updating on Mail Beta and added relevant sections. While at it, I forgot to uncheck the "minor correction" checkbox. As far as I know, the unlimited (meterless) storage has been deployed for quite some time now. -Mardus 08:12, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Limits
They WILL limit how much storage you can use. The main thing that has changed is that the limits are now hidden -- there is now no way to find out how much you will be allowed to use, before they toss you out on your ear -- just like Netflix and cable and every other marketing department that thinks it is good to pretend to sell a fantasy.

"What exactly does unlimited storage mean? Unlimited storage gives normal email account users like yourself an opportunity to not have to worry about hitting a storage limit." 

Actually, what this does is exactly the opposite. Before, we knew how much was OK to use. Now we do not. -69.87.199.202 14:14, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Even weirder than pretending we get unlimited storage, they seem to have taken away from us any way to check on the total amount of storage that we ARE currently using. So, none of us will know how much storage we are using -- and no one will actually know whether yahoo lets users store more or less email than other services! (If you know how to find out the total mail storage being used in a yahoo mail account, please tell the rest of us.)-69.87.200.181 20:56, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Since Yahoo! Mail adopted "unlimited" storage, I've noticed my paid account gets suspended once a week on average, blocking any mail sent to the address. I suspect it occurs because I've surpassed some limit on message storage, but I have no way of knowing exactly when it will occur, thanks to the removal of the storage indicator. Having a limit on unlimited storage that customers don't know about is false advertising; the main article should mention this issue.

>>>I would certainly discourage anyone from editing the article to accuse Yahoo of "false advertising." It is unlikely that the editor who wrote that would have any idea what the legal standard for false advertising is. (Hint: the Yahoo claim is almost certainly not false advertising.) In any event, it would clearly violate the NPOV mission of wikipedia.

--69.150.163.1 18:06, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
 * While all of your information may certainly be correct, we need reliable sources to also claim this so that your work is not considered original research. Thanks. — M ETS 501 (talk) 19:28, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:LiamRun.png
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BetacommandBot 16:58, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Yahoo Mail out of beta?
It might be original research but I think Yahoo! mail is out of beta now. --Kushalt 19:42, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
 * See the yahoo mail blog entry Red 23:00, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Yahoo! Power User
Looks like a new feature; should it be mentioned on the wikipedia page? Check out the details on Power User Srcrowl 04:15, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Unlimited lies
Verizon Busted For 'Unlimited' Marketing Settles for a million dollars with NY Attorney General 

"For four years now, we've been discussing how Verizon Wireless's EV-DO broadband service was advertised as "unlimited," but featured an invisible download cap... Verizon would be more forthcoming about the limited nature of their unlimited service.

According to Cuomo's office, their probe revealed that Verizon Wireless terminated the accounts of over 13,000 consumers for "excessive" use between 2004 and 2007. Usage restrictions were not clearly posted, says Cuomo's office, and customers found their accounts terminated with little available recourse.

"When consumers are promised an ‘unlimited’ service, they do not expect the promise to be broken by hidden limitations," said Attorney General Andrew Cuomo. "Consumers must be treated fairly and honestly. Delivering a product is simply not enough – the promises must be delivered as well."

Unlimited is always a lie. -69.87.204.97 21:44, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

In development?
The tag says it's in development, if it is, then how come I'm using it right now? TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 22:08, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Inconsistency
There's inconsistency between the hotmail and the yahoo mail articles. The Yahoo mail article states that "it is the most used e-mail provider on the Internet, serving over 260 million users." However, the hotmail article states "It has over 280 million users worldwide". How come 260 is more than 280? Yeah, I know. Different sources claiming different things. But such inconsistency can't be allowed.--Baka toroi (talk) 18:20, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

No inconsistency I think. Hotmail claims more users, but Yahoo Mail is more used. i.e. traffic statistics and estimates show that Yahoo Mail gets more visits and activity, even if it may have less accounts. Hence the words "most used" rather than "biggest" in the article. --Golf fan (talk) 15:31, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Yahoo's continuous policy changes; illegal?
On the Yahoo email sign-on screen, the following sentence is written: 'We have updated our privacy policy. Please click here to see the changes.' This statement has been there for a few months now. This was most likely intended for people to read after the initial Yahoo policy change, but now, with it left there, Yahoo can continue to make changes to their policy and people will be unaware of this. This is misleading. It would be better if they can add a date to this sentence to state when the last update to that policy was. At the moment, without a date, Yahoo has an easy way of continuously amending their policy without its members be any wiser of it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Elboertjie (talk • contribs) 09:39, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

POP3 and forwarding free?
The reason I abandoned yahoo for gmail was the requirement to pay for email forwarding, but now forwarding and POP3 options seem to exist for free. The article in no way reflects this, only mentioning forwarding twice and both times in relation to yahoo mail plus and cost. -NeF (talk) 13:20, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

zimbra desktop
Zimbra desktop edition supports free yahoo users as far as beta 3 goes [http://wiki.zimbra.com/index.php?title=Zimbra_Desktop#Accounts_Setup ] Atomic1fire (talk) 23:05, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Unlimited / infinite storage?
No one ever can, or ever will offer unlimited storage. So, anyone who claims to do so is hiding the actual limits. Which is bad, and confusing for everyone. So, the actual limits should be documented in the article, when available.-69.87.194.251 22:53, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Someone insisted on changing the article back so that it repeats the Yahoo marketing lies, as truth. (Without bothering to discuss the matter here.) Nothing is unlimited. If you believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy, just go store 1000GB on your Yahoo mail account -- and then come back and tell us all how easy it was!-69.87.204.46 12:49, 29 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Your personal views on whether or not email storage can be unlimited are irrelevant. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia of facts, not opinion. Yahoo has stated that they will be offering unlimited storage, so that is what will be written. Yes it is clear they cannot supply unlimited storage as they only have so many servers but it must certainly be more than 2GB. Until the unlimited storage is available and someone is around to test the limits, speculation will not deliver a reliable Wikipedia article. --A Cornish Pasty 14:44, 29 March 2007 (UTC)


 * You say "Wikipedia is an encyclopedia of facts". Then you admit that the current unqualified statement in the article, "Starting in May, 2007, Yahoo! will start to give all users ... an unlimited amount of email storage" is not, and cannot be true.  I hope that you also go to every other article and make sure that they report all absurd commercial claims by the subjects similarly without any qualifications.  (The current article does not report the facts.  It reports the marketing lies as though they were true.)  There is nothing speculative about the fact that they will NOT be providing unlimited storage -- since it is impossible to do so.  The only thing that would be speculative would be to try to guess what the actual limits will be.-69.87.200.81 22:59, 7 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Again, completely irrelevant. The idea that storage can never be "unlimited" is your own personal opinion, and Wikipedia is not an outlet for your opinion. --A Cornish Pasty 17:43, 8 April 2007 (UTC)


 * This is insane! That they cannot offer unlimited storage is a fact, not a personal opinion! --89.242.72.253 21:26, 9 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Guys, maybe you can read through this article: http://news.com.com/2100-1038_3-6171111.html

So, I see that the Hive Mind is still sanctioning absurd marketing lies in the article claiming "unlimited storage"... It will be very amusing to watch how long this lasts! Still waiting for that first field report of success at storing 1000GB. Of course, that would be a LONG way from unlimited... Next we could try, say, 1,000,000GB...  (I hope companies that want to sell Perpetual Motion also take advantage of this golden opportunity to use WP to back up their marketing departments.  Live Forever?  No-diet weight loss?  Bring it all on!)-69.87.200.185 11:34, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Unlimited does NOT mean "infinite". Unlimited simply means they will have enough for everyone's needs, so they will not have to limit what anyone uses. Of course there are actual limits, and if those limits are reached then they will have to reconsider their policy of unlimited e-mail. But as long as they can supply all accounts with enough space to store what their users want to store, they can call it unlimited. Given how fast they are expanding their servers, this is entirely possible. -(someone wrote sometime)

Nope. "Unlimited" means "no limits". It means, take as much as you want. Then take some more. And you can be sure, someone will want to take more than they will want to give... Here it is, almost the end of May, and I am very surprised not be have heard of this miracle coming to pass -- I hope it comes with an anti-gravity machine!-69.87.203.220 19:42, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

If you go to a buffet with unlimited servings, does that mean they have an unlimited supply of food? Or if you rent a car with unlimited mileage (i.e., no mileage surcharge) does that mean it will run indefinitely? Unlimited means they will not limit what anyone uses, which they won't.

Why does the article say that Yahoo! Mail has unlimited storage? I use Yahoo! Mail beta and I don't have unlimited storage yet. Also here is a website that you might want to add to the article. Unlimited Storage! --Chetblong 02:27, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

For the life of me, I can't remember where, but I know I read somewhere that Yahoo said they would provide unlimited storage, but anyone found to be using Yahoo Mail to store lots of files would have their accounts disabled/closed or their files deleted. Anyone else remember this? More importantly, anyone remember where? Lx45803 (talk) 18:03, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Their terms of use clearly state that abuse will not be tolerated. So of course, the yahoo counterpart of GmailFS will probably never exist. I think most of you are confusing "Unlimited" with "Infinite", which of course are 2 different things. I mean, using the restaurant analogy, you can pay the nominal fee and start loading a truck with food from the buffet, just because there are unlimited servings. Read Chetblong's link. --Baka toroi (talk) 18:14, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Unlimited means that they wont limit how much storage a person uses (unlimited can be subjective, as most people will only have firsts, seconds, and then desert in a all you can eat buffet)), and while they most certainly do have limits, they have not reached them yet. Atomic1fire (talk) 23:08, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

The allowed storage capacity CAN actually be unlimited. However due to other constraints this does not mean you can store an infinite amount of data right away. For example, if there is a limit of 10000 emails that you are allowed to store per month with a maximum size of 30MB, this means your mailbox can only grow with 300G per month before you exceed the fair use policy. Assuming that not too many people do this yahoo just needs to extend it's total storage capacity a little bit due to this each month. They will easily manage this as long as other people behave less extreme and therefore the storage capacity will never be a binding constraint. Hence, the capacity can be called unlimited while it simultaneously is not possible to fill infinite storage within a limited amount of time. Having said all this, I wonder whether anyone has actually met problems which seem to imply some kind of storage limit? MathEtc (talk)

There is SMTP on free accounts
The article sais "POP3 support and Mail Forwarding facility in some countries (but not in the US). However, SMTP support requires upgrade to a Plus account". I just tried it and I can send mail with my yahoo.ca address using smtp.mail.yahoo.ca

After you login, click on Options > Pop Access and Forwording > View POP Settings. This will ultimately lead you to this link: http://popfwd.mail.yahoo.com/pf/PopConfig (you have to be logged in to see it). The page has information on how to set up your client. These are the settings:

Incoming Mail Server (POP3): pop.mail.yahoo.ca

Use SSL, port: 995

Outgoing Mail Server (SMTP): smtp.mail.yahoo.ca

Use SSL, port: 465, use authentication

Account Name/Username: example@yahoo.ca

Email address: example@yahoo.ca

Password: Your Yahoo! Canada Mail password

I am editing the article to change this. Graster (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 12:42, 13 October 2008 (UTC).
 * No such page--128.119.39.171 (talk) 23:22, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

New version of the Default interface of Yahoo Mail
i just checked my yahoo mail account and noticed that the Yahoo Mail default interface (the interface i was using) has changed since earlier today, they gave the Yahoo Mail Default an facelift with a new bigger font and other things can anyone else using the defaut interface confirm and add the info. --Boutitbenza 69 9 (talk) 04:54, 9 September 2009 (UTC) Confirmed. This needs to be added to the article 74.92.164.133 (talk) 19:22, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Text ads in email footer
The article says "Advertising is displayed on the screen while working with the e-mail account, but text ads are not within the emails themselves, and they are no longer added to the footer of outgoing messages." but text ads are still added to the footer for my outgoing messages. Is this maybe different region by region? (I'm in Australia) GK1 (talk) 03:46, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

New Purple Logo
Yahoo! has changed all the logos of its services to purple now. Nothing remains red anymore. New pictures should be uploaded with the purple logo instead on this article as well as the Yahoo! Maps article and others... --80.41.20.46 (talk) 17:20, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

toolbar with yahoo information on it
If I could find the toolbar with all the yahoo information on it.

toolbar with all the yahoo information on it... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.177.68.248 (talk) 14:52, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Yahoo Facebook and Mail blocking
Yahoo now displays facebook news feed for connected users right in the yahoo inbox. Also due to this deal with facebook they are illegally blocking all emails from the competitor millat facebook. All emails from them end in a black hole. (www.millatfacebook.com) I would like someone to add this info for me as i cant and i fear that i will mess up. Abdunnoor Patankar (talk) 07:20, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Failure to sync Yahoo mail with Blackberry
There is no mention in this article of Yahoo mail no longer syncing with users' Blackberry handhelds, which began occurring in June 2010. Here is a link to current discussion forums at Research In Motion's Blackberry support forums. As of this discussion it is not possible to use two-way synchronization, meaning that deleting an e-mail from one's Yahoo account via computer no longer deletes the same e-mail from one's Blackberry. The result is that you have to delete the same e-mail twice - once from the Yahoo account and then again from your Blackberry. RIM, the manufacturer of Blackberry, has stated on the forums that the problem is on Yahoo's side. Yahoo states they are working to resolve the problem and expect a solution by end of July 2010. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.242.22.78 (talk) 15:18, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

gmail conversation interference
i am removing the "citation needed" tag after the thing about how yahoo mail messes up gmail conversations because it uses nonstandard parameters. anyone who had an email conversation in gmail with someone with a yahoo account can see how the message gets skrewy. you dont need a citation for that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kotatsuken (talk • contribs) 12:46, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

On this issue...should it really be under "controversy"? It doesn't seem very controversial to me. Maybe it could go under a 'technical bugs' section or something. --krysjez (talk) 08:18, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Yahoo! Mail uses the "In-Reply-To" header. If Gmail cannot filter the emails properly, you can't really blame Yahoo! for that. I suggest to take this part out completely 24.132.188.239 (talk) 11:13, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Yahoo Revamps Mail Service
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704505804575484053363751286.html Ottawahitech (talk) 17:24, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Endorsement?
In section "Free IMAP and SMTPs access" the following line "A commercial software package that accomplishes this is called 'Yahoo IMAP Connector',[25] available here." strikes me as advertising or and endorsement by wikipedia. The line has a direct link to the software website not a link to a wiki article. Should it be removed or altered? --Mithrang (talk) 01:43, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

E-mail Domains
The table of email domains includes these entries:


 * Belgium (French) 	yahoo.be/fr
 * Belgium (Dutch) 	yahoo.be/nl

I think they should be deleted because they are NOT email domains. The term "email domain" implies that it can be used in an email address such as "userid@email_domain". The two Belgium entries cannot.

In fact, my quick research shows that Yahoo! doesn't even have a Belgium website. ProResearcher (talk) 02:40, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

There are a lot of country domains, some have mail, such as yahoo.co.jp. Just reported spam to that domain, as that one is commonly used as of late for the sending of Nigerian Advance Fee Scams, or '419' emails.

NNFMP
NNFMP redirects here, but it is not mentioned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.81.140.128 (talk) 01:34, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Warning: There are some anti-spam systems that examine the "with" protocol specified on a "Received:" header and if the field does not match the list of valid protocols registered with the IANA, the message may be rejected or scored toward spaminess. NNFMP is not on IANA's list, nor does it appear in any RFC or other Internet standards document. 71.106.210.121 (talk) 08:24, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

ymail and rocketmail
Yahoo Mail vice president John Kremer on June 19, 2008 announced the tripling of the size of its free online email service with the launching of 2 domains as options for its 266 million users of "@yahoo.com" addresses: the new, simpler e-mail addresses ending in ymail.com and rocketmail.com ("@ymail.com" and "@rocketmail.com" at http://mail.yahoo.com). These 2 choices would give email users better chances, being burdened with addresses such as "CutiePie4ever80" or "Mary2455." Rocketmail has a "hip retro feel" since it is a resurrected email address of a 1997 Yahoo.afp.google.com/article, Yahoo delivers new free email addresses E-mail under the ymail and rocketmail will offer all the same features as the Yahoo domain, with an unlimited amount of storage capacity, with ability to instant message from within their e-mail inbox and spam and virus protection.news24.com, Yahoo offers ymail, rocketmailuk.reuters.com, Yahoo introduces two new e-mail address domains--Florentino floro (talk) 07:37, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

The Rocketmail domain had been dormant for around five or six years, as it had been started around 2007 by the now defunct (purchased by Yahoo) 411.com, and was the second big freemail provider in that time to go to the web behind the start of Hotmail in 1996. It was shuttered in favor of Yahoo.com mail domains in the early 2000s. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.23.141.249 (talk) 00:23, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Rejection of emailed spam reports, beginning April 2011
I put in the portion about Yahoo's starting to reject emailed reports of spam, after receiving some messages back saying they no longer took emailed reports of spam mail. In conversations with Yahoo customer service personnel they seemed to not fully grasp the importance of this, as they claimed their standard was better than what is in the Requests for Comments governing abuse and spam reporting and required email addresses and requirements for those email addresses. The standard is 'abuse at example.com' for every domain that has an MX record and/or mail exchanger. This is required by the 'Invariants' clause in RFC 2142. There is presently discussion of this unfortunate decision going on in the anti-spam community as of the posting of this talk page section here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.23.141.249 (talk) 00:32, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Captchas, and problems with them.
From user experience.

After Yahoo got the Captcha technology from Carnegie Mellon University, problems surfaced for a few users, including excessive display of Captcha images, obscene words or letter strings that looked like obscene words or phrases such as the 'AH FFKK' display in one Captcha that I saw. Yahoo and CMU did take action, so in the years since this occurred, the problem has never reoccurred with obscenity.

As to the appearance of Captchas themselves, they only appear for some people when trying to report spam both to outside providers and to Yahoo given that Yahoo doesn't read spam reports from a clickable report button like Gmail supposedly does, and users who have had this issue have reported no disposition of the issue when raised with Yahoo Mail itself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.57.84.205 (talk) 21:59, 18 February 2009 (UTC)


 * In my opinion you have to be looking for obscenity to see it in "AH FFKK". It is just a random string of letters. I don't see what they should be expected to do except make sure they are not in the dictionary. How would you suggest they filter things like "FKMA AS"? They can't predict how people will try to string sounds together from combinations which are unpronounceable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.153.117.118 (talk) 22:03, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

I do agree partly on this, as yes, you can make something good or bad from anything. Take for example an urban legend in Utah regarding the original name of a building on the BYU Campus. It said that the building was to be known as the 'Faculty and Research Tower' and you guessed it, the acronym (BYU uses them a lot) would have been 'FART'. Well, allegedly someone spotted this, so it was back to the drawing boards supposedly, and the name was then decided on to be the 'Spencer W. Kimball Tower', with the acronym SWKT.

But the AH FFKK is more than obvious to many, and you may still disagree on the rest, or even that, and that is how I was able to get CMU to work through being sure that obvious things that actually spelled words or were very near enough to be considered such in shortened or altered forms would be filtered out instead of put up when you got a captcha. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.23.141.249 (talk) 00:39, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Forwarding As Attachment
There should be mention about how the Forwarding As Attachment function no longer works in the "New" Yahoo Mail (a.k.a. released beta). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.191.142.169 (talk) 15:07, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

IMAP access
Sorry for reverting without any discussion. My main problem with the Yahoo Mail section was that I was actually able to log in without using any ID command, so when I read the rest of the paragraph I felt it was misleading and at least needed updating.

I found a Bugzilla thread that supported this and added it. However if people don’t agree that this is is the whole story, perhaps we can just word it something like “Some people [refer to them] have been able to use it without the special ID command or special programs”? References: Bijan’s crasseux page and Thunderbird forum thread, Outlook forum thread, Ameir’s blog, Holden’s blog, Mozilla Bugzilla entry. Vadmium (talk) 05:21, 29 July 2011 (UTC).

So I reworded it so it says there are reports of it both working and not working, and left the Bravura link there. Is that any better? Vadmium (talk) 10:51, 2 August 2011 (UTC).

On the Bugzilla thread that you mention, a company representative from Yahoo! (specifically the Yahoo Mail program manager) clearly states that they do not support accessing Yahoo Mail through IMAP on the desktop. From the https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=493064 bug:

Hi all,

I'm the PM for the Yahoo! Mail Platform and I wanted to drop a note on this thread (which David Ascher pointed me to). Yahoo is working with Mozilla to bring IMAP access to Thunderbird but we are not prepared for this currently. We will not support users that access IMAP from the desktop today. This being said we are actively pursuing an open IMAP solution and have started by piloting for mobile.

Thanks much Herbert — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cerberus099 (talk • contribs) 03:31, 28 August 2011 (UTC)


 * I have no big problems with saying Yahoo supports IMAP use from mobiles but not from desktops, although a better source than the Bugzilla post would be nice. (All I could find was what is implied by http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail#imap.)
 * My only real problem is the accuracy of the claim that “the servers deny login unless the client provides a specific IMAP user agent identification command” (as it currently reads). I thought the Bugzilla thread would be reasonable evidence that this was not always the case, and I have tried to reword it to say so. Do you have a problem with that change in particular, or just something else that I was changing at the same time? Vadmium (talk) 06:39, 28 August 2011 (UTC).

Yahoo Beta (2011)
There is no information about the current yahoo beta or a future release section. I put the question mark after 2011 because i dont know if the beta was first release in 2010 or 2011.

this is my first time so hopefully wikipedia policy was followed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.82.49.65 (talk) 00:20, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
 * It is very difficult to add anything to any Wikipedia articles that have to do with Yahoo! because few publications are interested in it, write about it, or even understand the issuesOttawahitech (talk) 17:15, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Much of the the critical assertions currently added to the Yahoo 2011 section are flatly erroneous and unsupported by citations. From my personal testing of the asserted bugs, it's slander. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leehenderson (talk • contribs) 14:25, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

2011 Problem
I'm trying to go to the 2011 version, but it says it's not ready yet! HELP!! Welcome to the Darksyde! (talk) 18:41, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

2012 market share
Not a scientific poll, but it does have tens of thousands of responses. The question was "Which email service do you most often use?" (as opposed to number of users or accounts), and Yahoo was 3rd with 20%. The site has previously polled their users on geographic location, age, language and gender, among other things, which suggests that this is probably an accurate market share for 14 to 30-year-old North American males. Esn (talk) 20:08, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Mail deletion policy
I was surprised to find last night that all my mail and contacts from the past 13 years had been deleted because I had not logged in for four months. Further, to avoid this happening again, Yahoo insists on an upgrade to a paid service. Does anyone know when this policy was set up, and whether it's worth mentioning in the article? --Crgn (talk) 11:52, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Please add information to the article about how often you really must check free yahoo mail to avoid having your whole history of old emails deleted. Thank you. -96.233.17.252 (talk) 19:50, 30 September 2012 (UTC)