Talk:Yang Manchun

Recent edits by anonymous users

 * "Tang Taizong did suffer an arrow injury, but not to the eye. If anyone suffered it to the eye, they surely would be dead! Li shimin would never do what the source claimed to present a gift." Prove it.
 * "the original source given was biased as anyone can go check the original link. It's glaring to see that the site says the source is BIASED against China." Give another NPOV source, then.
 * "I swear those losses were all mutiplied by 10X. According to Zhizhi Tongjian, Tang Taizong sent out 100,000 and had losses 10,000-20,000." Prove what you swear.

When you bring up an argument, you prove it. It doesn't matter if the previous edition did not have any citations, etc. If some editors favor the version prior to your edits, then you prove what you claim. (Wikimachine 03:47, 8 March 2007 (UTC))


 * That is not actually correct. The burden of proof is always upon the editor wishing to keep the information in the article.  See WP:V et al.  Cheers, -- Visviva 07:25, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Then I have a question about that interpretation. How practical is it to put burden of proof on the editors wishing to keep the previous edition of the article in place when about 99.9% (probably) of all articles have nearly 0 citation? In a theoretical case where some POV editors conspire (whether sock puppets or organized) to overturn a set of related articles that might not have citations, it is humanly impossible to keep up the demands. Editors can use that interpretation to argue for deletion of certain articles, removal of materials, etc. Just like this one. Not until the users advocating the newer version of the article prove their hypotheses, the burden of proof does not rest on the editors advocating a previous position.
 * By the way, could you fix the Wikiproject collaboration of the month logo? Thanks. (Wikimachine 16:01, 8 March 2007 (UTC))