Talk:Ye Shengtao

Headline text
Hi, everybody Could everyone add ur information with the translation of Chinese terms, pinyin and the original book name, and use the format as follows?

For instance ,

“Enlightened Youth” ("Kaiming Shaonian" 《開明少年》)

“Enlightened Youth” (<--translated English name)(Kaiming Shaonian(Pinyin) 《開明少年》(book name))

This can standarize the format and make this page more reader-friendly Thank you for ur cooperation :)

resizing the photo
Hi all,

I added the photo of young Ye. However, i have technical difficulty in resizing the photo into a smaller one(coz it will look better, i don't want it to be larger than the first photo on top). I would be grateful if anyone can help! Besides, i find that we have 3 headlines that are about' contributions' But i cant see any clear cut between them. In brief, there is no particular direction within the same part and things look like being randomly put in~i think we have to solve this out~--0101LAIyl 14:46, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Let's have a discussion
Hi all, LAIyl, maybe I can help you to resize the photo later:)

By the way, can you receive my e-mail? I'd talked sth about the content and the format, and I am trying to contact with other groupmates .Yes, we should have a clear direction. And I found that info here are overlapped.We should have a balance of every aspects.

BTW, could somebody who'd wriiten something about the literature supplement the original Chinese name and Pinyin for refernce? Thank you very much.

0101LAIsm

Concerning the style of writing and content to be included
Hi all,

Thx LAIsm for resizing the pic! My opinion is that there are too many'contributions'.I think the first one can be deleted. Besides, we have to distinguish 'contribution to literature' from ' contribution to Journalism ' I believe that literature is something more about the style of writing of Ye, say he was an writer of realism(which is already included) and then how his style affected others and their writing in contemporary literature..etc..

As for ' journalism', it may refer to his published work. But we have to be very careful when we catagarize items like his effort in language education, coz it may have contributed to both! Moreover, i think the writing style can have some changes. Now the content under 'literature' is just like commenting on/praising the writing of Ye, not really telling ppl his contribution.

What do u all think? --0101LAIyl 16:37, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)

a little trouble......
sorry that i ve got a little trouble when i wrote the last two entries. after i ve finished and save it, i found that i havnt logged in...........the two entries of "147.8.235.61" was actually me and i ve edited them again after i ve logged in. sorry for the this....

Focus more on Mr. Ye 's journalist work
Hello everybody, As I find that we'd added too much information about Mr Ye's contribution to education and literature, yet his journalist work should not be ignore, can everyone help to find more information about this? (Remember Mr Ye is a famous publisher.)

I also agree that for the "literature" part, there are comment on his writing, this paragraph sound like appreciation. I suggest this part should be shorten, or add a sub-title to state how these writings are significant to his literacy work/ influence on readers/Chinese society or the world.etc.

Let's have a division of labour here:)

0101LAIsm 15:50, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Ye as a journalist
HI everyone

it seems that little information has been added for Ye's contribution to journalism. perhaps we could focus on this aspect.

cheers 0101CHANkyh

wade-giles for ye's name
hi all

i'd just like to add that, as taught in a lecture, wade-giles system is of certain importance if the age and background of the audience is unknown. It's because some, most of whom are of rather old age groups, have learnt the wade-giles system only.

that's why i've added it for Ye's name.

of course, any of us are the most welcome to make other suggestions.

thanks

0101CHANkyh

Proofreading
Hi all, Could anyone help proofread and double-check the newly-added information, in particular to "The May 30th Movement"? This part is very important, as it's highly related to Mr Ye's journalist work.

Also, it's time for us to standarize our layout and style here, pls edit the names in coherent style, to make it more readable :)

Work hard~ 0101LAIsm 18:14, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)0101LAIsm

Please add the external links here
Hi add, We should add some extra reference and provide the external links here.Could you add the link of websites relating to Mr Ye? Or could you suggest some reference materials like books or journal (please also provide the author, book name, publisher and the year of publishing).

Thank you very much!

0101LAIsm 10:35, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Great changes
Hi guys,

I have changed 'the influences in society' to 'ideologies'and rearranged the order. Pls feel free to give any opinions.BTW, i think we may have to rethink how we are going to present the information. Remain the same or make some changes? Having 'contribution to journalism' and ' contribution to literature' seem to be quite repetitive. Can we present ye's contribution in a better way?--0101LAIyl 19:19, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Ye's name
I think having the 'box' of Ye's pronunciation isn't a bad idea. It's probably clear-er than writing down the pin-yin and all that in the same paragraph. I mean, if i didn't understand any chinese, i would probably find it hard to understand what all those names and pronunciations are all about!

all in all, i suggest keeping the little box of pronunciation guide.

cheers 0101CHANkyh

will new stuff be ok?
hi all

sorry for gathering info so late but i've got some readings about Ye which are likely to be helpful for the article.

as Prof Chan points out that we should have reached the editing stage instead of putting new stuff in, will it be ok if i add some info tomorrow?

cheers 0101CHANkyh

More information
As we are lack of info in certain aspects, you're welcome to add info here.And we will help you edit it as soon as possible. Thank you for ur contribution:) 0101LAIsm 16:19, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Back to top Button and Pinyin
hey guys, i added several "back to top" buttons on the page, just try it on. and also i modified all Pinyins on the page....it;s really a difficult work for my eyes... only 4 days left..."add oil"!! p*.*q

0101ZHANGy

Good progress
hey guys, impressive work in the past few days... especially the bibliography list and external links. keep on editing, rewriting, editing, editing, editing. long is not always better. (JMSC0101 TA - Li) Lfcho 15:05, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Helo, I am 0101LAIoy
I got the problem after editing "the contribution to Journalism ". I am sorry that I erase the underline and the bold word of the previous person, (it seems LAIsm). and i got the technical problem that I dont know how to bold the word ...Can anyone help me?

Problem fixed
LAIoy, the problem was fixed, see if there is other problems :)

Dear groupmates, as tutor said "long is not always better", it's time for us to shorten the paragraph, make them more concise. We still have 2 days to go, Work Hard!

User:0101LAIsm 18:47, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)

grammar and pinyin
i've made some grammatical changes.

though i'm not sure which if 'through his wholelife' and 'throughout his years of life' mean exactly the same thing, i have changed in for simplicity.

btw, do you guys think the tone marks of the pinyin are necessary? i have browsed quite a number of official sites of the mainland government's and i find that none of them note the tone marks on any words!

one more question, why is one of the picture a celebrity?

add oil~ 0101CHANkyh

Deleted information
I find that in the bibliography, there are publications which are not written by Mr Ye, just others' works, like "Ye Shengtao chuan lun" 《葉聖陶傳論》 1995 "Ye Shengtao ri ji" 《葉聖陶日記》1997 "Ye Shengtao yan jiu zi liao" 《葉聖陶研究資料》 1988 ,they seem like the reference book written by other authors, not Mr Ye himself. And "Novel Monthly"《小說月報》(1910-1932) has been included in the part of "publications", so I deleted them. If necessary, pls add them into "More materials about Mr Ye", those are the reference materials relating to Mr Ye, yet they are written by others. Sorry for inconvenience and Thank you for your contribution. 0101LAIsm 17:55, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)

urgent! what's that citation?
Hi, I saw a citation under ideologies. I don't quite understand what it is?What's the source? Is it said by Ye? Could the contributor give a more detailed citation? thx--0101LAIyl 17:55, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Attention Please
Someone who'd added some info here please also supplement the English translation and pinyin here as soon as possible. Thank you very much. 0101LAIsm 06:33, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Beware of Overlapping
Hi all, I discovered that there are too many overlapping, esp for the newly-added information. I'd tried to categorize them into related aspects and deleted some repeated information. Actucally it's time for us to re-write sentence and do some proofreading, as we are lack of time to add and edit additional info now.Sorry about that. Really thank you for your contribution. "We'd already tried our best, we have no regrets"=P Well done~groupmates 0101LAIsm 08:54, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)

pinyin
There's sth wrong with the pinyin. I see some of them become a square instead of a pinyin. Do u all see the same thing? We have to work together to change them!--0101LAIyl 13:57, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Deadline is coming!
LAIyL, I see no problem in pinyin. Maybe it is beacause the coding of ur window is different. Dear groupmates, We must do our best till last minute! Our Goal is approaching! keep on!

Please help standarize the format now~!

0101LAIsm 15:04, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)

thanks
Thanks LAIsm, I was just afraid that if there was really sth wrong with the pinyin.Thanks for yr reply or i may do some stupid changes. I will check the format. Cheez!--0101LAIyl 15:31, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)

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