Talk:Yellow Fleet

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The book to answer all questions about the Yellow Fleet (masters, cargoes) and its stamps is named Great Bitter Lake Association - MS Lednice 1967/75 - Stamp Catalogue, https://valdpete.blogspot.com/p/great-bitter-lake-association-catalogue.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:AB04:1BB:BD00:C893:C87F:FF87:3E1B (talk) 15:22, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Yellow fleet
As I myself was on duty on the Ms Killara in 1973 I can state that there were no 14 ships stranded over there but 15....!!! The one forgotten is the MS African Glenn whitch was partially sunk by the Israëlis. I think this vessel was originally an USA-vessel. I myself was onboard this ship and declared this vessel to be Belgian bij hanging a Belgian flag on it (International waters......). I have some foto's of the African Glenn and of this event.

Greetings

Pierre Ven Seringenlaan 10 2900 Schoten Belgium Tel: 00 32 36582304 Email: pven@scarlet.be

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.11.221.37 (talk • contribs) 09:31, November 24, 2007

15 (not 14) ships. Not literally stranded.
Chapter: Trapped

citation: "In June 1967 the fourteen ships were sailing northwards."

What about the 15th ship (the one forgotten can be African Glenn (see discussion) or Observer)? Forgotten to take into account? Sailed southwards?

After http://web.me.com/myronpm/Topics/html/gbla.htm SA TT "Observer" was anchored in Lake Timsah, "Ship and crew were not Part of the Great Bitter Lake Association." As separated from the other 14 ships, which stayed in the Great Bitter Lake.

As (most of) the ships were not literally "stranded" (=set stand-still on sandy ground) use of this word "stranded" should better be only made, if it is clearly said in the next sentence, that (most of?) the ships anchored. --Helium4 (talk) 20:42, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Bad link
the http://www.merchantnavyofficers.com/BF65.html link simply redirects to www.oz-coupons.com. just a note.18:17, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Information about MS Essayons
MS Essayons was owned by "Messageries Maritimes" under the name "SINDH" when it was stranded in 1967. Information about the ship, cargo and the event can be found here (in French):

http://www.messageries-maritimes.org/sindhB2.html

The ship was sold three times while being stranded. First to a Greek company, then to a Norwegian company and finally to a company from Saudi Arabia. It was in fact renamed to BADR before its release. Information can be found here (in Norwegian):

https://skipshistorie.net/Oslo/OSL307BjarneRuudPedersen/Tekster/OSL30719700100000%20ESSAYONS.htm

Yes, I happen to speak both French and Norwegian. I would be happy to edit the article, but, alas, that does not seem to be possible.

Extended-confirmed edit request on 24 March 2021
Please fill in the table of stranded ships with information about MS Essayons in the row for that ship.

In the column for owner:

Messageries Maritimes, France (1956-1970), Grecomar Shipping Agency Ltd, Greece (1970), I/S Essayons (Bjarne Ruud Pedersen), Norway (1970-1974), Alsayed Abdallah Mohammed Baroom, Saudi Arabia (1974-1981)

In the column for cargo: Rubber, rice, tea, refrigerated shrimp (40 tonnes) from Saigon. Latex from Preah Sihanouk, Cambodia. Teak boards from Singapore.

Coleslaw66 (talk) 13:59, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:46, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Article's ENGVAR
Since this article's subject relates to Egypt, would it not be better to use British English ENGVAR for this article? Regards, DesertPipeline (talk) 13:59, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 26 March 2021
Please remove

fifteen ships (from eight countries) were trapped

and add

fifteen ships from eight countries were trapped

The parentheses just aren't needed. 64.203.186.88 (talk) 18:08, 26 March 2021 (UTC)


 * What about commas, for that subordinate clause, otherwise it might mean 15 x 8 = 120 ships? Maybe "fifteen ships, from eight different countries, were trapped"? Martinevans123 (talk) 18:14, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
 * You're right. What about removing the countries entirely?  "fifteen ships from around the world"  Otherwise go with the commas.  64.203.186.88 (talk) 19:41, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ Ok. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:26, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Locked
Why is the article locked?
 * Indeed. I wanted to add that the Münsterland was also carrying wool, aluminium and canned food (according to this documentary: https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/nl/2021/03/29/suezkanaal-terloops-1974/ ). But I can't add it since the page is locked. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.193.6.149 (talk) 19:05, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

I too saw that article by VRT and wanted to update the page, the cargo carried by the Münsterland according to the interview with the quality expert was wool, vellum, various metals of which steel coils and aluminum sheets, and canned foods. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.116.31.145 (talk) 10:41, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Can you tell us exactly what you want changed? (Change X to Y; Add X in part Y....)—blindlynx (talk) 14:47, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

details for table
hello there is a good reliable source with more information on what was on the ships in relation to cargo of Australian apples and pears.

suggest these changes to table against the names of these ships:

‘Scottish Star’ = 182,000 cases of apples and 42,000 cases of pears from Australia

‘Port Invercargill’ = 103,000 cases of apples and 39,000 cases of pears from Australia

‘Munster Mand’ = 13,000 cases of pears from Australia

Killara’ has 21,000 cases of apples and 7,000 cases of pears from Australia

relevant paragraph from source"

"...Nearly 200,000 cases are from Tasmania. The ‘Scottish Star’ has 182,000 cases of apples and 42,000 cases of pears from northern Tasmania, Adelaide, Albany and Fremantle. The ‘Port Invercargill’ has 103,000 cases of apples and 39,000 cases of pears from Port Huon in Tasmania and Melbourne. The ‘Munster Mand’ has 13,000 cases of pears from Melbourne. The Killara’ has 21,000 cases of apples and 7,000 cases of pears, mainly from mainland ports..."

Source (under the heading LOSSES BY AUSTRALIAN FRUIT GROWERS: http://historichansard.net/hofreps/1967/19671017_reps_26_hor57/#debate-22 2000RK (talk) 14:35, 28 December 2022 (UTC)