Talk:Yersinia pestis

Symptoms
It would be useful to have some infomation on the symptoms Cxbdi 17:30, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree. I have found one half dozen specimens of the Northern rat flea, (Nosopsyllus faciatus), which currently has no information on Wiki, OR, Oriental rat flea, Xenopsylla cheopsis on my short haired dog, and have received several bites from them after they set up housekeeping under my waterbed mattress.  On the suggestion of a chemist friend, I preserved the last of these in 50% alcohol, with the intention of contacting public health authorities, which, in my area, are financially-challenged.  I am also considering taking the specimen to my veterinarian, who is aware of my current cash-flow difficulties, and MAY simply examine it with a microscope, identify it, and advise whether I need to worry about Yersinia pestis.  In the meantime, any information about incubation period and symptoms would be helpful.  J.D.Schultz, RN BA--W8IMP 12:07, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Information on symptoms? Sure, just add a link Plague at the bottom of the article, the entire symptoms and pathology should be explained in the article about the DISEASE not about the MICROORGANISM! 99.236.221.124 (talk) 21:17, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

History section Controversy
The controversy as to whether the great plagues were caused by Yersinia pestis following Samuel K. Cohn (2003) work deserves more attention, I think. Well, I was fascinated. This article emphasizes209.249.13.157 (talk) 14:20, 13 April 2023 (UTC) the evidence against Cohn's assertions. Aside from the historical interest, if the historical black plagues were not Yersinia pestis then, I guess, the virus could mutate and return? A controversy article might be a good idea. --Timtak (talk) 05:18, 14 January 2008 (UTC)


 * No it doesn't. Later research reports in 2010 and 2011 confirm 'beyond a shadow of a doubt' that Y.pestis caused the historical black plague. --71.214.223.139 (talk) 01:13, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

NCIS tv episode trivia
Trivia: Don't know if you want the info but this disease was featured in an episode of NCIS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NCIS_episodes  episode SWAK 2.22  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.85.107.161 (talk) 22:18, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

THIS IS NOT AN ARTICLE ON THE PLAGUE BUT ON THE MICROORGANISM
Stop turning the pathogenicity section into a something larger than the actual article on the bacteria. Yes, it's a pathogen, we know. Leave links to diseases it causes at the bottom and a list diseases it causes in a SHORT pathogenicity section, not a huge section that overshadows important information (which isn't even posted). I've yet to see a good bacteria related article on wiki99.236.221.124 (talk) 17:12, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Delta 32 Variation
I recall some documentary about half a dozen years ago which said that people who have the Delta 32 variation in their genetic code don't get the bubonic plague and also don't get AIDS, because the mechanisms of these two diseases are similar. That's why some people didn't die of the Black Death, despite being surronded by plague victims. Can anybody out there clarify this or add to it?63.198.18.137 (talk) 11:12, 17 February 2010 (UTC)Sgt. Rock

PREVENTION
In reading the articles on this subject, which was promted by a most popular headline news of a man who was in criticle condition "BING", it amazes me the amount of research being conducted in the last 759 years, but not one article on prevention. The general prevention from the noted cause would be cleansiness of environment, proper disposal of waste, biological and chemical, and overall personal and physical hygiene and health. Generally it makes sense that desease and illness is caused by the breakdown of the immune system, which is caused by poor diet,contaminated (biological or chemical) food, water, soil or air, poor living conditions, overcrowded spaces( neighborhoods and cities, poor circulation of air and improper sanitation,little water for personal hygiene and overall deterioration of the will of man to live from oppressive entitities whatever they may be at that time.

Then one asks themselves, what is the cause of the above conditions resulting in such a deplorable epidemic. Who controls the population and determines the class structure, the economic status of the population, which produces, poor living conditions, poor or limited water for proper hygience and cleansiness of a living environment, poor disposal of sanitation, starvation and overall mass poverty of the general population. Who is responsible for this? Determining the true cause is the very essence of the method of PREVENTION.

As far a medical treatment, if an epidemic does accur, then the FDA better get back on track and have an antidote available and at an affordable cost. At the present time most are not affordable $10 - $15.00 for somebody earning $8.00 an hour in 2012 after taxes and not covered by insurance.

Reference: Common Sense. If the same thing occurs within 759 years in mass epidemics under the same conditions, then prevention is deamed by the cause itself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.59.195.23 (talk) 15:27, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Flea transmission
I have a problem when I read the article; My problem is that under Pathogens and immunity it seems to say if I touch (the skin of) a house mouse (that is infected with Yersinia Pestis) then I can catch it. I can then transmit it to people I work with by shaking hands (direct contact with infected tissue).

This would explain a rapid spread of the disease.

However it means the rat flea is irrelevant as a vector with regards to human transmission as I am much more likely to come in contact with a house mouse or for that matter rat than ever to be bitten by a rat flea.

Is this true? 92.27.67.129 (talk) 11:55, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

Missing Info In Classification
Under the "Scientific Classififcation" part it is missing both the order (Enterobacteriales) and the family (Enterobacteriaceae). I can't get the edit to stay, so could someone else change it please? MarkoPolo56 (talk) 14:35, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

No Histologic Picture about Bipolar Cells
I have pictures which do not exist in Internet, but I do not know their source. I think it is from my University. I think this means that I cannot share it here, although it would answer the demand. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SaminTietokirja (talk • contribs) 11:28, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Morphology
Can a bacteria be a "rod shaped coccobacilli" wouldn't coccobacilli cover the morphology? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.15.221.191 (talk) 01:26, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Genealogy of the bacteria and the plague it caused pushed back 3,000 years, not spread by fleas back then.
The study, published in Cell (open access article): http://www.cell.com/cell/abstract/S0092-8674%2815%2901322-7

A batch of reliable sources covering these new discoveries (Bing search): http://www.bing.com/search?q=Bronze+Age+plague&filters=tnTID%3a%226F07D3F0-1748-4639-AEB1-FC8E3CDF828F%22+tnVersion%3a%221128051%22+segment%3a%22popularnow.carousel%22+tnCol%3a%2222%22+tnOrder%3a%229da0f099-a830-40a1-b8b5-f4338c5d4ff2%22&FORM=BSPN01&crslsl=3091&efirst=20

IBT quote: "The Plague of Athens that devastated Ancient Greece in 430BC and the Antonine Plague that killed an estimated five million people in the Roman Empire may well have been caused by, well, the plague." http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/plague-athens-caused-by-plague-evidence-shows-infections-bronze-age-humans-1525231

Very interesting. Thank you and all the best, Wordreader (talk) 16:53, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

Assessment comment
Substituted at 11:03, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Citation #33 has been retracted
Citation 33 has been retracted by the publisher on February 2013 so associated information from that source should be removed.

Link to article showing proof of citations

I have never edited a Wikipedia article before, so I did not want to make the changes myself.

Alaskanwakeboarder (talk) 19:21, 4 September 2017 (UTC)alaskanwakeboarder
 * Please don't be afraid to edit - in the future, please feel free to be WP:BOLD and make changes you see fit. In this case, I think the best thing to do is to simply removed the reference and the claim that it is attached to, which I have just done.  Deli nk (talk) 19:42, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

'Modern Plague'
Not only does the link in the header not lead to an article, but no other relevant article on Wikipedia uses the term 'Modern Plague' in the context that this one does. The CDC does use the term modern plague, but uses it to refer to the outbreak in China in the late 19th century, which the wording of this header identifies as separate. This should certainly be changed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vamanospests (talk • contribs) 22:14, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

What year
This was added (in the intro) 07Apr 2016;
 * Named Pasteurella pestis in the past, the organism was renamed Yersinia pestis in 1944.

Still there. Was changed from 1967; and the article says 1967 later (– was in the article before 2016).

MBG02 (talk) 14:59, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Connection between Great fire of London and Great Plague of London?
There doesn't appear to be any connection between the ending of the Plague and the beginning of the fire and if there is anything that connects the two it should be briefly mentioned in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shahar333 (talk • contribs) 17:54, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

antibiotics
How is it possible to discuss this bacteria in the context of immunity without discussing antibiotics? Not dramatic enough?

In-reservoir hosts
I found some lopsided assertions citing CDC advice on cats becoming infected with Y. Pestis, so I added text (with citation) to a nearly identical section on dogs from the CDC website. It was only after I'd re-read the page that I noticed this info was under the "In-reservoir hosts" instead of "In humans and other susceptible hosts" heading. Dogs and cats are not reservoir hosts, so I'm moving the text to the correct section. &mdash; UncleBubba ( T @ C ) 02:18, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Is 21st century section heading needed? Do Events belong in this article?
There was a section "Recent events" with a mixture of research discoveries and outbreaks, and a section "Ancient DNA evidence". I changed this to "21st century" main heading, "Ancient DNA evidence" and "Events" subheadings, and moved many paragraphs. But I don't think we really need the "21st century" top-level heading; and most of the events belong in the plague article, not this one. In other words, delete the "21st century" top-level heading, and have " Ancient DNA evidence" and possibly "Events" as top-level headings.

I'm not going to make this change, at least for now; others make want to change the article, or at least comment on what should be done. Best wishes, Pol098 (talk) 19:49, 2 August 2021 (UTC)